Pve has lag too, just saying lol
And the lag hasn't always been there. It was introduced with the lighting patch (1.5?) Though they deny that. Before that patch we had 500v500v500 in pvp woth insanely large scale battles and very minimal lag.
webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
LegendaryMage wrote: »webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
Dueling would be much more fun if it was like it was years ago in Cyro.
Sure, there were imbalances but people were genuinely having fun. Builds were important even then, but the game had many more counter-mechanics and builds were generally easier on the game.
Now it's complete extremes where you have to have a 100% dedicated build to counter the very next guy because he's doing it too.
The community doesn't want to bother, my guild has organized more tournaments on PC EU than probably most megaservers combined, and I can tell you it's an epic hassle and not worth it in the long run.
We need Zenimax to back us up here and stop trying to go around everything and somehow make it work on our own.
Moba style matches, I don't see that happening in ESO, BGs are the closest thing to that. Cyro will not significantly change for a long time (if ever, it's been 4 years now) and all we're left with is;
1. BGs.
2. Possible PVP Arenas with 1v1, 2v2, 4v4 modes.
3. Larger Scale BGs (8v8 maybe).
4. Open World PVP that was supposed to be introduced with the justice system, but we all know how that went.
So at this point, I'm like, whatever, forget about Cyro, let's just focus on what 'could' work.
LegendaryMage wrote: »webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
Dueling would be much more fun if it was like it was years ago in Cyro.
Sure, there were imbalances but people were genuinely having fun. Builds were important even then, but the game had many more counter-mechanics and builds were generally easier on the game.
Now it's complete extremes where you have to have a 100% dedicated build to counter the very next guy because he's doing it too.
The community doesn't want to bother, my guild has organized more tournaments on PC EU than probably most megaservers combined, and I can tell you it's an epic hassle and not worth it in the long run.
We need Zenimax to back us up here and stop trying to go around everything and somehow make it work on our own.
Moba style matches, I don't see that happening in ESO, BGs are the closest thing to that. Cyro will not significantly change for a long time (if ever, it's been 4 years now) and all we're left with is;
1. BGs.
2. Possible PVP Arenas with 1v1, 2v2, 4v4 modes.
3. Larger Scale BGs (8v8 maybe).
4. Open World PVP that was supposed to be introduced with the justice system, but we all know how that went.
So at this point, I'm like, whatever, forget about Cyro, let's just focus on what 'could' work.
Carebears have to care. even if they get a toggle to not partake.
LegendaryMage wrote: »webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
Dueling would be much more fun if it was like it was years ago in Cyro.
Sure, there were imbalances but people were genuinely having fun. Builds were important even then, but the game had many more counter-mechanics and builds were generally easier on the game.
Now it's complete extremes where you have to have a 100% dedicated build to counter the very next guy because he's doing it too.
The community doesn't want to bother, my guild has organized more tournaments on PC EU than probably most megaservers combined, and I can tell you it's an epic hassle and not worth it in the long run.
We need Zenimax to back us up here and stop trying to go around everything and somehow make it work on our own.
Moba style matches, I don't see that happening in ESO, BGs are the closest thing to that. Cyro will not significantly change for a long time (if ever, it's been 4 years now) and all we're left with is;
1. BGs.
2. Possible PVP Arenas with 1v1, 2v2, 4v4 modes.
3. Larger Scale BGs (8v8 maybe).
4. Open World PVP that was supposed to be introduced with the justice system, but we all know how that went.
So at this point, I'm like, whatever, forget about Cyro, let's just focus on what 'could' work.
Knootewoot wrote: »LegendaryMage wrote: »webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
Dueling would be much more fun if it was like it was years ago in Cyro.
Sure, there were imbalances but people were genuinely having fun. Builds were important even then, but the game had many more counter-mechanics and builds were generally easier on the game.
Now it's complete extremes where you have to have a 100% dedicated build to counter the very next guy because he's doing it too.
The community doesn't want to bother, my guild has organized more tournaments on PC EU than probably most megaservers combined, and I can tell you it's an epic hassle and not worth it in the long run.
We need Zenimax to back us up here and stop trying to go around everything and somehow make it work on our own.
Moba style matches, I don't see that happening in ESO, BGs are the closest thing to that. Cyro will not significantly change for a long time (if ever, it's been 4 years now) and all we're left with is;
1. BGs.
2. Possible PVP Arenas with 1v1, 2v2, 4v4 modes.
3. Larger Scale BGs (8v8 maybe).
4. Open World PVP that was supposed to be introduced with the justice system, but we all know how that went.
So at this point, I'm like, whatever, forget about Cyro, let's just focus on what 'could' work.
