what even is sorc....

  • Valrien
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    Valrien wrote: »

    PvE is a nightblade's world. Sorcs are decent mostly for Skyreach carries and other bits of solo content.

    Honestly I can't think of a single thing that Sorcs are "the best at"...which is really bad because every class should be the best at something.

    that last line... "which is really bad because every class should be the best at something"

    you clearly have no clue what balance means so let me educate you. balance is basically when you don't have everyone playing one thing, like dk tanks in pve, templar healers in pve/pvp, magblades in pve/pvp. if this game was balanced, you would see templars and dk's bombing people in pvp and competing in dps in pve, you would see nb's and sorc healers in pvp and pve. stop pretending you know what you're talking about, because reading your nonsense is just a waste of time and just lowers the intelligence of anyone who thinks it's a fact.

    Is there a reason you put words in his/her mouth? He didn't talked about what you called balance. He simply said that he wants class diversity/identity. While your definition of balance isn't wrong, it's not the topic of his comment. Complete and total utter balance would also bring up the question why we still have classes anyway. The gist of his comments is that NB outperform sorcs in every aspect, which also isn't balanced.

    However, there is no need to allege people of things they never said. Especially if it's in such a rude way. Good first forum post, looking forward to see more of you...

    Basically this. And I guarantee I know more about the game than that guy ever will :P
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    WTB ur MMR rating
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    This is a sorcerer:
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    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
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    first game never vs pre-made


    took me some time to understand that after entering BG with my vma pet build 36 kill xD

    (have vid to prove)
  • Urvoth
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    Solohope wrote: »
    So I recently posted a small clip of me getting my first quadra on my melee magblade and someone reponded with something along the lines of "You would get that on your first game on sorc. " kind of as a joke. However, I took his advice and this was the result...

    (I'm Zolodyk BTW )
    yzpIJIg.jpg


    This was my 5th game on my crafter sorc. Literally every single BG deathmatch I played I did not get less than 15 kills and got 3 quadras in 6 games. Are people seriously complaining about this class being underpowered. [snip]

    Magsorc is a noob killer class. You're going to be playing vs noobs with a low MMR on a new character, hence why you have so many kills.
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 6:52PM
  • Urvoth
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Solohope wrote: »
    So I recently posted a small clip of me getting my first quadra on my melee magblade and someone reponded with something along the lines of "You would get that on your first game on sorc. " kind of as a joke. However, I took his advice and this was the result...

    (I'm Zolodyk BTW )
    yzpIJIg.jpg


    This was my 5th game on my crafter sorc. Literally every single BG deathmatch I played I did not get less than 15 kills and got 3 quadras in 6 games. Are people seriously complaining about this class being underpowered. [snip]

    Yes. Sorc is underpowered. Win a dueling tournament against good NBs & DKS. You barely move an inch. Not by pondering noobs and low bies. Thats why no competitive player is playing sorc now.

    I showed you a clip of a sorc winning a duel tournament and you calmed it was all against noobs. You keep saying sorc is trash and you play nightblade/warden, but later you say you main sorc. Frankly, you are all over the map with your opinion, and have some sort of agenda every time you post. Yes, we understand...everyone is a noob but you. Got it... What happened to you quiting the game and giving up on the forum?

    Here's a guildmate of mine, Despotic. You may have seen his channel. He plays battlegrounds frequently and has a very high MMR. Before everyone screams his score is from stealing kills, no one in this match (except for him, meaning kills were stolen from him) has double digits in assists, meaning he stole very few kills.
    The results speak for themselves.

    https://youtu.be/tRn_Ki7uy8M

    31/0/11....in a high MMR match with little if any kill steals.
    As a sorc myself, all the whining over the class is getting embarrassing. It's like a little kid with a shiny new toy(sorc), but crying because the kid across the street (nightblade) is just a tad more shiny.

    Here's my PvE geared sorc (all divines, no impen, one shield, no rune cage) in a battleground last night.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp

    Sorcs are in a good place. Stop whining because you're not number one. It's damn embarrassing for the rest of us who still can play sorc.
    Or keep stompin your feet like silly spoiled kids...whatever...

