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[OFFICIAL ANSWER] Players can run multiple accounts at the same time

SiegeMerchant
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i think we can stop debates now
i got an answer

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you also need to check this thread, @Epona222
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Edited by SiegeMerchant on August 4, 2018 7:18AM
  • Emma_Overload
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    Best and clearest answer I've seen. Thanks!
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  • Azuramoonstar
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    did this need its own thread?
    also old news, most mmo let you run multiple accounts at once. Ppl in ff11 used to do a concept of duel boxing to power level characters.
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  • SiegeMerchant
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    did this need its own thread?
    also old news, most mmo let you run multiple accounts at once. Ppl in ff11 used to do a concept of duel boxing to power level characters.

    yes, because some users are so blatant and already two big topics was about it, when they start argue its a bannable offence lol
    like @Epona222
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    did this need its own thread?
    also old news, most mmo let you run multiple accounts at once. Ppl in ff11 used to do a concept of duel boxing to power level characters.

    Did the characters have a boxing duel in a ring or something? :D
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  • Azuramoonstar
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    Watchdog wrote: »
    did this need its own thread?
    also old news, most mmo let you run multiple accounts at once. Ppl in ff11 used to do a concept of duel boxing to power level characters.

    Did the characters have a boxing duel in a ring or something? :D

    typo but happy to get a laugh.

    i mean dual. :D
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  • Azuramoonstar
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    did this need its own thread?
    also old news, most mmo let you run multiple accounts at once. Ppl in ff11 used to do a concept of duel boxing to power level characters.

    yes, because some users are so blatant and already two big topics was about it, when they start argue its a bannable offence lol
    like @Epona222

    never read any MMO ToS that forbade it. ESO forums has some odd arguments. been playing mmo since 2004 and some of the threads i've seen making me scratch my head and wonder "how many mmo did people play"

    like the thread wanting an eso offline mode which is impossible to do.
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  • SiegeMerchant
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    will be nice to see a poll - how many accounts you have
  • Stinkyremy
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    How can you have 2 accounts running on the same computer? You cant run the eso launcher multiple times on one system.
  • Azuramoonstar
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    Stinkyremy wrote: »
    How can you have 2 accounts running on the same computer? You cant run the eso launcher multiple times on one system.

    most have 2 machine running the game on 2 separate accounts.
    which was, what the og thread that started this was about.
    Edited by Azuramoonstar on August 4, 2018 9:23AM
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  • Ghanima_Atreides
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    Stinkyremy wrote: »
    How can you have 2 accounts running on the same computer? You cant run the eso launcher multiple times on one system.

    Yes, you can, if you use shortcuts. Your computer will become very slow, but it is possible.
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  • Shadow-Fighter
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    Stinkyremy wrote: »
    How can you have 2 accounts running on the same computer? You cant run the eso launcher multiple times on one system.

    Yes, you can, if you use shortcuts. Your computer will become very slow, but it is possible.

    Or directly from eso.exe. no need to run from launcher
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  • adriant1978
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    I have two accounts and I've sometimes logged both in so that a character on one can port to character on the other. Good to know I won't get banned for this. :)
  • Elsonso
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    i think we can stop debates now
    i got an answer

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    you also need to check this thread, @Epona222
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    This confirms what Jessica said back in 2015. Thanks for getting a current update.
  • neverwalk
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    thanks for info.
  • Runs
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    At this point I think @ZOS_JessicaFolsom or @ZOS_GinaBruno needs to come in here and make an official statement. Jessica's is 3 years old and both responses seem to be more about inventory management.


    Running 12 accounts at the same time while one does all the work, level the other 11 and getting 11 extra drops is not quite the same thing. Allowing this is allowing gold and account sellers to openly do business.
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    Runs wrote: »
    At this point I think @ZOS_JessicaFolsom or @ZOS_GinaBruno needs to come in here and make an official statement. Jessica's is 3 years old and both responses seem to be more about inventory management.


    Running 12 accounts at the same time while one does all the work, level the other 11 and getting 11 extra drops is not quite the same thing. Allowing this is allowing gold and account sellers to openly do business.

    At this point, unless the image at the top of this thread is a fraud, there is little reason for them to come in here and repeat something that was said, and is apparently unchanged, since 2015.
  • Runs
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    Runs wrote: »
    At this point I think @ZOS_JessicaFolsom or @ZOS_GinaBruno needs to come in here and make an official statement. Jessica's is 3 years old and both responses seem to be more about inventory management.


