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Roleplaying vs Sandboxing

stitchesofdooom
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Okay, so in Fallout 4 (slightly off topic, I know, but there's a point) I have complained in forums about the lack of roleplay and there's always some idiot that tells me that building settlements IS roleplaying.

You're not "roleplaying": you're SANDBOXING.

I see a thread about "roleplaying as a master assassin" and... well, you can't really. There are no assassin options in quests, the dark brotherhood questline is too short and you have to grind "radiants" to get at the proper content.

Stop making your own fun and tell Bethesda/Zenimax etc that you want more proper content. Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood should have proper side quests, not endless "radiant" junk quests. Do not settle for sandboxing when you should be demanding more proper quests.

Now ESO is more true to Elder Scrolls than Fallout 4 and 76 are to Fallout. And the Psijic order "side quests" were an improvement on leveling up TG and DB so Zen seems to have learned, but there needs to be more main and side quests. Espacially with all the money Zen and Beth are raking in.
Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
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Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
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  • idk
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    Bethesda, and really no major MMORPG publisher, will make questing so it will fit every possible RP desire. That is just unreasonable on many levels which should be obvious.

    I think OP sees something where it is not but that is besides the point.

    Serious RP players create their own stories and RP them out with other RP players. This is done similar to table top games and requires players with good imagination just like it is required for good table top RP.
    Really, idk
  • stitchesofdooom
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    I'm talking more about skill checks. You max level DB? Option to intimidate or stab NPC in the face, that sorta thing
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
    PCMR EU.
  • VaranisArano
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    I'm talking more about skill checks. You max level DB? Option to intimidate or stab NPC in the face, that sorta thing

    So something closer to the Fighters And Mages guild Intimidate/Persuade passives?

    That has potential. It would be fun to have unlockable options tied to titles or achievements.

    In Skyrim, when you go to Sovngarde you have the option for dialogue that unlocks based on your factions. You can tell Tsun you are archmage, and he's like "The clever craft is cool!" But if you are like "I'm the Listener" he's like "Ugh, well, I suppose I have to let you fulfill your destiny."

    I may on occasion, have the very strong desire to have my Vestige say something like "Look, Villain of the Week, I defeated Manninarco and Molag Bal. You are small potatoes compared to that. You can surrender now if you like or we can get on with the part where we fight and I kill you, but don't patronize me. I'm the effing Vestige."

    As it is, I totally say that, just in my imagination instead of in game.
    Edited by VaranisArano on September 4, 2018 3:49PM
  • stitchesofdooom
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    I'm talking more about skill checks. You max level DB? Option to intimidate or stab NPC in the face, that sorta thing

    So something closer to the Fighters And Mages guild Intimidate/Persuade passives?

    That has potential. It would be fun to have unlockable options tied to titles or achievements.

    In Skyrim, when you go to Sovngarde you have the option for dialogue that unlocks based on your factions. You can tell Tsun you are archmage, and he's like "The clever craft is cool!" But if you are like "I'm the Listener" he's like "Ugh, well, I suppose I have to let you fulfill your destiny."

    I may on occasion, have the very strong desire to have my Vestige say something like "Look, Villain of the Week, I defeated Manninarco and Molag Bal. You are small potatoes compared to that. You can surrender now if you like or we can get on with the part where we fight and I kill you, but don't patronize me. I'm the effing Vestige."

    As it is, I totally say that, just in my imagination instead of in game.

    yeah. Being that the last Beth/Zen "innovation" was sticking "radiant" junk quests and base building into what should have been an RPG... I think a little positive innovation is called for now. They could do a good innovation if they tried.
    Say NO to Crown Crates. Crown Crates are Loot Boxes. Loot Boxes are gambling. Zenimax makes enough money off us.
    ESO+ is part of the "Games as a service" trend. A trend that needs to die. Subscribe only when you need Crowns for DLC.
    Say no to "radiant" junk quests replacing proper side content and the dumbing down of our favorite franchises.
    PCMR EU.
  • icebladess
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    I use to help run an assassin type guild that did assassin type player run quests. I miss that. Guild fall apart cause someone raided the guild bank. This was before the brotherhood came out.
    Edited by icebladess on October 3, 2018 3:04AM
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