    He got hard CC'd like 5 times and a bunch of those players just stood there and let him combo on them. There's absolutely no way that's a high MMR match(unless players are just worse overall on console?). If that were a high MMR match, he'd be getting fossalized or incap'd every 30 seconds or so and everyone would be dodge rolling and blocking his combos. He barely even got snared that match...
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 6:52PM
  • LadyNalcarya
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    It's a low MMR match, it's always like this on chars that havent been in bgs. This is my first match as a magblade for comparison - 2 times more damage and 200k healing:
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    Also got a Merciless title very quickly btw... And I'm pretty bad as a magblade.
    Wait until you fight against players that are experienced enough to cc you and drain your stamina. :)
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on September 2, 2018 10:23PM
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Solohope wrote: »
    So I recently posted a small clip of me getting my first quadra on my melee magblade and someone reponded with something along the lines of "You would get that on your first game on sorc. " kind of as a joke. However, I took his advice and this was the result...

    (I'm Zolodyk BTW )
    yzpIJIg.jpg


    This was my 5th game on my crafter sorc. Literally every single BG deathmatch I played I did not get less than 15 kills and got 3 quadras in 6 games. Are people seriously complaining about this class being underpowered. [snip]

    Yes. Sorc is underpowered. Win a dueling tournament against good NBs & DKS. You barely move an inch. Not by pondering noobs and low bies. Thats why no competitive player is playing sorc now.

    I showed you a clip of a sorc winning a duel tournament and you calmed it was all against noobs. You keep saying sorc is trash and you play nightblade/warden, but later you say you main sorc. Frankly, you are all over the map with your opinion, and have some sort of agenda every time you post. Yes, we understand...everyone is a noob but you. Got it... What happened to you quiting the game and giving up on the forum?

    Here's a guildmate of mine, Despotic. You may have seen his channel. He plays battlegrounds frequently and has a very high MMR. Before everyone screams his score is from stealing kills, no one in this match (except for him, meaning kills were stolen from him) has double digits in assists, meaning he stole very few kills.
    The results speak for themselves.

    https://youtu.be/tRn_Ki7uy8M

    31/0/11....in a high MMR match with little if any kill steals.
    As a sorc myself, all the whining over the class is getting embarrassing. It's like a little kid with a shiny new toy(sorc), but crying because the kid across the street (nightblade) is just a tad more shiny.

    Here's my PvE geared sorc (all divines, no impen, one shield, no rune cage) in a battleground last night.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp

    Sorcs are in a good place. Stop whining because you're not number one. It's damn embarrassing for the rest of us who still can play sorc.
    Or keep stompin your feet like silly spoiled kids...whatever...

    He got hard CC'd like 5 times and a bunch of those players just stood there and let him combo on them. There's absolutely no way that's a high MMR match(unless players are just worse overall on console?). If that were a high MMR match, he'd be getting fossalized or incap'd every 30 seconds or so and everyone would be dodge rolling and blocking his combos. He barely even got snared that match...

    This, pretty much.
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 6:52PM
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  • D0PAMINE
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    Universe wrote: »
    This is a sorcerer:
    buff11.jpg

    I love your Sorc. The Universe Mantikora solo was pretty cool.
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Solohope wrote: »
    So I recently posted a small clip of me getting my first quadra on my melee magblade and someone reponded with something along the lines of "You would get that on your first game on sorc. " kind of as a joke. However, I took his advice and this was the result...

    (I'm Zolodyk BTW )
    yzpIJIg.jpg


    This was my 5th game on my crafter sorc. Literally every single BG deathmatch I played I did not get less than 15 kills and got 3 quadras in 6 games. Are people seriously complaining about this class being underpowered. [snip]

    Yes. Sorc is underpowered. Win a dueling tournament against good NBs & DKS. You barely move an inch. Not by pondering noobs and low bies. Thats why no competitive player is playing sorc now.

    I showed you a clip of a sorc winning a duel tournament and you calmed it was all against noobs. You keep saying sorc is trash and you play nightblade/warden, but later you say you main sorc. Frankly, you are all over the map with your opinion, and have some sort of agenda every time you post. Yes, we understand...everyone is a noob but you. Got it... What happened to you quiting the game and giving up on the forum?

