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Battleground Queue
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Solo queue is fine and dandy, fast and good.
Time to improve the group queue, which is not fine.
Time to improve the group queue, which is not fine.
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Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭If your queue takes too long when you queue in a duo, just play another character. I duo'd with a friend for 3 weeks or so, in the end we had 25m queues. They extended to 35m+ the moment we were 3.(Not to mention fighting 3+ premade vs. a bunch of randoms is extremely boring. 510 score to 75 or so last time....Never did that again. Now I even turn down close friends, because I don't wanna run as more than 2.)
I would guess they just add the MMR of a team together. So if you have a 4-man premade with, let's say 500 MMR added together, then you won't get a queue before other teams are also close to 500 MMR(Which is not likely, since there are rarely 4v4v4 premade teams). But as the queue lasts longer, the accepted difference between your teams' MMR and the opponent's, seem to get lower, hence the long queue time.
Or they could make it simple. Scratch the MMR system, make a different queue for solo/duo and 3-4 man premade. Might be easier to get BGs then, although the balance may be bad.
Edit: I'm pretty sure that the queueing system is working as intended, as a way to try to balance teams. When I started on a new character, I was fighting against literally potatoes. Stamblades that died in my walls + blazing spear dots constantly. But as I won more and more on the character, I ended up fighting better players, too.Edited by Lieblingsjunge on August 18, 2018 11:34AMIgnorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Still thinking that after a 10 minute queue the sistem should slap you in a gameI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
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BigBadVolk✭✭✭✭✭IMO they should drop the MMR system and make something similar to Rainbow Six's system like where there is a MMR/Leaderboard queu for those who wish to fight better players and a casual/noncompetitive queu but ye, one of the reasons I dont queu in group (well I like to play mostly solo) is because even before this systems queue in groups were too long for my taste
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Saturn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Solo queue is fine and dandy, fast and good.
Time to improve the group queue, which is not fine.
B-but, it's an intelligent queuing system...0 -
Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
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The system *IS* intelligent. There is nothing wrong with the queueing system per se. It's just that when you've reached a certain high MMR, there aren't enough enemies around your MMR to fight. That's why the long queues. The queueing system is most likely working as it was intended to.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »
The system *IS* intelligent. There is nothing wrong with the queueing system per se. It's just that when you've reached a certain high MMR, there aren't enough enemies around your MMR to fight. That's why the long queues. The queueing system is most likely working as it was intended to.
I disagree. I don't believe it matches based on any kind of ranking system. Especially not when teams can have a 90% win rate. That wouldn't be possible with a balanced system. The queue has always been slow with groups, no matter what arbitrary systems they want us to believe are in place.0 -
Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The solo queue is not fine. It regularly bugs out, people "declining the invite" when it's at the "Forming Group" stage or when you know no-one's actually declining.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »
The system *IS* intelligent. There is nothing wrong with the queueing system per se. It's just that when you've reached a certain high MMR, there aren't enough enemies around your MMR to fight. That's why the long queues. The queueing system is most likely working as it was intended to.
I disagree. I don't believe it matches based on any kind of ranking system. Especially not when teams can have a 90% win rate. That wouldn't be possible with a balanced system. The queue has always been slow with groups, no matter what arbitrary systems they want us to believe are in place.
You can disagree but this has been tested by many players, confirmed by devs, and written out in the patch notes.
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✭✭✭Solo queue is most definitely not fine. Not for my main at least with his high MMR.0 -
Saturn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »
The system *IS* intelligent. There is nothing wrong with the queueing system per se. It's just that when you've reached a certain high MMR, there aren't enough enemies around your MMR to fight. That's why the long queues. The queueing system is most likely working as it was intended to.
I disagree. I don't believe it matches based on any kind of ranking system. Especially not when teams can have a 90% win rate. That wouldn't be possible with a balanced system. The queue has always been slow with groups, no matter what arbitrary systems they want us to believe are in place.
You can disagree but this has been tested by many players, confirmed by devs, and written out in the patch notes.
A lot of the players who have tested it, have also reported fighting people not on their "skill level". Also, both the devs and patch notes have mentioned things before as "working" when they quite obviously weren't. Looking at how the queue works, and having done a lot of bgs, I can say that there's nothing intelligent about the queue.0 -
erlewine✭✭✭I just don't queue battlegrounds with more than one other person. It just gives you a long queue and boring games, since likely you'll just end up playing against a group of solo queuers and crushing them, which sounds fun on paper but gets boring really quick.eisley the worst0 -
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✭✭The solo queues are not fine, speak for yourself. My solo queues on my main take 20 to 30 minutes, so what should be done about that? There is more going on than just solo vs group. The issue is with the hidden mmr on top of everything else.0 -
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✭exeeter702 wrote: »The solo queues are not fine, speak for yourself. My solo queues on my main take 20 to 30 minutes, so what should be done about that? There is more going on than just solo vs group. The issue is with the hidden mmr on top of everything else.
What you do is simple. Make another character and queue up on that one. Your queues should be close to instant.
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Lieblingsjunge(AD) - Racechanged Argonian :< | AR 50 - No double AP or Bleakers involved |
Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>
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✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »The solo queues are not fine, speak for yourself. My solo queues on my main take 20 to 30 minutes, so what should be done about that? There is more going on than just solo vs group. The issue is with the hidden mmr on top of everything else.
What you do is simple. Make another character and queue up on that one. Your queues should be close to instant.
sadly that has been my exact course of action
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✭✭Don't know about everyone else but the whole......someone has left que over and over again gets abit annoying....
Yeah people do leave the que...but 12 times in a row and once re-logging get into a game instantly....mmmmmm.@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP0 -
TheKingofSass✭✭✭✭Nothing is fine. Last night I tried to queue in with a guildie and for the past 10 mins straight it kept declining. Im talking about: the group ready to form, then “someone” declines, gets put into queue again, and not a sec later group is ready, and someone is declining. Ready check, group forming, someone declines, gets in queue (1 sec) ready check, group forming, declines, and repeat...
No one can convince me that people are doing this, but that its a serious bug on ZoS end. This isnt normal."Remember, darkness does not always equate to evil, just as light does not always bring good."
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Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The same is happening with the dungeon group finder (like for nrandoms), and it's definitely a bug. It's harder to verify on BGs with 12 people but in dungeon finder, the same is happening with pre-made 4-man groups who're all clearly accepting.0