Someone explain this to me (NON CP BG)

Nyladreas · July 2018

How? Just How? 6 people couldn't kill him.

Also blew like 10 fears on him, never worked.

Not sure whats happening here... Look at the damage too. He was actually killing another templar heal/tank standing next to me and this guy shown in pic.

Excuse the quality, currently traveling with a crappy laptop.

Elwendryll · July 2018

60k health? Hmm, now I want to theorycraft to see if I can get this number in non-cp xD

Nyladreas · July 2018

Elwendryll wrote: »

60k health? Hmm, now I want to theorycraft to see if I can get this number in non-cp xD

He was completely unkillable... healing his teammates and still could kill others, that's what baffles me the most... I have no words...

Elwendryll · July 2018

I can get this number without cp xD
http://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=77160

So, it's definitely possible, I could even go higher with a full health food. Templars have a shield based on max health that deals damages based on the amount absorbed, so stacking health is useful to them.

ArchonLucien · July 2018

By the name, i would assume he is used to being hammered

Nyladreas · July 2018

Elwendryll wrote: »

I can get this number without cp xD
http://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=77160

thats insane lol.

Get this on Chaos ball and Relics and you can pretty much just wait till its over.

[Edited for real world religious reference]

Qbiken · July 2018

Hmm, is that a blazing shieldplar I see? Thought those were extinct by now. Nice to see that some people still practice the ancient art of this playstyle

Thogard · July 2018

Probably a Duroks blazeplar.

Just don’t attack him. All of his dmg is based on him receiving dmg. If you leave him alone he can’t do much.

Elwendryll · July 2018

Nyladreas wrote: »

Get this on Chaos ball and Relics and you can pretty much just wait till its over.

Yes. You could be quite unkillable if you build for it. But you can also make a build that could kill that. I would look up some sets like knight slayer that deals oblivion and %health based damages.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Knight+Slayer+Set

This is clearly intended to deal with this kind of builds. Am I brave enough to recommend someone using Sload's Semblance on the forum? I don't know. But the latter was originally designed for this kind of builds.

Nyladreas · July 2018

Elwendryll wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

Get this on Chaos ball and Relics and you can pretty much just wait till its over.

Yes. You could be quite unkillable if you build for it. But you can also make a build that could kill that. I would look up some sets like knight slayer that deals oblivion and %health based damages.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Knight+Slayer+Set

This is clearly intended to deal with this kind of builds. Am I brave enough to recommend someone using Sload's Semblance on the forum? I don't know. But the latter was originally designed for this kind of builds.

I dont think sload was ever designed to deal with this kind of builds. Its a common misconception. Anyone can use it vs anyone, without any limitations whatsoever. If sload had a similar triggering requirement it'd be a different story. This way that set just affects squishies as well as tanks in a very very very very unfair way as it does the same damage regardless of your healthpool/defenses.

Also, thank you for the advice.

Elwendryll · July 2018

Nyladreas wrote: »

I dont think sload was ever designed to deal with this kind of builds. Its a common misconception. Anyone can use it vs anyone, without any limitations whatsoever.

baratron wrote: »

Changes announced by Eric Wrobel, Lead Combat Designer, on yesterday's ESO Live (2018-07-20, watch it here)

Sload's Semblance was designed to be useful against Heavy Armor Tank builds who are hard to kill, hence it does Oblivion damage which cuts through Heavy Armor and shielding. However it's unambiguously better against all armor types. So the number of ticks has been reduced. To combat the situation where people get lots of Sload's stacks at once, there is now a visual cue that the projectile is starting so you can roll-dodge the effect or start pre-casting heals or damage shields. This cue looks like a like a sload's attack, and "gives you a lot of strategic options".

Well, maybe you don't think that, but I clearly heard Wrobel say that it was designed to deal with heavy armor builds during the stream, and that it was not really intended that it's unambiguously better against any type of armor. I hardly see how my comments can be seen as a 'misconception', that's not an opinion, just the official statement from the devs.

Anyway, Blazing shield Templars were thought to be an extincted specie, so, it's not really worth changing your build to deal with it.

