10 Dwarven Crates in this month's daily rewards

Recremen

griffkhalifa wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't open gambling boxes, even free ones, so I'm not exactly on the edge of my seat over here. I hope they go back to one guaranteed pet as one of the drops.

Well that makes no sense. It's not a gambling box if it's free.

@griffkhalifa

The overall system is still gambling and to use any of the cosmetics from them, even if you got them out of the free boxes, tacitly supports the system and drives demand by being free in-game advertising. Overall these are still gambling boxes, even if they're giving away free samples, and I'm just not going to be a part of that.

weedgenius

Kalik_Gold wrote: »

Where can I see what Dwarven crates drop compared to Psjic or current season? Do I have to look back thru Crown store updates, or something else?

@Kalik_Gold

weedgenius wrote: »

Here's a refresher on what you might be able to get this month: http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Dwarven_Crate

Waffennacht

Recremen wrote: »

griffkhalifa wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't open gambling boxes, even free ones, so I'm not exactly on the edge of my seat over here. I hope they go back to one guaranteed pet as one of the drops.

Well that makes no sense. It's not a gambling box if it's free.

@griffkhalifa

The overall system is still gambling and to use any of the cosmetics from them, even if you got them out of the free boxes, tacitly supports the system and drives demand by being free in-game advertising. Overall these are still gambling boxes, even if they're giving away free samples, and I'm just not going to be a part of that.

That's cool man.

I just use the free ones myself, and it's not like I could have your stuff anyway.

I personally like em, but I was also a professional gambler, so like gambling isn't a bad word to me

Recremen

Waffennacht wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

griffkhalifa wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't open gambling boxes, even free ones, so I'm not exactly on the edge of my seat over here. I hope they go back to one guaranteed pet as one of the drops.

Well that makes no sense. It's not a gambling box if it's free.

@griffkhalifa

The overall system is still gambling and to use any of the cosmetics from them, even if you got them out of the free boxes, tacitly supports the system and drives demand by being free in-game advertising. Overall these are still gambling boxes, even if they're giving away free samples, and I'm just not going to be a part of that.

That's cool man.

I just use the free ones myself, and it's not like I could have your stuff anyway.

I personally like em, but I was also a professional gambler, so like gambling isn't a bad word to me

I don't think gambling is automatically bad, but its incorporation into completely unrelated entertainment industries is extremely troubling to me for the long-term health of both people and the economy. Normal gambling, risking money for more money, is itself a straightforward process whereby the risk itself is the entertainment. We don't have that here.

For ESO the game itself is the entertainment. The absolute primary driving force behind monetizing via the gambling boxes is to leverage the addictive process of gambling to drive more revenue than people would otherwise be willing to spend. The risk thrill is not part of the original game, was never part of the Elder Scrolls branding, and competed directly with existing ESO content-monetization systems (the cash shop). The use of currency as a service ("Crowns"), the inclusion of useless consolation prizes (potions, poisons, etc.) and the implementation of a second service currency ("Crown Gems") are all designed to circumvent current gambling regulations while maintaining and even enhancing the addictive principles which caused gambling to be so regulated in the first place.

Because of this reliance on disease-related behavior (addiction), they are also dismantling normal price signaling systems, which is part of the foundation of how our economy works. We need consumers to be rational actors, and we need to guard against conscious efforts to subvert our rationalism by leveraging such disease-related behavior. It's the same principle driving laws against things like false advertising or bait and switch. Such undermining of the tender workings of a market economy is, long-term, an extremely destabilizing force. It's only affecting the gaming industry for now, but unless the legal landscape changes we could see similar efforts to overhaul the delivery of even non-digital goods. After all, if there's nothing wrong with it at this level, why not extend the principle to all other areas of the economy?