FloppyTouch wrote: »Well they are giving you 100k gold that might cover the cost
LiquidSchwartz wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »Well they are giving you 100k gold that might cover the cost
In a month.. so I have to wait a month to change a skill they changed?
FloppyTouch wrote: »LiquidSchwartz wrote: »FloppyTouch wrote: »Well they are giving you 100k gold that might cover the cost
In a month.. so I have to wait a month to change a skill they changed?
I agree with you dont get me wrong just saying you will get ur gold back plus a ton more no need to wait spend now and get the refund from the free gold. You are not losing anything really.
Are you seriously pulling the semantics card out?ZOS never promised to make respec cheaper. Just more convenient. And on that they delivered.
We also have fixed the issue where respec costs didn’t appear to be reduced to 1 gold per skill point, and are extending the reduced fee until a future incremental patch.
Oh, nice. So we had a 10+ page thread about this before and know consoles are catching up.
ZOS never promised to make respec cheaper. Just more convenient. And on that they delivered.
You have kidneys...LiquidSchwartz wrote: »What if I don’t have any gold
Recently folded out three tank sets so I may or may not have zero gold
Console users expected the same reduction when the patch was released.
Huh? So you saying PC cost is the same as before? I thought the gig was was pay per skill point now.
Resting all points at end game is hardly a chore, as you have then in everything. And at least I feel I'm getting more for my buck lol, or get the odd stray one back as I change my mind on something if I do the lot.
I'm sure its Gold per SP now on PC
Oh, nice. So we had a 10+ page thread about this before and know consoles are catching up.
ZOS never promised to make respec cheaper. Just more convenient. And on that they delivered.
LiquidSchwartz wrote: »Oh, nice. So we had a 10+ page thread about this before and know consoles are catching up.
ZOS never promised to make respec cheaper. Just more convenient. And on that they delivered.
Was listed in the patch notes for Xbox that’s it will cost 1 gold per skillpoint until next incremental so....
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »General
Respec costs are now actually 1 gold per skill point in the UI, and will remain 1 gold until a future incremental.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »The original intent for reducing the respec costs were so PC players could regain any skill points that may have been lost with changes made to the Devour ability. We’ll be fixing that underlying issue in the next console patch, so there isn’t a need to adjust the respec costs. In addition, we didn’t want to introduce any of the UI/purchasing issues that occurred on PC with the console update; this included the wrong gold amount being displayed, and not being able to purchase a respec if you didn't have enough gold, despite it only costing 1 gold per skill point.
Waffennacht wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »General
Respec costs are now actually 1 gold per skill point in the UI, and will remain 1 gold until a future incremental.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »The original intent for reducing the respec costs were so PC players could regain any skill points that may have been lost with changes made to the Devour ability. We’ll be fixing that underlying issue in the next console patch, so there isn’t a need to adjust the respec costs. In addition, we didn’t want to introduce any of the UI/purchasing issues that occurred on PC with the console update; this included the wrong gold amount being displayed, and not being able to purchase a respec if you didn't have enough gold, despite it only costing 1 gold per skill point.
@Royaji for reference
Waffennacht wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »General
Respec costs are now actually 1 gold per skill point in the UI, and will remain 1 gold until a future incremental.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »The original intent for reducing the respec costs were so PC players could regain any skill points that may have been lost with changes made to the Devour ability. We’ll be fixing that underlying issue in the next console patch, so there isn’t a need to adjust the respec costs. In addition, we didn’t want to introduce any of the UI/purchasing issues that occurred on PC with the console update; this included the wrong gold amount being displayed, and not being able to purchase a respec if you didn't have enough gold, despite it only costing 1 gold per skill point.
@Royaji for reference
@Waffennacht those are indeed PC v4.1.7 patch notes. I am waiting for Xbox patch notes with anything about 1 gold per skill point in them. Oh, they are not coming since there are none. And Gina even explained why in the second message you are quoting.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »madchuska83 wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just posted a reply in a different thread, but just so you all are aware too, the change to HDR was intended to aid in some overly-saturated assets found throughout the game but it had some unintended consequences. We’re continuing to evaluate the changes that were made in today’s patch, and will keep everyone updated on the status.
