Another guild trader idea :)

Tyralbin

How about a trader will work for any guild as long as all guilds have paid the same amount of gold as the winning bidder ( a trader would do this in real life you don't see a shop selling one brand).

The winning bidder would appear at the top of the list with those that follow appearing in the list as they have paid.

This will give more guilds options to trade and still keep good trading spots only open to those that can afford it.

What do you think?

Ectheliontnacil

Global auction house!

Grayfax

Global Auction house would be nice. And an Auctioneer assistant for more crowns spent...

The_Protagonist

The way traders are being controlled by the rich guilds is really very annoying, millions of gold just for a 7 day spot is ludicrous.

Either increase the number of traders all around or allow multiple guilds to use one trader, as mentioned above.

The_Protagonist

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Global auction house!

Grayfax wrote: »

Global Auction house would be nice. And an Auctioneer assistant for more crowns spent...

LOL we know how that will end, literal monopoly which is never good for the game economy and very useful for gold sellers, which in turn is bad for the game overall.

kargen27

What I see happening is guilds not bidding then scrambling to be the 2nd guild listed. If being listed first is a premium then what will happen is the prices to get a prime spot will go up each week because everybody will know what the top bid was/is. Will also probably see empty traders at the off the beaten path trading locations.

Maybe let top three bids be listed. Top bid players get to place thirty items 2nd bid twenty items and 3rd bid ten items. That way there is still good incentive to get that top spot.

I think a better idea would be to add a new trader at many of the taverns in the game.

jedtb16_ESO

Tyralbin wrote: »

How about a trader will work for any guild as long as all guilds have paid the same amount of gold as the winning bidder ( a trader would do this in real life you don't see a shop selling one brand).

The winning bidder would appear at the top of the list with those that follow appearing in the list as they have paid.

This will give more guilds options to trade and still keep good trading spots only open to those that can afford it.

What do you think?

really?

i can think of at least 6 stores within walking distance who do exactly that.

jwjackson5674

Just give people the ability to sell items straight from inventory if not in a guild.

Can cap it at like 5-10 items, and a special icon would appear beside their name to indicate they had items to sell.

kargen27

jwjackson5674 wrote: »

Just give people the ability to sell items straight from inventory if not in a guild.

Can cap it at like 5-10 items, and a special icon would appear beside their name to indicate they had items to sell.

Zone chat.

jwjackson5674

kargen27 wrote: »

jwjackson5674 wrote: »

Just give people the ability to sell items straight from inventory if not in a guild.

Can cap it at like 5-10 items, and a special icon would appear beside their name to indicate they had items to sell.

Zone chat.

Not like that. Make it to where people can set a price on something in their inventory, and an icon will appear by their name. Others can examine the persons personal set of items they are selling to see if it is something they want to buy, kind of like a mobile personal trader.

Starlock

jwjackson5674 wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

jwjackson5674 wrote: »

Just give people the ability to sell items straight from inventory if not in a guild.

Can cap it at like 5-10 items, and a special icon would appear beside their name to indicate they had items to sell.

Zone chat.

Not like that. Make it to where people can set a price on something in their inventory, and an icon will appear by their name. Others can examine the persons personal set of items they are selling to see if it is something they want to buy, kind of like a mobile personal trader.

This might be a nice quality of life improvement. Folks can do that now with housing stuff... seen a few guildies doing ‘garage sales’ so to speak. You can group things by price and label it.

Goratesque

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I want to buy Pepsi and Coca-Cola products from same trader.

Runs

I personally suggest a bazaar DLC...1500 crowns, because there is really nothing new just a slightly easier way to shop.


Yes, I know very detailed... Shrine in the middle, rest are kiosks.

Can be placed anywhere, but would essentially be a waysrhine surrounded by almost endless guild kiosks. These would be sister kiosks to the ones already located around Tamriel. The order would be based on the winning bid prices, those who payed the most for their normal kiosk would be closer to the waysrhine. With the highest payed being the first one a person sees when they wayshrine into the area.