TheDarkShadow · July 2018

It's not him who killed your teammate. It was you and others that killed him by keep attacking the blazing shield templar. Without anyone attacking, or everyone stay at range, the blazing shield templar have no damage, no sustain.

Jeremy · July 2018

Nyladreas wrote: »

Elwendryll wrote: »

60k health? Hmm, now I want to theorycraft to see if I can get this number in non-cp xD

He was completely unkillable... healing his teammates and still could kill others, that's what baffles me the most... I have no words...

It baffles me as well.

I don't understand how a Templar could have that much health and defense and still operate as an effective healer and damage dealer.

My Templar only has 50k health - uses blazing shield - and a lot of times I don't even bother healing as it just empties my MP pool for meager gains and my damage is certainly nothing amazing. So I'd like to know his secret too.

I've come across these Templars a couple of times in Cyrodil myself. They are rare - but you notice it when they show up. There has to be something else at play otherwise more Templars would be doing it.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

Elwendryll wrote: »

Well, maybe you don't think that, but I clearly heard Wrobel say that it was designed to deal with heavy armor builds during the stream, and that it was not really intended that it's unambiguously better against any type of armor. I hardly see how my comments can be seen as a 'misconception', that's not an opinion, just the official statement from the devs.

That's because we have cooldowns that are longer than the period of time they actually thought about this set. If it scaled up based on enemy armor class, it would actually work as intended without burning those with less armor.

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

It's not him who killed your teammate. It was you and others that killed him by keep attacking the blazing shield templar. Without anyone attacking, or everyone stay at range, the blazing shield templar have no damage, no sustain.

This. You can damage all day long, but you don't have to be in his lap in the process. You're going to have to seriously focus fire and CC/Stun for all your worth when he allows it, but it can be done.

Feanor · July 2018

Surround yourself with solar rays, granting a damage shield equal to 30% of your Max Health for 6 seconds. Each nearby enemy increases the shield's strength by 4% when the shield is activated. When the shield expires it explodes outward, dealing [33 / 36 / 39 / 42]% of the damage it absorbed to nearby enemies.

It's really not different than the 1.4 DKs that used dynamic ult gen to their advantage. As 10+ people were attacking (without using CC most times) they just held block and had their ult up in 5 seconds. And then Bats Bats Bats... People didn't get they just fed the DK all the attacking power. If you timed the attacks with CC you could run the DK out of stamina and so he couldn't hold up block, which led to death. Unfortunately this led to the ruination of DKs for a long time as people called for nerfs.

Same story here. Sun Shield was nerfed long ago just because of High HP Blazeplars. The issue here is that CTR and Chaos Ball are so badly designed that you can't ignore the Blazeplar holding the objective, and such have to feed him. It's an issue of these BG modes rather than the build used. As has been said, Blazing Shield has a radius of 5 meters. Stay out and nothing happens.

PouletRico · July 2018

Happens all the time on Chaosball BGs

zaria · July 2018

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

It's not him who killed your teammate. It was you and others that killed him by keep attacking the blazing shield templar. Without anyone attacking, or everyone stay at range, the blazing shield templar have no damage, no sustain.

But he uses taunt on us

Apache_Kid · July 2018

I love how the responses are "just don't attack him" when its a chaosball match lmfaoooo

Nyladreas · August 2018

Nyladreas wrote: »

Elwendryll wrote: »

I can get this number without cp xD
http://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=77160

[Edited for real world religious reference]

WTF? The hell did I write that some mod assumingly found referring to religion even in the slightest?

This assumption is heavily insulting.

JaZ2091 · August 2018

Spam stuns on them. Faced them before, they have little Stamina to break and have to lay there getting hammered, but it requires your team ganging up on them.

Slack · August 2018

Harbinger set maybe?
Would make sense with the healthpool

Avnr · August 2018

My Warden tank have 62k , saw in ic (non cp)warden 77k hp no idea how(was not blue ic armor)

Was farming BSW with my tank and by mistake I picked BG instead

agter the first run I changed green pact to Sload heavy full hp and resist , got around 50k hp...

That was super fun to tank all and get kills , huge damage and heal

Not entered again... no challenge here

Both stam and mag wardens super tanky with 20k damage average...
I don't need group can solo most dungeons