    Here's a guildmate of mine, Despotic. You may have seen his channel. He plays battlegrounds frequently and has a very high MMR. Before everyone screams his score is from stealing kills, no one in this match (except for him, meaning kills were stolen from him) has double digits in assists, meaning he stole very few kills.
    The results speak for themselves.

    https://youtu.be/tRn_Ki7uy8M

    31/0/11....in a high MMR match with little if any kill steals.
    As a sorc myself, all the whining over the class is getting embarrassing. It's like a little kid with a shiny new toy(sorc), but crying because the kid across the street (nightblade) is just a tad more shiny.

    Here's my PvE geared sorc (all divines, no impen, one shield, no rune cage) in a battleground last night.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp

    Sorcs are in a good place. Stop whining because you're not number one. It's damn embarrassing for the rest of us who still can play sorc.
    Or keep stompin your feet like silly spoiled kids...whatever...

    Resto ult is op, not sorc
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 6:53PM
  • brandonv516
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Solohope wrote: »
    So I recently posted a small clip of me getting my first quadra on my melee magblade and someone reponded with something along the lines of "You would get that on your first game on sorc. " kind of as a joke. However, I took his advice and this was the result...

    (I'm Zolodyk BTW )
    yzpIJIg.jpg


    This was my 5th game on my crafter sorc. Literally every single BG deathmatch I played I did not get less than 15 kills and got 3 quadras in 6 games. Are people seriously complaining about this class being underpowered. [snip]

    Yes. Sorc is underpowered. Win a dueling tournament against good NBs & DKS. You barely move an inch. Not by pondering noobs and low bies. Thats why no competitive player is playing sorc now.

    I showed you a clip of a sorc winning a duel tournament and you calmed it was all against noobs. You keep saying sorc is trash and you play nightblade/warden, but later you say you main sorc. Frankly, you are all over the map with your opinion, and have some sort of agenda every time you post. Yes, we understand...everyone is a noob but you. Got it... What happened to you quiting the game and giving up on the forum?

    Here's a guildmate of mine, Despotic. You may have seen his channel. He plays battlegrounds frequently and has a very high MMR. Before everyone screams his score is from stealing kills, no one in this match (except for him, meaning kills were stolen from him) has double digits in assists, meaning he stole very few kills.
    The results speak for themselves.

    https://youtu.be/tRn_Ki7uy8M

    31/0/11....in a high MMR match with little if any kill steals.
    As a sorc myself, all the whining over the class is getting embarrassing. It's like a little kid with a shiny new toy(sorc), but crying because the kid across the street (nightblade) is just a tad more shiny.

    Here's my PvE geared sorc (all divines, no impen, one shield, no rune cage) in a battleground last night.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp

    Sorcs are in a good place. Stop whining because you're not number one. It's damn embarrassing for the rest of us who still can play sorc.
    Or keep stompin your feet like silly spoiled kids...whatever...

    Resto ult is op, not sorc

    Resto ult is love. Resto ult is life.
    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 6:53PM
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    I use sloads on my 2h stamsorc. The hate-whispers from killed DKs are fun.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Solohope wrote: »
    So I recently posted a small clip of me getting my first quadra on my melee magblade and someone reponded with something along the lines of "You would get that on your first game on sorc. " kind of as a joke. However, I took his advice and this was the result...

    (I'm Zolodyk BTW )
    yzpIJIg.jpg


    This was my 5th game on my crafter sorc. Literally every single BG deathmatch I played I did not get less than 15 kills and got 3 quadras in 6 games. Are people seriously complaining about this class being underpowered. [snip]

    Yes. Sorc is underpowered. Win a dueling tournament against good NBs & DKS. You barely move an inch. Not by pondering noobs and low bies. Thats why no competitive player is playing sorc now.

    I showed you a clip of a sorc winning a duel tournament and you calmed it was all against noobs. You keep saying sorc is trash and you play nightblade/warden, but later you say you main sorc. Frankly, you are all over the map with your opinion, and have some sort of agenda every time you post. Yes, we understand...everyone is a noob but you. Got it... What happened to you quiting the game and giving up on the forum?

