Stamina Templar PvP Build - "Vendetta" Getting a little bloodthirsty?

ItsNebula

Once again, another build a lot of people have been asking me about and what i run on my StamPlar... dont feel like going into details but if you have questions feel free to ask

Race;
(1) Redguard
(2) Orc
(3) Dark Elf

Mundus;
Warrior

Food;
Dubious Cameron

Monster Set;
x2 Engine Guardian

Body Set;
x5 Axiom Medium (Or Nocturnals Favor)

Weapon/Jewerly Set;
x5 Nocturnals Favor, Dual Axes and 2h + Jewerly (Or Axiom)

*IF* You cant afford to craft the jewerly in Purp/Gold then go RAVAGING

Traits/Enchants;
- Infused on Big Pieces with Tri-Stat and Impen on small pieces.
- Dual infused Axes with Oblivion dmg (OR x1 Nirn, x1 Sharpened and double DoT poisons)
- Nirn 2h with Return Stam

Skills;
Front bar DW - Jabs, Vigor, Rendering Slashes, Power of The Light and Quick Cloak - Dawnbreaker
Back bar 2h - Shuffle, repentance, Cleansing Ritual, Restoring Focus and Rally - Remembrance

CP is pretty much any basic StamPlar CP setup, just google it or do what fits your play style.

*FAQ*

Why Nocturnals Favor / What does the set do?
(2 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(5 items) Whenever you successfully Dodge, heal yourself for 4000. This effect can occur every 2 seconds.
Healing is LITERALLY no problem.. vigor, cleansing, rally tic/proc AND 2k EVERY 2 seconds.
The heal procs with dodge roll and shuffle dodge. Its an AMAZING set and not many people know about it.

Why Engine Guardian?
As a StamPlar, we use a LOT of Magicka AND Stamina skills, so have magicka is VERY important, especially to keep up with our cleanse.

Why Axiom?
Our jabs is our main source of dmg (Other than a DoT or two) and me personally, each jab can CRIT for about 2.2k (8.8k dmg in a set of 2) against your average and slight average player.

How do you live with no set that really gives the tanky feeling?
LOTS and LOTS of healing, dodging and cleansing!

Hope you like this build!

Waffennacht

Is there any way we can see the build in action?

Taleof2Cities

Waffennacht wrote: »

Is there any way we can see the build in action?

Yep, always helps to see the build working as intended ...

CyrusArya

Axiom doesn’t buff rending, bleeds, dawnbreaker, or heals.

Without a mit set you will get eaten alive in medium, and if not, will perform much worse than were you in one. A set that amounts to essentially a 1k/second hot isn’t “LOTS and LOTS of healing”.

Offensively, defensively, and in regards to sustain this is a bad build.

IZZEFlameLash

CyrusArya wrote: »

Axiom doesn’t buff rending, bleeds, dawnbreaker, or heals.

Without a mit set you will get eaten alive in medium, and if not, will perform much worse than were you in one. A set that amounts to essentially a 1k/second hot isn’t “LOTS and LOTS of healing”.

Offensively, defensively, and in regards to sustain this is a bad build.

Yeah, Axiom isn't beneficial. I agree with this assessment.

casparian

Automaton will do everything Axiom is going to do for Jabs, but also do it for all of your other damage.

I guess this is for no-CP? How do you deal with being focused/outnumbered in this build?

Solariken

Yeah Axiom is not ideal, I would use Automaton, Hunding's, or even Shacklebreaker instead.

Engine Guardian is also a dubious choice... It's awesome when you get the proc you need but often goes wasted. I miss the days when that little guy could be Repented - that was glorious. It's still good on ranged mag classes that can abuse the free LOS meat shield though.

Noctunal's Favor seems like an interesting set that I hope to get around to trying, although I would personally probably only pair it with Troll King, drop Vigor, and rely solely on Rally as a burst heal.

amir412

Bad build, too much rng. Sustain will be very bad, not to mention ur heals gonna suck cuz base wep dmg will be low.
Also u cannot proc noctural from shuffle, u will actually need to roll dodge now, which i dont really think the worst sustain class can maintain.

