Playing Summerset made me realise something..

Elderscrollian

That realisation was that Maomer need to be added as a playable race, anyone else agree?

Darios_Heliodromos

I'm hoping that Pyandonea will one day be released as a chapter alongside the ability to create Maomer characters.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Darios_Heliodromos wrote: »

I'm hoping that Pyandonea will one day be released as a chapter alongside the ability to create Maomer characters.

Second this. Unlike a number of other races, there isn't any good reason the Maormer couldn't be playable - they're not extinct or vanished off to some other plane of existence unlike, say, the Limothiit, and unlike the Akaviri nations they interact with Tamriel frequently.

logarifmik

No.

Recremen

They have to get Argonian swim speed bonus, though. It's only fair.

Queenmab

I would love more Maormer content too! I’d love to know why they’re forever attacking the AD territories, hopefully moving them from a one dimensional baddie group to something more nuanced.

Katahdin

Maomer content would be interesting and Id love to explore their lore more, but I can't see how they could do a playable race story wise.

The Maomer have been repeatedly and periodically attacking the aldmeri for generations, now they are just going to forget that and work for the queen (AD story)?

Doesn't make sense.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Katahdin wrote: »

Maomer content would be interesting and Id love to explore their lore more, but I can't see how they could do a playable race story wise.

The Maomer have been repeatedly and periodically attacking the aldmeri for generations, now they are just going to forget that and work for the queen (AD story)?

Doesn't make sense.

Consider, though: how would this make less sense than a Redguard or a Dunmer working for the Dominion? They aren't a race of hive-mind clones, individuals are allowed to break from the norm.

qbit

Yeah but there’s this altmer that’s like “you want to challenge me to a duel?”

And the entire way he said it is just epic funny to me and I think of it every time a random challenges my altmer to a duel.

_Salty_

We have enough elves thanks.

Pendrillion

Darios_Heliodromos wrote: »

I'm hoping that Pyandonea will one day be released as a chapter alongside the ability to create Maomer characters.

And driving around in a damn Ship!

crjs1

I would love a chapter in Pyandonea. It would be great to see more of thier culture, society and point of view.

But I don’t want to see them as playable, there are no Maomer settlements on Tamriel or Maomer populations in any of the Tamrielian realms, it wouldn’t make sense to randomly be one fighting in one of the alliances. We should visit them but not the other way round.

Chicharron

Recremen wrote: »

They have to get Argonian swim speed bonus, though. It's only fair.

Are you crazy? Absolutely not, it's what makes us master race.

They can give them the ability to do stone skipping.

Starlock

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Maomer content would be interesting and Id love to explore their lore more, but I can't see how they could do a playable race story wise.

The Maomer have been repeatedly and periodically attacking the aldmeri for generations, now they are just going to forget that and work for the queen (AD story)?

Doesn't make sense.

Consider, though: how would this make less sense than a Redguard or a Dunmer working for the Dominion? They aren't a race of hive-mind clones, individuals are allowed to break from the norm.

I’d want and need to see a solid lore justification, though. There is no precident (except one quest in Summerset) for Maomer who have anything other than hostile intent. @Katahdin is right that there is currently not viable in lore. Something would need to be added to explain it... and their absence in later eras.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Starlock wrote: »

I’d want and need to see a solid lore justification, though. There is no precident (except one quest in Summerset) for Maomer who have anything other than hostile intent. @Katahdin is right that there is currently not viable in lore. Something would need to be added to explain it... and their absence in later eras.

You mean other than them allying outright with Aldmeri Dominion 2.0? They were perfectly happy to treat with Potema too if the Wolf Queen was anything to go by. And one of the guards in Kynarthi's Roost has a crush on a Khajiit. And there were Maormer in Anvil who, while rude, were not actively invading. Even ignoring all that there's no good reason for them not to ally with the Pact or Covenant against the Dominion - they were perfectly happy to ally with Estre and she's an Altmer!

Starlock

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

I’d want and need to see a solid lore justification, though. There is no precident (except one quest in Summerset) for Maomer who have anything other than hostile intent. @Katahdin is right that there is currently not viable in lore. Something would need to be added to explain it... and their absence in later eras.

You mean other than them allying outright with Aldmeri Dominion 2.0? They were perfectly happy to treat with Potema too if the Wolf Queen was anything to go by. And one of the guards in Kynarthi's Roost has a crush on a Khajiit. And there were Maormer in Anvil who, while rude, were not actively invading. Even ignoring all that there's no good reason for them not to ally with the Pact or Covenant against the Dominion - they were perfectly happy to ally with Estre and she's an Altmer!