If it was intended then why is there no mention of it in any patch notes? Why has PC not had any problems with HDR? I will be canceling my ESO+ auto renewal until this is resolved.
The missing patch note was completely my fault. It was sent to me, and I forgot to add it. My apologies.
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »General
Respec costs are now actually 1 gold per skill point in the UI, and will remain 1 gold until a future incremental.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »The original intent for reducing the respec costs were so PC players could regain any skill points that may have been lost with changes made to the Devour ability. We’ll be fixing that underlying issue in the next console patch, so there isn’t a need to adjust the respec costs. In addition, we didn’t want to introduce any of the UI/purchasing issues that occurred on PC with the console update; this included the wrong gold amount being displayed, and not being able to purchase a respec if you didn't have enough gold, despite it only costing 1 gold per skill point.
@Royaji for reference
@Waffennacht those are indeed PC v4.1.7 patch notes. I am waiting for Xbox patch notes with anything about 1 gold per skill point in them. Oh, they are not coming since there are none. And Gina even explained why in the second message you are quoting.
First off Xbox notes came at a different date, so those that read the original release wouldn't know to go back and see that different versions of the games get different experiences (alone a WTF moment?)
Second: I figured the lack of saying we did or didn't get it was just us being forgotten about:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »madchuska83 wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just posted a reply in a different thread, but just so you all are aware too, the change to HDR was intended to aid in some overly-saturated assets found throughout the game but it had some unintended consequences. We’re continuing to evaluate the changes that were made in today’s patch, and will keep everyone updated on the status.
If it was intended then why is there no mention of it in any patch notes? Why has PC not had any problems with HDR? I will be canceling my ESO+ auto renewal until this is resolved.
The missing patch note was completely my fault. It was sent to me, and I forgot to add it. My apologies.
Also; why are you so against console players being treated equally? We even have the same god damn bug as she admitted and that it won't be fixed until a future patch?
Edit: and if we are nitpicking BS; then why do non-WW PC players get the reduced cost? Didn't effect them, in fact there are console players more greatly impacted than those non-WW PC players - yet they get the reduced cost.
It's just another line in failed excuses when they could have EASILY been clear to begin with.
Or maybe they just forgot
Which as we can see was not true. There is nothing in Xbox patch notes about cheaper respecs. Easy as that.LiquidSchwartz wrote: »
Was listed in the patch notes for Xbox that’s it will cost 1 gold per skillpoint until next incremental so....
While I agree the cost should be less but where in patch notes did it ever say that respecting would cost less?
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »General
Respec costs are now actually 1 gold per skill point in the UI, and will remain 1 gold until a future incremental.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »The original intent for reducing the respec costs were so PC players could regain any skill points that may have been lost with changes made to the Devour ability. We’ll be fixing that underlying issue in the next console patch, so there isn’t a need to adjust the respec costs. In addition, we didn’t want to introduce any of the UI/purchasing issues that occurred on PC with the console update; this included the wrong gold amount being displayed, and not being able to purchase a respec if you didn't have enough gold, despite it only costing 1 gold per skill point.
@Royaji for reference
@Waffennacht those are indeed PC v4.1.7 patch notes. I am waiting for Xbox patch notes with anything about 1 gold per skill point in them. Oh, they are not coming since there are none. And Gina even explained why in the second message you are quoting.
First off Xbox notes came at a different date, so those that read the original release wouldn't know to go back and see that different versions of the games get different experiences (alone a WTF moment?)
Second: I figured the lack of saying we did or didn't get it was just us being forgotten about:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »madchuska83 wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just posted a reply in a different thread, but just so you all are aware too, the change to HDR was intended to aid in some overly-saturated assets found throughout the game but it had some unintended consequences. We’re continuing to evaluate the changes that were made in today’s patch, and will keep everyone updated on the status.
If it was intended then why is there no mention of it in any patch notes? Why has PC not had any problems with HDR? I will be canceling my ESO+ auto renewal until this is resolved.
The missing patch note was completely my fault. It was sent to me, and I forgot to add it. My apologies.
Also; why are you so against console players being treated equally? We even have the same god damn bug as she admitted and that it won't be fixed until a future patch?
