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Werewolf Heal is OVERBUFFED.
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Chrlynsch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Anyway , 2 days of playing with my 50k health Werewolf in BGs i can say it is OP asf.
Wearing Shacklebreaker+Sloads and Skoria with infused weapon with Oblivion glyph . I can rip trough peoples flesh and heal for 21k at the same time (14k after defile).
Bravo ZoS, Bravo
That's the gear, not werewolf. And you'd still only get a handful of those heals before you run out of magicka.
Tell that to my Argonian Werewolf with 1600 Magicka Recovery.
Lets see them score screenshots!Caius
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RouDeR✭✭✭✭✭
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@Chrlynsch @Mr_WolfeAnyway , 2 days of playing with my 50k health Werewolf in BGs i can say it is OP asf.
Wearing Shacklebreaker+Sloads and Skoria with infused weapon with Oblivion glyph . I can rip trough peoples flesh and heal for 21k at the same time (14k after defile).
Bravo ZoS, Bravo
That's the gear, not werewolf. And you'd still only get a handful of those heals before you run out of magicka.
Tell that to my Argonian Werewolf with 1600 Magicka Recovery.
Lets see them score screenshots!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLsoj1QyIN8&feature=youtu.be
This is better , here it is , I`m Barely 300 CP and can facetank zergs,
30k heals non crit and 50k crit heals , and this is WITHOUT Major vitality.
With major vitality pots my heals are 40k non crit and 65k crit.
On 16-second of the video you can see my heal crits for 50+k (not defiled ) , while defiled I get 22-23k heals and 35-40k crit heals.Edited by RouDeR on August 21, 2018 7:25PM0 -
Amdar_Godkiller✭✭✭✭✭Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »Does this stack with cp trees ?
You don´t get those numbers without CP
Doesn’t answer my question. Is it a 93 tooltip automatically or is that what it comes to with cp?
Didn't he though?
No clearly it doesn’t . There’s base tooltips and then there’s tooltips that get increased with cp. saying you don’t get those type of numbers isn’t a concise answer, it’s vague. What numbers ?
The question is the base tooltip 93 percent or is that after cp???............
Base healing is 60% of Max HP (if I recall correctly from PTS) without any CP, heavy armor or racial bonuses
Thank you. I wasn't sure if 93 was the base + cp increasing the heal. 60 is still pretty high.
They are also using the "PVE morph" of the heal, as most PVP wolves will opt for the one that gives major brutality and heals for 45% of max health. Weapon power potions just aren't very effective for WWs because we are highly susceptible to roots and CCs. Health, Magic (or Stam), and immovability pots are ideal for survivability, and anyone who doesn't use them is easy to focus down.
The only build that would be able to do this well would be Dreugh King Slayer + Sanctuary + Troll King with 5 heavy on an argonian with lots of CP in blessed and quick recovery, the ritual mundus, and a powered/infused DW setup.
12% healing received (sanctuary)
5% healing received (argonian)
15% healing received (quick recovery)
8% healing received (heavy armor)
140% healing received
4% healing taken (Sanctuary 3 piece bonus)
104% healing taken
15% (Blessed CP)
11.5% (Ritual with 2 divines)
4.5% (Powered)
5% (Argonian)
2% (Troll King)
138% healing done
healing done x healing received x healing taken = Heal for 120.6% of max health
Even here though, you're just negating battle spirit, so the actual heal in PVP would be 60% of max health, which would likely be around 35K, so a 21K heal. Fully defiled that heal would drop to 6400. At this point, you won't he able to use it more than a couple of times before your magicka pool dries up and you die.
Only an idiot will run Sanctuary this patch instead of Plague Doctor or Green Pact,
Your math is wrong , argonians cannot be fully defiled because of the disease resistances ( Unless they use Pirate Skeleton or encounter enemy with Fesala)
So the maximum defile% they will be getting 90% of the time is from Incap or Lethal arrow (45% with cp ) which leaves them wih 12k Heal
Major defile just won't proc as a secondary effect of disease damage. You can still get it from any skill or set that explicitly applies it.And you forgot about the defiling poison which will stack minor defile on major defile with any lethal arrow or reverberating bath. If you faced me in cyrodil you'd be 70% defiled all the time.
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RouDeR✭✭✭✭✭
✭Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »CatchMeTrolling wrote: »Does this stack with cp trees ?
You don´t get those numbers without CP
Doesn’t answer my question. Is it a 93 tooltip automatically or is that what it comes to with cp?
Didn't he though?
No clearly it doesn’t . There’s base tooltips and then there’s tooltips that get increased with cp. saying you don’t get those type of numbers isn’t a concise answer, it’s vague. What numbers ?
The question is the base tooltip 93 percent or is that after cp???............
Base healing is 60% of Max HP (if I recall correctly from PTS) without any CP, heavy armor or racial bonuses
Thank you. I wasn't sure if 93 was the base + cp increasing the heal. 60 is still pretty high.
They are also using the "PVE morph" of the heal, as most PVP wolves will opt for the one that gives major brutality and heals for 45% of max health. Weapon power potions just aren't very effective for WWs because we are highly susceptible to roots and CCs. Health, Magic (or Stam), and immovability pots are ideal for survivability, and anyone who doesn't use them is easy to focus down.
The only build that would be able to do this well would be Dreugh King Slayer + Sanctuary + Troll King with 5 heavy on an argonian with lots of CP in blessed and quick recovery, the ritual mundus, and a powered/infused DW setup.
12% healing received (sanctuary)
5% healing received (argonian)
15% healing received (quick recovery)
8% healing received (heavy armor)
140% healing received
4% healing taken (Sanctuary 3 piece bonus)
104% healing taken
15% (Blessed CP)
11.5% (Ritual with 2 divines)
4.5% (Powered)
5% (Argonian)
2% (Troll King)
138% healing done
healing done x healing received x healing taken = Heal for 120.6% of max health
Even here though, you're just negating battle spirit, so the actual heal in PVP would be 60% of max health, which would likely be around 35K, so a 21K heal. Fully defiled that heal would drop to 6400. At this point, you won't he able to use it more than a couple of times before your magicka pool dries up and you die.
Only an idiot will run Sanctuary this patch instead of Plague Doctor or Green Pact,
Your math is wrong , argonians cannot be fully defiled because of the disease resistances ( Unless they use Pirate Skeleton or encounter enemy with Fesala)
So the maximum defile% they will be getting 90% of the time is from Incap or Lethal arrow (45% with cp ) which leaves them wih 12k Heal
Major defile just won't proc as a secondary effect of disease damage. You can still get it from any skill or set that explicitly applies it.And you forgot about the defiling poison which will stack minor defile on major defile with any lethal arrow or reverberating bath. If you faced me in cyrodil you'd be 70% defiled all the time.
yea , that's why I still heal for 20k+ with 2 defiles on me , I run Pirate skeleton so it is the source of minor defile,
and the bow spammers put Major defile on me , but I can still pull 22k heals and 37-40k crit heals 0 -
Chrlynsch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭All i saw was you gettinh pounded on for 5 min... you either have no offensive strength and OP self heal... or stronger offensive capabilities, and weaker heals. What do you know, the heal looks balanced.Caius
Pack Leader of Scourge Alliance- First Fang of Hircine, The Beast of Bruma
PC NA1