ItsNebula

amir412 wrote: »

Bad build, too much rng. Sustain will be very bad, not to mention ur heals gonna suck cuz base wep dmg will be low.
Also u cannot proc noctural from shuffle, u will actually need to roll dodge now, which i dont really think the worst sustain class can maintain.

It still procs from suffle. Base dmg is pretty high as well.
Its just one of those off meta builds that you actually need to learn to play with for it to be effective.

ItsNebula

Solariken wrote: »

Yeah Axiom is not ideal, I would use Automaton, Hunding's, or even Shacklebreaker instead.

Engine Guardian is also a dubious choice... It's awesome when you get the proc you need but often goes wasted. I miss the days when that little guy could be Repented - that was glorious. It's still good on ranged mag classes that can abuse the free LOS meat shield though.

Noctunal's Favor seems like an interesting set that I hope to get around to trying, although I would personally probably only pair it with Troll King, drop Vigor, and rely solely on Rally as a burst heal.

EG is good for StamPlar imo because we have important skills that cost magicka, cleansing being one i personally throw down every few seconds while ina fight.

Nocs favor could def work really, really well with TK, i just havent gotten around to trying it with TK quit yet tho, might do that sometime today

ItsNebula

casparian wrote: »

Automaton will do everything Axiom is going to do for Jabs, but also do it for all of your other damage.

I guess this is for no-CP? How do you deal with being focused/outnumbered in this build?

LOS, LOS, LOS and LOS.
This build is pretty bad in the open ill admit that, but with the speed and dmg and cleansing / constant and powerful heals it works out really.

Only reason i chose Axiom over Auto is for the extra max magicka, i like to be at a good 12k Magicka without having to run more than 2 Tri-Stat pieces on the body. (Im doing just Chest and legs now for Tri-Stat) and without Axiom we would be in the mid-high 10k's, other than that i woulda go Automaton

ItsNebula

CyrusArya wrote: »

Axiom doesn’t buff rending, bleeds, dawnbreaker, or heals.

Without a mit set you will get eaten alive in medium, and if not, will perform much worse than were you in one. A set that amounts to essentially a 1k/second hot isn’t “LOTS and LOTS of healing”.

Offensively, defensively, and in regards to sustain this is a bad build.

Only reason i go with Axiom over a set like Automatons is for the extra Magicka i hate being anything lower than 12k Magicka on Stam toons and 12k Stam on Mag toons. my vigor tooltip is about 14k fully buffed, then with the heal from Nocs and rally burst / tics it helps with healing, on top of the small 400 HoT from cleansin, and if EG procs health you got the heal from that.
TK would be much better for healing tho, but not as good for resource management

Personally i dont struggle with sustain as im able to burst most people down fast enough to grab a repentance from them, then with the return stam on the 2H for heavy attacks brings in a little more sustain.

Fighting against a group however with a good healer i wont win, as that i wont be able to sustain the dmg and keep up with stam management enough unless i can find a window on the healer and burst them down fast enough.

LOS is my best friend with this build as well, with the speed and a good spot to LOS it helps mit a lot of dmg that i wont want to or need to be taking.

There are def better builds out there leaning to the meta StamPlar.. or even the Meta StamPlar, but personally i hate meta anything, to easy to play with the meta, and its no fun because meta is to easy to play. Its meta for a reason, everything i run / build etc i always try to make it as far from meta as fun while making it effective for my play style or a specific play style whether it be a duel build, group build, solo build etc

casparian

ItsNebula wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Automaton will do everything Axiom is going to do for Jabs, but also do it for all of your other damage.

I guess this is for no-CP? How do you deal with being focused/outnumbered in this build?

LOS, LOS, LOS and LOS.
This build is pretty bad in the open ill admit that, but with the speed and dmg and cleansing / constant and powerful heals it works out really.