Edit: and if we are nitpicking BS; then why do non-WW PC players get the reduced cost? Didn't effect them, in fact there are console players more greatly impacted than those non-WW PC players - yet they get the reduced cost.
It's just another line in failed excuses when they could have EASILY been clear to begin with.
Or maybe they just forgot
You can't read something in PC patch notes and then complain that it wasn't in Xbox release when said changed isn't mentioned in Xbox patch notes. That's not how it works. PC and Xbox are indeed two different versions of the game with different builds.
And more than that, originally I've reacted to a very specific statement.Which as we can see was not true. There is nothing in Xbox patch notes about cheaper respecs. Easy as that.LiquidSchwartz wrote: »
Was listed in the patch notes for Xbox that’s it will cost 1 gold per skillpoint until next incremental so....
And trying to add an entirely unrelated point of Gina forgetting to add a change in 11 posts long patch notes has nothing to do with people making false statements.
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »General
Respec costs are now actually 1 gold per skill point in the UI, and will remain 1 gold until a future incremental.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »The original intent for reducing the respec costs were so PC players could regain any skill points that may have been lost with changes made to the Devour ability. We’ll be fixing that underlying issue in the next console patch, so there isn’t a need to adjust the respec costs. In addition, we didn’t want to introduce any of the UI/purchasing issues that occurred on PC with the console update; this included the wrong gold amount being displayed, and not being able to purchase a respec if you didn't have enough gold, despite it only costing 1 gold per skill point.
@Royaji for reference
@Waffennacht those are indeed PC v4.1.7 patch notes. I am waiting for Xbox patch notes with anything about 1 gold per skill point in them. Oh, they are not coming since there are none. And Gina even explained why in the second message you are quoting.
First off Xbox notes came at a different date, so those that read the original release wouldn't know to go back and see that different versions of the games get different experiences (alone a WTF moment?)
Second: I figured the lack of saying we did or didn't get it was just us being forgotten about:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »madchuska83 wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just posted a reply in a different thread, but just so you all are aware too, the change to HDR was intended to aid in some overly-saturated assets found throughout the game but it had some unintended consequences. We’re continuing to evaluate the changes that were made in today’s patch, and will keep everyone updated on the status.
If it was intended then why is there no mention of it in any patch notes? Why has PC not had any problems with HDR? I will be canceling my ESO+ auto renewal until this is resolved.
The missing patch note was completely my fault. It was sent to me, and I forgot to add it. My apologies.
Also; why are you so against console players being treated equally? We even have the same god damn bug as she admitted and that it won't be fixed until a future patch?
Edit: and if we are nitpicking BS; then why do non-WW PC players get the reduced cost? Didn't effect them, in fact there are console players more greatly impacted than those non-WW PC players - yet they get the reduced cost.
It's just another line in failed excuses when they could have EASILY been clear to begin with.
Or maybe they just forgot
You can't read something in PC patch notes and then complain that it wasn't in Xbox release when said changed isn't mentioned in Xbox patch notes. That's not how it works. PC and Xbox are indeed two different versions of the game with different builds.
And more than that, originally I've reacted to a very specific statement.Which as we can see was not true. There is nothing in Xbox patch notes about cheaper respecs. Easy as that.LiquidSchwartz wrote: »
Was listed in the patch notes for Xbox that’s it will cost 1 gold per skillpoint until next incremental so....
And trying to add an entirely unrelated point of Gina forgetting to add a change in 11 posts long patch notes has nothing to do with people making false statements.
I'm not talking about what he said.
But to say "it wasn't in the patch notes, therefore you cannot expect it to happen" is purely incorrect.
Because it's not in the patch notes doesn't mean it's not there intentionally - they could have (and why I bring it up) and HAVE forgotten to give Xbox CORRECT PATCH NOTES.
If we are to assume that if it is not included, then we have to assume it was done correctly - we cannot assume it was done correctly because it has NOT been done correctly SEVERAL times in the past.
My point is: no information from ZoS is reliable for console because we are treated as second class citizens.
And to read one set of notes - and the other lacking a single sentence - and to be able to decipher the intended differences (or not) to be how console players have to get information is just plan wrong and poor business practice.