They could also allow losing bids to end up hiring a kiosk in this DLC area so no more full on losing weeks.

This would allow ZOS to keep the trading system they seem to love, and allow those with the DLC easier access to the traders. No more spending all that time on load screens to all the different zones going trader to trader when looking for something specific. Yes, I am aware of TTC and sometimes even with that you still have to chase the odds 'n ends you are looking for.

Jamdarius

Instead of normal traders - make pocket dimension town owned by guilds, it would be in some basic style without specific race characteristic, maybe imperial if so. Players would have to craft items/farm items to upgrade it and place it in town stash etc etc. Each player would post at the town trader, banks would provide global trader function or maybe the previously used guild traders (we use TTC anyway to check prices so global trader wouldn't wreck the game). Inside the town, guild would unlock their own mats gathering places like mine/farm/forest etc. etc. with a limit of mats available / player (for example 50 raw mats / day for each 1 player). there would be special guild quests to run in the world to obtain special mats for upgrading town and its functions like giving 10% cheaper repairs, 5% more exp.

kargen27

Jamdarius wrote: »

Instead of normal traders - make pocket dimension town owned by guilds, it would be in some basic style without specific race characteristic, maybe imperial if so. Players would have to craft items/farm items to upgrade it and place it in town stash etc etc. Each player would post at the town trader, banks would provide global trader function or maybe the previously used guild traders (we use TTC anyway to check prices so global trader wouldn't wreck the game). Inside the town, guild would unlock their own mats gathering places like mine/farm/forest etc. etc. with a limit of mats available / player (for example 50 raw mats / day for each 1 player). there would be special guild quests to run in the world to obtain special mats for upgrading town and its functions like giving 10% cheaper repairs, 5% more exp.

So basically turn ESO into Sim Grind City Fest.

Jameliel

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Global auction house!

Grayfax wrote: »

Global Auction house would be nice. And an Auctioneer assistant for more crowns spent...

LOL we know how that will end, literal monopoly which is never good for the game economy and very useful for gold sellers, which in turn is bad for the game overall.

Please explain in minute detail how this is "bad for the economy" and "will help gold sellers". Heard of TTC? Explain the parallels between TTC's functions and webpage searches. Next explain the difference between these and a global AH. Explain any major differences besides time wasted. Very low intellects abound this day in age....smh

The_Protagonist

Jameliel wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Global auction house!

Grayfax wrote: »

Global Auction house would be nice. And an Auctioneer assistant for more crowns spent...

LOL we know how that will end, literal monopoly which is never good for the game economy and very useful for gold sellers, which in turn is bad for the game overall.

Please explain in minute detail how this is "bad for the economy" and "will help gold sellers". Heard of TTC? Explain the parallels between TTC's functions and webpage searches. Next explain the difference between these and a global AH. Explain any major differences besides time wasted. Very low intellects abound this day in age....smh

Nice Comment.

Makes it clear that you have made up your mind about it. The need to bash shows that you are getting defensive.

So all I will say is that you have a right to your opinion as we do ours. Good day.

radiostar

When you can be guild-less and use a trader to sell, just like you can be guildless and use a trader to buy, then more players will be interested.

XxCaLxX

I think there should be more options as for players that do not have guilds, no interest in joining guilds or whatever the case may be but ppl do need better ways to sell and buy. One problem I have with adding an auction house or any other ideas ppl have had is even if the trader system stays it will be less desirable to dish out that huge amount of gold each week to get or keep a trader. Now my question is, is if ppl/guilds aren’t putting out those hundreds of million maybe even billion if you consider all traders and how much these top spots go for each week, what happens to the economy if that much gold isn’t removed every week?

Ackwalan

Don't buy from the big traders. Go to the small traders, and if enough people do, you'll see a change. If not enough people change their where they buy, there won't be enough to warrant a change to the trade store as is.