Hats off... I have been out-lored. I never would have picked up that single line from that book.

Osteos

I can see them in DC or EP but no way would they fit in AD. The other races fit because of all being part of the Empire. Maomer have been ongoing enemies of the Altmer and those 2 cultures mutually hate each other. There is no way to justify a Maomer player being able to get anywhere near Ayrenn.

Strychnos

Osteos wrote: »

I can see them in DC or EP but no way would they fit in AD. The other races fit because of all being part of the Empire. Maomer have been ongoing enemies of the Altmer and those 2 cultures mutually hate each other. There is no way to justify a Maomer player being able to get anywhere near Ayrenn.

I seen what you and other people are getting at, but Dunmer and Argonians are enemies that belong to the same Pact. If Argonians can team up with their slavers to face a greater threat, why couldn't Maormer partner with the AD to fight off something bigger than their rivalry?

Like maybe... the threat of Daedric incursion? The Triad's been working pretty hard to take over Nirn, and if the Maormer want to conquer Summerset some day it would benefit them to actually have a Summerset left to conquer.

Also, as @WhiteCoatSyndrome mentioned, the Maormer DID ally themselves with the Aldmeri Dominion (even if it was a couple hundred years after the events of ESO).

Nyladreas

Why is everyone so obsessed with playable races... Like geez there's 10 already.

No.

Make an altmer, get a skin that fits maormer, get blind eyes cosmetic, roleplay it.

Iccotak

Nope.

LittlePinkDot

Darios_Heliodromos wrote: »

I'm hoping that Pyandonea will one day be released as a chapter alongside the ability to create Maomer characters.

That would be cool. But the writers would have to find away around the fact that as far as I know, moarmer are hostile to every race. I cant see them just letting outsiders go wherever they like on their islands, especially an altmer.

Tensar

Or would be awewome. Plz add maormer playable

Darios_Heliodromos

The Maomer currently seem bad because we have only ever heard their story told from an Altmeri perspective. I'm sure that they are normal mer with families, loyalties, passions, etc if you would look past the Altmer/Maomer conflict. There are some Sea Elves in Hew's Bane that seem almost friendly.

Besides, after seeing the amazing job that was done on Summerset from an aesthetic point of view, who would not want to explore Pyandonea and meet King Orgnum?

Vizikul

Queenmab wrote: »

I would love more Maormer content too! I’d love to know why they’re forever attacking the AD territories, hopefully moving them from a one dimensional baddie group to something more nuanced.

Actually, you can find this out by playing the Auridon quest line.

The Altmer occupied Summerset and Auridon and edged off their Maormer Brethren into the unlovely Pyandonesan swamps. The Maormer never forgot about this and they are unwilling to forgive them

MLGProPlayer

I just want more Maormer NPCs. There is no reason for there not be Maormer trading ships docked in DC and EP cities. There is also no reason for there not to be Maormer NPCs around Tamriel as traders, adventurers, scholars, etc.

The Imperials are enemies to all the factions in ESO, yet we meet tons of friendly Imperial NPCs in every faction. The Maormer are only really enemies to the Altmer, and even in their lands, you'd expect to find defectors.

Elderscrollian

Nyladreas wrote: »

Why is everyone so obsessed with playable races... Like geez there's 10 already.

No.

Make an altmer, get a skin that fits maormer, get blind eyes cosmetic, roleplay it.

I can answer that for you, and it has to do with this little fundamental feature of the genre we know as MMORPG's and that is the thing called "CHOICE".

There is no such thing as too much choice, only too little.

So if the race were added and you didn't like them you could choose not to make one (see how that works? lol) while those who did, could.

Choice is a wondrous thing

Elderscrollian

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

Darios_Heliodromos wrote: »

I'm hoping that Pyandonea will one day be released as a chapter alongside the ability to create Maomer characters.

That would be cool. But the writers would have to find away around the fact that as far as I know, moarmer are hostile to every race. I cant see them just letting outsiders go wherever they like on their islands, especially an altmer.

Not necessarily.

We already have members of all three factions running aorund adventuring in eahc others zones and storylines without a LORE reason for it...because of the WHY they did it.

And that WHY is a thing called FUN... the very basis of all games.

Lore IS important but only in so much as it can add to a game, it however does not, nor should it EVER define a game. FUN does.

Imperial_Voice

There are very very very few races that could logically be included into ESO as playable races, Maomer are one and I see no issue with including them. Perhaps as a service upgrade similar to Imperials.