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Can you please stop putting players into auto lose matches?
Troneon
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Many times now, I join random BG's and get thrown into a match that is almost over with no hope of even coming close to winning.
Enemy team 400+ points, other teams under 100 still....match is been going on for a while...
I still get thrown into the match from group finder tool after waiting, going through loading screens, even though it's basically over and always on the losing team or with no one on the team...
Plz fix ffs.
Enemy team 400+ points, other teams under 100 still....match is been going on for a while...
I still get thrown into the match from group finder tool after waiting, going through loading screens, even though it's basically over and always on the losing team or with no one on the team...
Plz fix ffs.
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.11 -
Pink_Violinz✭✭✭✭✭Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
You don't lose the coffer. You can just run again.
EDIT: In point of fact, I lost my first Battleground today, and ended up with Swords after my second attempt.Edited by starkerealm on July 27, 2018 8:42AM5 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
That makes no sense. The debuff timer is MORE time than the BG! You just do the best you can and requeue faster and hope you get 1/2 place next time!
You can go as many times as you want until you place.
It also doesn't hurt to consider that you may be the one holding the team back and learn to work on that if so.Edited by Mureel on July 27, 2018 8:44AM3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
Because people play to win and seting people up to fail pisses them off?1 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
What's more problematic is players losing because they don't run objectives.
And that thinking is inherently flawed, because by time the deserter debuff is over, you could've run two matches. You are wasting more time than saving time.4 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
That makes no sense. The debuff timer is MORE time than the BG! You just do the best you can and requeue faster and hope you get 1/2 place next time!
You can go as many times as you want until you place.
It also doesn't hurt to consider that you may be the one holding the team back and learn to work on that if so.
*Edited to add: You cannot just run around in BG and pop mutagen. If you are just healing (only saying IF you are) - then yeah, you're getting a carry every time.
I recommend seeking a tanky PVP damage build for your templar or whatever you play.1 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
Because people play to win and seting people up to fail pisses them off?
Can't have it both ways. Is it playing to win, or setting up people to fail?
*note, there will always be a last place team. Nothing stops that. Not everyone will win.Edited by Kel on July 27, 2018 8:51AM1 -
Pink_Violinz✭✭✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
That makes no sense. The debuff timer is MORE time than the BG! You just do the best you can and requeue faster and hope you get 1/2 place next time!
You can go as many times as you want until you place.
It also doesn't hurt to consider that you may be the one holding the team back and learn to work on that if so.
In my experience, I have never received a daily reward coffer if my first match was in last place. Even if the next match we go on to get first, I have never received the daily coffer. After multiple attempts in several days on multiple characters I still got nothing if that first match wasn't first or second. Plus, it's not as if I'm leaving the very second we aren't top. I only leave if the match is over midway done and there's a 0% chance of winning. I don't need ap, so I don't gain anything from throwing corpses at some people.
If I start with that team, I'm going to see it out. I'm very twitchy in battlegrounds and my anxiety gets particularly bad in there. No need to get so hostile.
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✭✭✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
That makes no sense. The debuff timer is MORE time than the BG! You just do the best you can and requeue faster and hope you get 1/2 place next time!
You can go as many times as you want until you place.
It also doesn't hurt to consider that you may be the one holding the team back and learn to work on that if so.
In my experience, I have never received a daily reward coffer if my first match was in last place. Even if the next match we go on to get first, I have never received the daily coffer. After multiple attempts in several days on multiple characters I still got nothing if that first match wasn't first or second. Plus, it's not as if I'm leaving the very second we aren't top. I only leave if the match is over midway done and there's a 0% chance of winning. I don't need ap, so I don't gain anything from throwing corpses at some people.
If I start with that team, I'm going to see it out. I'm very twitchy in battlegrounds and my anxiety gets particularly bad in there. No need to get so hostile.
That's weird, and unintended. As I said, I got my daily coffer today, and I got my teeth cleaned in my first match of the day.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
That makes no sense. The debuff timer is MORE time than the BG! You just do the best you can and requeue faster and hope you get 1/2 place next time!
You can go as many times as you want until you place.
It also doesn't hurt to consider that you may be the one holding the team back and learn to work on that if so.
In my experience, I have never received a daily reward coffer if my first match was in last place. Even if the next match we go on to get first, I have never received the daily coffer. After multiple attempts in several days on multiple characters I still got nothing if that first match wasn't first or second. Plus, it's not as if I'm leaving the very second we aren't top. I only leave if the match is over midway done and there's a 0% chance of winning. I don't need ap, so I don't gain anything from throwing corpses at some people.
If I start with that team, I'm going to see it out. I'm very twitchy in battlegrounds and my anxiety gets particularly bad in there. No need to get so hostile.
I'd write a ticket, because that is a bug. You not only get a coffer for first place, but you get it for second place as well. You don't get it for coming in third place, only first or second.
You also have to queue for a random daily, so if you just queue for deathmatch (or whatever type you play) you don't get the coffer.
As far as the coffer goes, you absolutely don't have to place first or second in the first match you play. There have been times it's taken me 5 matches or more to get second place, yet I still got my coffer.
If you're not, that's a bug...report that.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
That makes no sense. The debuff timer is MORE time than the BG! You just do the best you can and requeue faster and hope you get 1/2 place next time!
You can go as many times as you want until you place.
It also doesn't hurt to consider that you may be the one holding the team back and learn to work on that if so.
In my experience, I have never received a daily reward coffer if my first match was in last place. Even if the next match we go on to get first, I have never received the daily coffer. After multiple attempts in several days on multiple characters I still got nothing if that first match wasn't first or second. Plus, it's not as if I'm leaving the very second we aren't top. I only leave if the match is over midway done and there's a 0% chance of winning. I don't need ap, so I don't gain anything from throwing corpses at some people.