    Here's a guildmate of mine, Despotic. You may have seen his channel. He plays battlegrounds frequently and has a very high MMR. Before everyone screams his score is from stealing kills, no one in this match (except for him, meaning kills were stolen from him) has double digits in assists, meaning he stole very few kills.
    The results speak for themselves.

    https://youtu.be/tRn_Ki7uy8M

    31/0/11....in a high MMR match with little if any kill steals.
    As a sorc myself, all the whining over the class is getting embarrassing. It's like a little kid with a shiny new toy(sorc), but crying because the kid across the street (nightblade) is just a tad more shiny.

    Here's my PvE geared sorc (all divines, no impen, one shield, no rune cage) in a battleground last night.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp

    Sorcs are in a good place. Stop whining because you're not number one. It's damn embarrassing for the rest of us who still can play sorc.
    Or keep stompin your feet like silly spoiled kids...whatever...

    Lol. Its some random battle ground video. Where is website link for dual tournament ? Still waiting for dual tournament website and video . Do you even know what is dueling tournament is ?

    I'm not talking about this clip, I'm talking about the last time you were going on and on about "Show me a sorc winning a tournament" so I did just that. Showed you a sorc (MoS Creator) going through 10 of some of the best players on PS4 EU..you claimed it didn't count because "All those players were just noobs"....in other words, your typical answer.
    Why show you yet another tournament? You'll just say the same thing, because you have nothing else to say...do you even know what a broken record is?

    Its not a tournament, it's a random bg.
    Tournament is when people organize a dueling competition, for example. Or group vs group competition in Cyro.
    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 6:54PM
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  • Vahrokh
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Solohope wrote: »
    So I recently posted a small clip of me getting my first quadra on my melee magblade and someone reponded with something along the lines of "You would get that on your first game on sorc. " kind of as a joke. However, I took his advice and this was the result...

    (I'm Zolodyk BTW )
    yzpIJIg.jpg


    This was my 5th game on my crafter sorc. Literally every single BG deathmatch I played I did not get less than 15 kills and got 3 quadras in 6 games. Are people seriously complaining about this class being underpowered. [snip]

    Yes. Sorc is underpowered. Win a dueling tournament against good NBs & DKS. You barely move an inch. Not by pondering noobs and low bies. Thats why no competitive player is playing sorc now.

    I showed you a clip of a sorc winning a duel tournament and you calmed it was all against noobs. You keep saying sorc is trash and you play nightblade/warden, but later you say you main sorc. Frankly, you are all over the map with your opinion, and have some sort of agenda every time you post. Yes, we understand...everyone is a noob but you. Got it... What happened to you quiting the game and giving up on the forum?

    Here's a guildmate of mine, Despotic. You may have seen his channel. He plays battlegrounds frequently and has a very high MMR. Before everyone screams his score is from stealing kills, no one in this match (except for him, meaning kills were stolen from him) has double digits in assists, meaning he stole very few kills.
    The results speak for themselves.

    https://youtu.be/tRn_Ki7uy8M

    31/0/11....in a high MMR match with little if any kill steals.
    As a sorc myself, all the whining over the class is getting embarrassing. It's like a little kid with a shiny new toy(sorc), but crying because the kid across the street (nightblade) is just a tad more shiny.

    Here's my PvE geared sorc (all divines, no impen, one shield, no rune cage) in a battleground last night.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp

    Sorcs are in a good place. Stop whining because you're not number one. It's damn embarrassing for the rest of us who still can play sorc.
    Or keep stompin your feet like silly spoiled kids...whatever...

    Lol. Its some random battle ground video. Where is website link for dual tournament ? Still waiting for dual tournament website and video . Do you even know what is dueling tournament is ?

    I'm not talking about this clip, I'm talking about the last time you were going on and on about "Show me a sorc winning a tournament" so I did just that. Showed you a sorc (MoS Creator) going through 10 of some of the best players on PS4 EU..you claimed it didn't count because "All those players were just noobs"....in other words, your typical answer.
    Why show you yet another tournament? You'll just say the same thing, because you have nothing else to say...do you even know what a broken record is?

    Its not a tournament, it's a random bg.
    Tournament is when people organize a dueling competition, for example. Or group vs group competition in Cyro.