    Running 12 accounts at the same time while one does all the work, level the other 11 and getting 11 extra drops is not quite the same thing. Allowing this is allowing gold and account sellers to openly do business.

    At this point, unless the image at the top of this thread is a fraud, there is little reason for them to come in here and repeat something that was said, and is apparently unchanged, since 2015.

    Except someone was just banned for doing exactly what I mentioned.
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  • SiegeMerchant
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    Runs wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    At this point I think @ZOS_JessicaFolsom or @ZOS_GinaBruno needs to come in here and make an official statement. Jessica's is 3 years old and both responses seem to be more about inventory management.


    Running 12 accounts at the same time while one does all the work, level the other 11 and getting 11 extra drops is not quite the same thing. Allowing this is allowing gold and account sellers to openly do business.

    At this point, unless the image at the top of this thread is a fraud, there is little reason for them to come in here and repeat something that was said, and is apparently unchanged, since 2015.

    Except someone was just banned for doing exactly what I mentioned.

    that ban its just coincidence, usually ZOs didnt ban for that, looks like alot ppl reported him
    same as my friend back in 2014 was banned because he had too many Kuta's in inventory
    he was re-seller, zos said its exploitation of economy and banned him
    but its just 1 example, very rare, and typically based on human error, zos support staff also not robots and they have their opinion
    Edited by SiegeMerchant on August 4, 2018 3:24PM
  • Xerikten
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    Stinkyremy wrote: »
    How can you have 2 accounts running on the same computer? You cant run the eso launcher multiple times on one system.

    every time i log in my launcher stays up so i can log in again if i want. it has been like this from day one over a year ago. for me to run two accounts on this game i would have to turn the graphics down really low as this game uses a lot of memory.

    i am not sure why anyone would want to "box" now days as far too many players equate boxing with botting just out of pure ignorance.
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    Runs wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    At this point I think @ZOS_JessicaFolsom or @ZOS_GinaBruno needs to come in here and make an official statement. Jessica's is 3 years old and both responses seem to be more about inventory management.


    Running 12 accounts at the same time while one does all the work, level the other 11 and getting 11 extra drops is not quite the same thing. Allowing this is allowing gold and account sellers to openly do business.

    At this point, unless the image at the top of this thread is a fraud, there is little reason for them to come in here and repeat something that was said, and is apparently unchanged, since 2015.

    Except someone was just banned for doing exactly what I mentioned.

    running 12 accounts and controlling each one of them individually? are you SURE he wasn't using some sort of software to turn the 11 follower accounts into bots? because individually controlling 12 accounts at a time is incredibly time consuming and can get confusing.. cause... you know 12 instances of the game and all. it can turn into somewhat a drag even with just 2 accounts on 2 separate PC's sitting side by side and having to switch between keyboards and screens constantly, since there isn't even a /follow command in ESO like there is in WoW, for example..
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  • thegreat_one
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    I would not complain if one person bought my product twice to help themselves.
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    Linaleah wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    At this point I think @ZOS_JessicaFolsom or @ZOS_GinaBruno needs to come in here and make an official statement. Jessica's is 3 years old and both responses seem to be more about inventory management.


    Running 12 accounts at the same time while one does all the work, level the other 11 and getting 11 extra drops is not quite the same thing. Allowing this is allowing gold and account sellers to openly do business.

    At this point, unless the image at the top of this thread is a fraud, there is little reason for them to come in here and repeat something that was said, and is apparently unchanged, since 2015.

    Except someone was just banned for doing exactly what I mentioned.

    running 12 accounts and controlling each one of them individually? are you SURE he wasn't using some sort of software to turn the 11 follower accounts into bots? because individually controlling 12 accounts at a time is incredibly time consuming and can get confusing.. cause... you know 12 instances of the game and all. it can turn into somewhat a drag even with just 2 accounts on 2 separate PC's sitting side by side and having to switch between keyboards and screens constantly, since there isn't even a /follow command in ESO like there is in WoW, for example..

    I've seen people do the multiple accounts for leveling thing. They go to a dense area with a central safe zone for mobs, park all but one account there in stealth, and then just control one account to run around and do the grinding. If all the accounts are grouped then they're sharing XP and loot, so you just alt-tab to every other account and grab bodies.

    Now, I'm reasonably certain last time this came up that that method was considered unacceptable and ban-worthy, but it's been literally years so I don't know. I DO know with absolute certainty that just logging onto multiple accounts is fine, and that the problem comes when you perform certain behaviors while logged in, like simultaneous play. Using alts to take screenshots of your main account characters and that sort of thing, though? Totally acceptable.
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  • Lexxypwns
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    This has always been the case. It’s ridiculous to expect anything other than this to be the case. Automation is illegal but if you own multiple accounts there’s no reason you can’t log into all of them and do anything that does not involve automation.

