Dwarven Plans

Ravenson

To put it succinctly, these are far too rare and the drop rate should be increased or they should be added to furnishing envelopes. I realize this is likely a common refrain, but allow me to add my experience to it. I have for months farmed Dwarven ruins (Public Dungeons and Delves) multiple times a day most days. It is true I took about a month off to farm the Alinor plans, but with the exception of that it has been a constant farm. I have even had multiple people assist me in this endeavor. In that time, I have had three or four purple drops one of which was a duplicate. At the present drop rate it would take me another two years (optimistic estimate) of farming to find the remaining recipes.

I have yet to see the Dwarven Table, Refined; Dwarven Table, Assembly; Dwarven Sconce, Barred, Dwarven Chandelier, Braced; Dwarven Chandelier, Barred; or the Dwarven Platform, Steps. These plans are sufficiently rare that a daily trek to TTC has not turned anything up either. Though to be fair, I did spot the Dwarven Sconce, Barred once. It was listed for five million gold.

The Gods know I don't mind a good farm; one could say it is all that I do in this game, but this is absurd.

Aliyavana

And nerf dwemer frame requirements

Starlock

I agree with both of @Ravenson and @Aliyavana here. In every Elder Scrolls game, I at some point make an artificer who is obsessed with the Dwemer (or one themselves). When Dwemer furniture plans came out, I was so excited! That excitement was crushed when I found out they plans were not only functionally impossible to get on my own, but functionally impossible to craft in any quantity due to the material requirements.

The developers have gotten better about style material requirements in furnishing recipes with recent releases. This needs to be retroactively applied to Dwemer plans. They should all require one or two frames; a simple urn should NOT require 12 (!!!) frames.

B0SSzombie

I wonder if the majority of people who know Blue and Purple quality Dwarven Furnishings got them from the random Master Writ Vendor Purchases? Didn't most of the Dwarven furnishings come out with Morrowind's release?

And as for the Material problem, why not make it so the furnishings require Dwemer SCRAP instead of Frames?

Ravenson

B0SSzombie wrote: »

I wonder if the majority of people who know Blue and Purple quality Dwarven Furnishings got them from the random Master Writ Vendor Purchases? Didn't most of the Dwarven furnishings come out with Morrowind's release?

And as for the Material problem, why not make it so the furnishings require Dwemer SCRAP instead of Frames?

So far as I know, the Dwarven plans do not drop from the Master Writ Envelopes. They were included on the PTS for the new Morrowind Envelopes but that somehow changed before it went live. The only way, at present, to get them is an insane amount of farming mixed with an equally insane amount of good luck.

I think adding them to the envelopes would be a great solution, and I agree with you on the materials requirement.

Sticky_Paws

Honestly, 50 % of ps4 dwarven housing prints look rusted and garbage like. They used to have a two toned shine to them, and one such update many moons ago it broke. I've put messages in the forums about it before, and to my knowlegde the only one repaired was the boiler with its missing panels and missing steam plumes.
Now if the tech team would go back and look at the rest of the items I have in my inventory they'd see why its no longer a desired knowledge base for me. I'd really like to feel the other way on this, and see the frame cost go down as well as well as the drop rate increase just a bit.

Off the top of my head, broken texture items:
Dwarven bowl forged
Dwarven chalice/ goblet

I know there are more but I'm away from the console.

Mix

Agreed! Make the plans drop more often or add a Dwarven Master Furniture Document for purple dwarven plans to make it possible to get them all.

Also, a reduction in the amount of Dwemer Frames per item is desperately needed. 1 Frame for green and blue and 2 for purple items would be amazing!

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Ravenson wrote: »

So far as I know, the Dwarven plans do not drop from the Master Writ Envelopes. They were included on the PTS for the new Morrowind Envelopes but that somehow changed before it went live.

That was requested because along with including the Dwemer furnishing recipes, they ALSO included the Daedric furnishings.

It would be nice if Dwemer had their own envelope though.

Gilvoth

they are suppose to be "Rare"
they cant be rare if everyone can find them easily.

B0SSzombie

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

they are suppose to be "Rare"
they cant be rare if everyone can find them easily.

But SOMEONE should find them, right?

On PS4, I've NEVER seen ANYONE with ANY of the Blue quality Dwarven Urns. Outside of Crown Store Purchases.

Ravenson

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

they are suppose to be "Rare"
they cant be rare if everyone can find them easily.

Rare is one thing, and I agree that they should be rare, it is quite another if a month goes by without seeing even one of five recipes listed on TTC. That isn't rare, my friend, that is nonexistent.

B0SSzombie

Does it say something that in all the time I've spent in Dwarven Ruins, I've never seen any furnishing plan that was higher quality than Green, but just found a Purple Quality Plan (Dwarven Platform, Steps) in a Cabinet in Vvardenfell?

The_Protagonist

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

they are suppose to be "Rare"
they cant be rare if everyone can find them easily.

If they are rare then only NPCs should know it and not players, otherwise it will not be rare anymore and everyone will have a replica. You should know you are a @dwemer_paleologist