    Yeah..again, not this clip in this post.
    In another post this guy was asking for a tournament to be shown with a sorc winning, so I showed him one. He then claimed it didn't count because it was against noobs. So, in otherwords, it doesn't matter if he sees another tournament, he'll just dismiss it as "being against noobs", because that's all he knows how to say.
    What is so hard to understand that I'm not talking about this BG clip in this post, but I'm referring to another?
    How slow are you people? You even have my quote saying I'm not talking about the clip in this post....smh

    BG <- - - - - - - - - - - -> Tournament.

    I hope visual aid helps spotting the difference.
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 6:54PM
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Solohope wrote: »
    So I recently posted a small clip of me getting my first quadra on my melee magblade and someone reponded with something along the lines of "You would get that on your first game on sorc. " kind of as a joke. However, I took his advice and this was the result...

    (I'm Zolodyk BTW )
    yzpIJIg.jpg


    This was my 5th game on my crafter sorc. Literally every single BG deathmatch I played I did not get less than 15 kills and got 3 quadras in 6 games. Are people seriously complaining about this class being underpowered. [snip]

    Yes. Sorc is underpowered. Win a dueling tournament against good NBs & DKS. You barely move an inch. Not by pondering noobs and low bies. Thats why no competitive player is playing sorc now.

    I showed you a clip of a sorc winning a duel tournament and you calmed it was all against noobs. You keep saying sorc is trash and you play nightblade/warden, but later you say you main sorc. Frankly, you are all over the map with your opinion, and have some sort of agenda every time you post. Yes, we understand...everyone is a noob but you. Got it... What happened to you quiting the game and giving up on the forum?

    Here's a guildmate of mine, Despotic. You may have seen his channel. He plays battlegrounds frequently and has a very high MMR. Before everyone screams his score is from stealing kills, no one in this match (except for him, meaning kills were stolen from him) has double digits in assists, meaning he stole very few kills.
    The results speak for themselves.

    https://youtu.be/tRn_Ki7uy8M

    31/0/11....in a high MMR match with little if any kill steals.
    As a sorc myself, all the whining over the class is getting embarrassing. It's like a little kid with a shiny new toy(sorc), but crying because the kid across the street (nightblade) is just a tad more shiny.

    Here's my PvE geared sorc (all divines, no impen, one shield, no rune cage) in a battleground last night.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp

    Sorcs are in a good place. Stop whining because you're not number one. It's damn embarrassing for the rest of us who still can play sorc.
    Or keep stompin your feet like silly spoiled kids...whatever...

    Lol. Its some random battle ground video. Where is website link for dual tournament ? Still waiting for dual tournament website and video . Do you even know what is dueling tournament is ?

    I'm not talking about this clip, I'm talking about the last time you were going on and on about "Show me a sorc winning a tournament" so I did just that. Showed you a sorc (MoS Creator) going through 10 of some of the best players on PS4 EU..you claimed it didn't count because "All those players were just noobs"....in other words, your typical answer.
    Why show you yet another tournament? You'll just say the same thing, because you have nothing else to say...do you even know what a broken record is?

    Its not a tournament, it's a random bg.
    Tournament is when people organize a dueling competition, for example. Or group vs group competition in Cyro.

    Yeah..again, not this clip in this post.
    In another post this guy was asking for a tournament to be shown with a sorc winning, so I showed him one. He then claimed it didn't count because it was against noobs. So, in otherwords, it doesn't matter if he sees another tournament, he'll just dismiss it as "being against noobs", because that's all he knows how to say.
    What is so hard to understand that I'm not talking about this BG clip in this post, but I'm referring to another?
    How slow are you people? You even have my quote saying I'm not talking about the clip in this post....smh

    Well this video wasnt showing a sorc winning a tournament, it was a random bg, likely with low mmr. I dont think that cp 390 guy with a "Recruit" rank was one of the best pvpers on the server, for example. Most of people in the vid also had low pvp ranks so it couldnt be a high mmr match. Sergeant/first sergeant is ridiculously easy to get these days and you get a ton of ap for playing bgs, so even if console level would be THAT low (I dont think it is), they would have had much higher ranks simply from playing bgs.
    I don't have anything against the youtuber, but that's how mmr works. When you create a new character, you play against newbs for a while. You can do that with any class, btw.
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on November 2, 2025 6:55PM
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  • Universe
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    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    This is a sorcerer:
    buff11.jpg

    I love your Sorc. The Universe Mantikora solo was pretty cool.

    Thank you mate B)
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
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