Nocturnal_Annoyance

No. I'm not going to bid millions a week to end up sharing the stall with a potential enemy guild.

kargen27

Jamdarius wrote: »

Instead of normal traders - make pocket dimension town owned by guilds, it would be in some basic style without specific race characteristic, maybe imperial if so. Players would have to craft items/farm items to upgrade it and place it in town stash etc etc. Each player would post at the town trader, banks would provide global trader function or maybe the previously used guild traders (we use TTC anyway to check prices so global trader wouldn't wreck the game). Inside the town, guild would unlock their own mats gathering places like mine/farm/forest etc. etc. with a limit of mats available / player (for example 50 raw mats / day for each 1 player). there would be special guild quests to run in the world to obtain special mats for upgrading town and its functions like giving 10% cheaper repairs, 5% more exp.

So basically turn ESO into Sim Grind City Fest.

Jameliel wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Global auction house!

Grayfax wrote: »

Global Auction house would be nice. And an Auctioneer assistant for more crowns spent...

LOL we know how that will end, literal monopoly which is never good for the game economy and very useful for gold sellers, which in turn is bad for the game overall.

Please explain in minute detail how this is "bad for the economy" and "will help gold sellers". Heard of TTC? Explain the parallels between TTC's functions and webpage searches. Next explain the difference between these and a global AH. Explain any major differences besides time wasted. Very low intellects abound this day in age....smh

Been done many many times. Type "global" and/or "auction" in the search function and you can read threads that probably number into the triple digits on the topic. Bad for the economy is simple. Right now if someone wanted to monopolize a rare item they would need to be able to have someone sitting on over 200 traders all day every day. Maybe they could run a rotation and get most the rare items. Still for that kind of coverage it is going to take more than one hundred players working together to do this because one player can't be on 24 hours every day. They will have to work it in shifts. With the global auction house three people can track and monopolize any rare item they wish just by one of them sitting on the auction house eight hours at a time. Players would do this as is evidenced in the forums of other games where you can find many complaints of this very thing happening. On the other end of the spectrum prices on common items will drop to almost vendor numbers. Inventory can be a problem in this game and a good way to deal with inventory quickly is under price common items.

One location verses 200 locations independently controlled. Which one do you think would be the easiest to manipulate?

Jykel

As an old player returning after a long break, 2 years, I find it interesting on PS4 NA the number of traders I have seen that have little to no stock in some areas. Is this partner or sub-guilds buying spots in areas to create less supply?

Anyway, maybe have a 24 hour window each Sunday where all traders (or a rep.) appear in a global trade area. So the prime areas are still prime for 6 days but then on Sunday its a big trade meet where every trader is on a level footing and searching traders (on console) becomes easy and less time consuming.

wolfie1.0.

Jameliel wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Global auction house!

Grayfax wrote: »

Global Auction house would be nice. And an Auctioneer assistant for more crowns spent...

LOL we know how that will end, literal monopoly which is never good for the game economy and very useful for gold sellers, which in turn is bad for the game overall.

Please explain in minute detail how this is "bad for the economy" and "will help gold sellers". Heard of TTC? Explain the parallels between TTC's functions and webpage searches. Next explain the difference between these and a global AH. Explain any major differences besides time wasted. Very low intellects abound this day in age....smh

How does a GAH hurt the economy? 1) it wont sink enough gold from the game. Right now I know of no trader spot that can be bought solely off of guild sales taxes. 2) ZOS chose to use mega servers with multiple instances instead of many subscribers. This makes market manipulation very easy with a GAH. If you think the price manipulation is bad now you would be surprised what those mega guilds could do with a GAH. You have to remember that some people play ESO to play the markets just as much as people play to PVE and PVP.

Regarding TTC. IMO I feel that TTC is a breach of the TOS and Add-on TOS. The reason? It uses third party software (outside the game) to upload data to the site and back to the game. If I were ZOS I would've banned it. However they disagree and I am not ZOS. That said it is no GAH. Its information is limited by its users and dependent on people using the addon and actually visiting each trader to retrieve information. Its inconsistent with a lot of items and by the time you travel to the place there's a good chance the item sold. There's enough lag and variation that its acceptable