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »General
Respec costs are now actually 1 gold per skill point in the UI, and will remain 1 gold until a future incremental.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »The original intent for reducing the respec costs were so PC players could regain any skill points that may have been lost with changes made to the Devour ability. We’ll be fixing that underlying issue in the next console patch, so there isn’t a need to adjust the respec costs. In addition, we didn’t want to introduce any of the UI/purchasing issues that occurred on PC with the console update; this included the wrong gold amount being displayed, and not being able to purchase a respec if you didn't have enough gold, despite it only costing 1 gold per skill point.
@Royaji for reference
@Waffennacht those are indeed PC v4.1.7 patch notes. I am waiting for Xbox patch notes with anything about 1 gold per skill point in them. Oh, they are not coming since there are none. And Gina even explained why in the second message you are quoting.
First off Xbox notes came at a different date, so those that read the original release wouldn't know to go back and see that different versions of the games get different experiences (alone a WTF moment?)
Second: I figured the lack of saying we did or didn't get it was just us being forgotten about:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »madchuska83 wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just posted a reply in a different thread, but just so you all are aware too, the change to HDR was intended to aid in some overly-saturated assets found throughout the game but it had some unintended consequences. We’re continuing to evaluate the changes that were made in today’s patch, and will keep everyone updated on the status.
If it was intended then why is there no mention of it in any patch notes? Why has PC not had any problems with HDR? I will be canceling my ESO+ auto renewal until this is resolved.
The missing patch note was completely my fault. It was sent to me, and I forgot to add it. My apologies.
Also; why are you so against console players being treated equally? We even have the same god damn bug as she admitted and that it won't be fixed until a future patch?
Edit: and if we are nitpicking BS; then why do non-WW PC players get the reduced cost? Didn't effect them, in fact there are console players more greatly impacted than those non-WW PC players - yet they get the reduced cost.
It's just another line in failed excuses when they could have EASILY been clear to begin with.
Or maybe they just forgot
You can't read something in PC patch notes and then complain that it wasn't in Xbox release when said changed isn't mentioned in Xbox patch notes. That's not how it works. PC and Xbox are indeed two different versions of the game with different builds.
And more than that, originally I've reacted to a very specific statement.Which as we can see was not true. There is nothing in Xbox patch notes about cheaper respecs. Easy as that.LiquidSchwartz wrote: »
Was listed in the patch notes for Xbox that’s it will cost 1 gold per skillpoint until next incremental so....
And trying to add an entirely unrelated point of Gina forgetting to add a change in 11 posts long patch notes has nothing to do with people making false statements.
I'm not talking about what he said.
But to say "it wasn't in the patch notes, therefore you cannot expect it to happen" is purely incorrect.
Because it's not in the patch notes doesn't mean it's not there intentionally - they could have (and why I bring it up) and HAVE forgotten to give Xbox CORRECT PATCH NOTES.
If we are to assume that if it is not included, then we have to assume it was done correctly - we cannot assume it was done correctly because it has NOT been done correctly SEVERAL times in the past.
My point is: no information from ZoS is reliable for console because we are treated as second class citizens.
And to read one set of notes - and the other lacking a single sentence - and to be able to decipher the intended differences (or not) to be how console players have to get information is just plan wrong and poor business practice.
Something isn't in the patch notes, you can't expect it to be in the game. That's how patch notes work. In general. Not even related to ESO. Sometimes mistakes can happen. But even then, in this case there was no mistake and Gina has confirmed it.
And you can only blame yourself for reading PC patch notes and then expecting to have the same patch on Xbox. I don't read Xbox and PS patch notes since they bear no relevance to the build of the game I'm playing on PC. Same applies to anyone on Xbox or PS.
Anyway, I'm not here to discuss social standing of ESO players in regards to their paltform of choice. If you want to be the oppressed console gamer, feel free to do so. There is no need for me to continue participating in this discussion.
PS4 same bug, told it's 1 gold per skill, but cost me 2200g for 2 skills ... Beyond stupid
Please work for ZoS.You are paying for unlocking your skillpoints. It doesn't matter what changes will you make after that.
Please work for ZoS.You are paying for unlocking your skillpoints. It doesn't matter what changes will you make after that.
You did better with this one sentence than an entire patch note did.
Awesome for you.
Once it's stated like this, it makes perfect sense and aligns with CP adjustment.