    I can’t believe people are in here trying to make up lies about how this used to be illegal either, I’ve literally done this since launch and it was specifically addressed prior to this post. These people shouldn’t be taken seriously.
    Edited by Lexxypwns on August 4, 2018 6:48PM
  • Tandor
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    will be nice to see a poll - how many accounts you have

    It would be pretty meaningless without a clear indication of how multiple accounts were used, at least in the context of this thread. I suspect a lot of players have a second account, but mostly for additional character slots either as mules or as individual characters, or else for other family members. I doubt many run both accounts together, and few of those that do would admit to it for fear of falling foul of the TOS.
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    Tandor wrote: »
    will be nice to see a poll - how many accounts you have

    It would be pretty meaningless without a clear indication of how multiple accounts were used, at least in the context of this thread. I suspect a lot of players have a second account, but mostly for additional character slots either as mules or as individual characters, or else for other family members. I doubt many run both accounts together, and few of those that do would admit to it for fear of falling foul of the TOS.

    Given what Jessica and Kevin have said, it is pretty easy to avoid falling afoul of things while being logged on simultaneously. :smile:
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    Tandor wrote: »
    will be nice to see a poll - how many accounts you have

    It would be pretty meaningless without a clear indication of how multiple accounts were used, at least in the context of this thread. I suspect a lot of players have a second account, but mostly for additional character slots either as mules or as individual characters, or else for other family members. I doubt many run both accounts together, and few of those that do would admit to it for fear of falling foul of the TOS.

    Given what Jessica and Kevin have said, it is pretty easy to avoid falling afoul of things while being logged on simultaneously. :smile:

    Not necessarily, it's all pretty uncertain and contradictory. Nothing Kevin said in the quote above rules out running a dungeon with two accounts so long as there's no third party programs involved (he specifically said that you can take several accounts online at the same time), while Jessica so far as I can recall said that if you were running multiple accounts simultaneously then it would be assumed that you were using third party programs - which isn't necessarily the case at all.

    Kevin's response is helpful, but it doesn't provide total clarity.

    Where I would say it is a lot easier in theory "to avoid falling afoul of things while being logged on simultaneously" is if you are running the accounts on separate machines, as it would be a lot harder for ZOS to prove that one person was running both accounts, or that they were being shared contrary to the TOS, but of course they don't need to prove anything as their word goes :wink: !

    It doesn't remotely bother me, or even relate to me (I have two accounts but pretty much never log them both in at the same time, they're simply for additional character slots for individual leveling purposes), but it is something that from time to time people celebrate having been clarified when actually it hasn't been fully clarified at all!
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    Looks like as long as you alone and are controlling both its ok if they are online together?

    So farming chests and world bosses etc for loot while your two accounts are active... is that acceptable? I feel this is a little dodgy. Even though you arent ysing any third party software and all input would have to come from you.

    That could almost make it worthwhile to me to buy another tbh.

    Even just store all the boe sets on the mule account.

    And i would finally have a friend. Since my IRL sex doll wife isnt capable of moving, speaking or playing pc games.
    Edited by Haquor on August 4, 2018 10:38PM
  • SteveCampsOut
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    Runs wrote: »
    At this point I think @ZOS_JessicaFolsom or @ZOS_GinaBruno needs to come in here and make an official statement. Jessica's is 3 years old and both responses seem to be more about inventory management.


    Running 12 accounts at the same time while one does all the work, level the other 11 and getting 11 extra drops is not quite the same thing. Allowing this is allowing gold and account sellers to openly do business.

    At this point, unless the image at the top of this thread is a fraud, there is little reason for them to come in here and repeat something that was said, and is apparently unchanged, since 2015.

    That's actually covered where it says you can't run 3rd party software to operate the extra accounts in sync and there's no way they'd survive battles just standing around.
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    I used to quad-box in WoW and RIFT. Both games are much better optimized than this one (which is a mem and cpu hog - not to mention bandwidth).

    I never needed to use anything other than /follow. Of course, I wasn't trying to make the other three help my max level toon fight anything either! Wasn't necessary - just dragged them along to get xp and gear....
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    I think allowing multiple accounts opens them up to Automation anyway.. think both should be bannable, unless two different ips are detected it should not be allowed..

    But hey its not my call.
    Edited by DanteYoda on August 5, 2018 12:12AM
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