Only reason i chose Axiom over Auto is for the extra max magicka, i like to be at a good 12k Magicka without having to run more than 2 Tri-Stat pieces on the body. (Im doing just Chest and legs now for Tri-Stat) and without Axiom we would be in the mid-high 10k's, other than that i woulda go Automaton

So you're giving up 400 weapon damage on every one of your attacks but one for the sake of not having to make another tri-glyph? I don't get it, but I'm glad you have fun with the build.

ItsNebula

casparian wrote: »

ItsNebula wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Automaton will do everything Axiom is going to do for Jabs, but also do it for all of your other damage.

I guess this is for no-CP? How do you deal with being focused/outnumbered in this build?

LOS, LOS, LOS and LOS.
This build is pretty bad in the open ill admit that, but with the speed and dmg and cleansing / constant and powerful heals it works out really.

Only reason i chose Axiom over Auto is for the extra max magicka, i like to be at a good 12k Magicka without having to run more than 2 Tri-Stat pieces on the body. (Im doing just Chest and legs now for Tri-Stat) and without Axiom we would be in the mid-high 10k's, other than that i woulda go Automaton

So you're giving up 400 weapon damage on every one of your attacks but one for the sake of not having to make another tri-glyph? I don't get it, but I'm glad you have fun with the build.

Pretty much yes, i already deal enough dmg with this build, im able to stack up PoL pretty high as well..

Personally i hate anything meta (Like i said to Cyrus) and everything i run / think of i try to make it as far from meta as possible while making it effective for the play style im trying to play with.
Def better builds out there, but id say a good 90% of them are either meta, or very close to meta with the difference of either traits, monster sets or weps

Waffennacht

So, no videos?

ItsNebula

Waffennacht wrote: »

So, no videos?

I dont have any videos recorded with this build, no.

del9

Axiom isn’t the best choice if you are trying to boost both mag and stam abilities. Half of your dmg and heal abilities are unaffected. For hybrid effect you could go shackle+ pelinals.

In medium on Stamplar you really need either a sustain set or mitigation set. If you dont, you will be spending too much time kiting or defensive/dodging. Templar has a relatively long damage combo, so in med you need mitigation to have a long enough offensive window. You are vulnerable during jabs.

I appreciate the attempt to go off-meta but I don’t see how you can kill competent players with this build.

For anyone considering this build, save your mats/money and dont craft any of those sets’ jewels. Hundings would give more damage and healing- those crit stats are huge for healing too, which this buld lacks.

Waffennacht

ItsNebula wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

So, no videos?

I dont have any videos recorded with this build, no.

Will you make some?

Lord_Zele

I don't even know what to say about this build lol.
I like EG Tho.

DKsUnite

ItsNebula wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

ItsNebula wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Automaton will do everything Axiom is going to do for Jabs, but also do it for all of your other damage.

I guess this is for no-CP? How do you deal with being focused/outnumbered in this build?

LOS, LOS, LOS and LOS.
This build is pretty bad in the open ill admit that, but with the speed and dmg and cleansing / constant and powerful heals it works out really.

Only reason i chose Axiom over Auto is for the extra max magicka, i like to be at a good 12k Magicka without having to run more than 2 Tri-Stat pieces on the body. (Im doing just Chest and legs now for Tri-Stat) and without Axiom we would be in the mid-high 10k's, other than that i woulda go Automaton

So you're giving up 400 weapon damage on every one of your attacks but one for the sake of not having to make another tri-glyph? I don't get it, but I'm glad you have fun with the build.

Pretty much yes, i already deal enough dmg with this build, im able to stack up PoL pretty high as well..

Personally i hate anything meta (Like i said to Cyrus) and everything i run / think of i try to make it as far from meta as possible while making it effective for the play style im trying to play with.
Def better builds out there, but id say a good 90% of them are either meta, or very close to meta with the difference of either traits, monster sets or weps

I dont understand why you would gimp yourself so much though in the name of not being "close to meta"?