If I start with that team, I'm going to see it out. I'm very twitchy in battlegrounds and my anxiety gets particularly bad in there. No need to get so hostile.
I'd write a ticket, because that is a bug. You not only get a coffer for first place, but you get it for second place as well. You don't get it for coming in third place, only first or second.
You also have to queue for a random daily, so if you just queue for deathmatch (or whatever type you play) you don't get the coffer.
As far as the coffer goes, you absolutely don't have to place first or second in the first match you play. There have been times it's taken me 5 matches or more to get second place, yet I still got my coffer.
If you're not, that's a bug...report that.
I suppose it's possible that @Pink_Violinz is queuing for a random, then after that queuing for specific modes. That would block you from getting the coffer, but it'd be a hell of their own making.2 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Pink_Violinz wrote: »Pink_Violinz wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
If you're doing a random daily for motifs then it's problematic. Whenever that happens I just leave and live with the timer. I can't waste a day's coffer on a losing group
That makes no sense. The debuff timer is MORE time than the BG! You just do the best you can and requeue faster and hope you get 1/2 place next time!
You can go as many times as you want until you place.
It also doesn't hurt to consider that you may be the one holding the team back and learn to work on that if so.
In my experience, I have never received a daily reward coffer if my first match was in last place. Even if the next match we go on to get first, I have never received the daily coffer. After multiple attempts in several days on multiple characters I still got nothing if that first match wasn't first or second. Plus, it's not as if I'm leaving the very second we aren't top. I only leave if the match is over midway done and there's a 0% chance of winning. I don't need ap, so I don't gain anything from throwing corpses at some people.
If I start with that team, I'm going to see it out. I'm very twitchy in battlegrounds and my anxiety gets particularly bad in there. No need to get so hostile.
Bug report then, because I get my coffer every day- even if I'm on a stinker of a team the first time.
I think pretty much everyone would agree I am not being hostile. Please keep your pointy fingers to yourself.
In fact, I cannot believe you think anything in any of my comments was hostile (I really went back and read them).
I dislike when people do what you did there.
I went out of my way to be nice to you, even though I find it utterly rude and unsportsmanly/womanly to just ditch people mid match, and explain that you were incorrect and why, and you call me hostile.
You're basically 'ragequitting' on people every time you do that. Maybe without the rage, but still.
This is why people don't like to answer certain people. You get a finger pointed at you for nothing, when they are the one being a bit unreasonable about the whole thing.
Your issues with anxiety within a game aren't my or anyone else's fault. You do not HAVE to play battlegrounds - so if it is that distressing that you trash everyone else's time, I don't know what to say.
Best wishes.Edited by Mureel on July 27, 2018 9:47AM3 -
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✭✭It's annoying going up against a premade with a pocket healer. Im even more pissed when someone leave the group and bails. They deserve that penalty.1 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Many times now, I join random BG's and get thrown into a match that is almost over with no hope of even coming close to winning.
Enemy team 400+ points, other teams under 100 still....match is been going on for a while...
I still get thrown into the match from group finder tool after waiting, going through loading screens, even though it's basically over and always on the losing team or with no one on the team...
Plz fix ffs.
That happened to me literally first time yesterday- I got queued into a last place team - literally sth like 15 points vs top team with near 400....we managed to surpass the middle team and take 2nd - and tbh, the pug worked so well together once I (or maybe even there was another who came in too right before me - I don't know) got in, I've no idea how they were so far behind!
That said, when I got in I was like what the what? How?
Yeah that really stinks.0 -
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✭Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
Or, you get stuck in a loading screen like I was for the whole match, followed by a 20-minute penalty. I was grouped with my wife and she was in the battle with 3 others.... This game sometimes...
On the other hand, yesterday was the first time that I have quit in the midst of a fight.
NOT because we we're losing (I don't mind), BUT because 1 group member started to harras and blame the other 3 for losing.
So I said F this and took the 20 minutes.Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
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✭✭✭✭Load screen penalties are definitely BS.
'Presence' shouldn't even trigger until you've actually landed.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS2 -
Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »Look at it this way...you'll be in the match for maybe 30 seconds to a minute, and you'll earn 7k AP, for doing next to nothing and be able to queue again straight away.
I always wondered why someone drops out of battlegrounds. You'll never win everytime, especially in a pug, and you get more AP than taking a keep in Cyrodiil even coming in last. Plus, you get a 20 minute non-queue debuff. I don't think Zos needs to fix anything, I think players need to do a better job of taking a L.
Or, you get stuck in a loading screen like I was for the whole match, followed by a 20-minute penalty. I was grouped with my wife and she was in the battle with 3 others.... This game sometimes...
On the other hand, yesterday was the first time that I have quit in the midst of a fight.
NOT because we we're losing (I don't mind), BUT because 1 group member started to harras and blame the other 3 for losing.
So I said F this and took the 20 minutes.
Yeah in that regard I'd have done the same - or even possibly feed kills to the middle team... depending on how much they annoyed me.
Once, I was guarding relic and just reapplying caltrops and mines - and I got a warning that I'd be kicked so I roll dodge - no one came for our relic for awhile, because when they had tried, they got their lunch packed, and the rest of team was lol to the dead bodies laying at the relic when they ran in!
Eventually they quit trying, so I wasn't doing much....
The area around the relic should not count as inactive when you're there, because you are doing something!
You maybe get a lower personal score, but never letting anyone take yours means people can always fast run them in, and that's a win.0