Sad to say, but I think you are right. Sadly I only started ESO because I wanted a game with massive keep sieges and massive 3-way battles.
LegendaryMage wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »LegendaryMage wrote: »webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
Dueling would be much more fun if it was like it was years ago in Cyro.
Sure, there were imbalances but people were genuinely having fun. Builds were important even then, but the game had many more counter-mechanics and builds were generally easier on the game.
Now it's complete extremes where you have to have a 100% dedicated build to counter the very next guy because he's doing it too.
The community doesn't want to bother, my guild has organized more tournaments on PC EU than probably most megaservers combined, and I can tell you it's an epic hassle and not worth it in the long run.
We need Zenimax to back us up here and stop trying to go around everything and somehow make it work on our own.
Moba style matches, I don't see that happening in ESO, BGs are the closest thing to that. Cyro will not significantly change for a long time (if ever, it's been 4 years now) and all we're left with is;
1. BGs.
2. Possible PVP Arenas with 1v1, 2v2, 4v4 modes.
3. Larger Scale BGs (8v8 maybe).
4. Open World PVP that was supposed to be introduced with the justice system, but we all know how that went.
So at this point, I'm like, whatever, forget about Cyro, let's just focus on what 'could' work.
Sad to say, but I think you are right. Sadly I only started ESO because I wanted a game with massive keep sieges and massive 3-way battles.
Yeah man, I've been here since betas. People are under false impressions that somehow the game was better then, or before the infamous lighting patch, it's all nonsense really. It was always a laggy mess, players just have bad memory.
That's why I'm all for ignoring Cyro and working on what shows at least some perspective. It's a shame to let PVP die out over time.
webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
Remove all these cancer builds and it might work, but I dont see it working very well UNLESS they had actual smart match making.
Which is beyond zos
Pve has lag too, just saying lol
And the lag hasn't always been there. It was introduced with the lighting patch (1.5?) Though they deny that. Before that patch we had 500v500v500 in pvp woth insanely large scale battles and very minimal lag.
webrgesner wrote: »I dont understand why, ZoS your game is honestly the BEST MMO. I love ESO and so does thousands of people. PvP is SO much fun and most people stay playing PvE because they dont want to deal with the lag. New players in PvP obviously goes in zerg because theyre new. And we all know Zerg = Lag. I am a solo PvP player i tend to stay away from zerg or get in cyrodiil at night where its less laggy. Furthermore I want to know how you guys can fix this? Is it the megaserver? Is it us? Our internet connection? I play with 15Mbps (not MB/s) and i heard its enough to play MMO. Can we also reduce lag by giving us option to tone down the graphics? I have always played solo and mosty gets zerged down while trying to find good fights. But zerging can also be fun and fast paced but its nearly impossible with the lag and delays. I barely take keeps and i hate zergs but im not going to lie, those keep fights are lit! I hope you guys can fix this lag issue for it has been in PvP since release
webrgesner wrote: »LegendaryMage wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »LegendaryMage wrote: »webrgesner wrote: »@LegendaryMage No need to focus dueling. We, the community, already do that. We make our own dueling tournaments and arenas. BG is already fine. IC is dead. Cyrodiil COULD be fun if the lag was less. Anyways i was thinking they should do a league of legends/DoTa/Smite gameplay i think its called "MOBA" its a 3v3 - 5v5 taking an enemy base with ads spawning in to help you. and also there are NPC bosses in the map where you can get an item, potion, or buffs. its a 35-60 minute gameplay match. That would be legit
Dueling would be much more fun if it was like it was years ago in Cyro.
Sure, there were imbalances but people were genuinely having fun. Builds were important even then, but the game had many more counter-mechanics and builds were generally easier on the game.
Now it's complete extremes where you have to have a 100% dedicated build to counter the very next guy because he's doing it too.
The community doesn't want to bother, my guild has organized more tournaments on PC EU than probably most megaservers combined, and I can tell you it's an epic hassle and not worth it in the long run.
We need Zenimax to back us up here and stop trying to go around everything and somehow make it work on our own.
Moba style matches, I don't see that happening in ESO, BGs are the closest thing to that. Cyro will not significantly change for a long time (if ever, it's been 4 years now) and all we're left with is;
1. BGs.
2. Possible PVP Arenas with 1v1, 2v2, 4v4 modes.
3. Larger Scale BGs (8v8 maybe).
4. Open World PVP that was supposed to be introduced with the justice system, but we all know how that went.
So at this point, I'm like, whatever, forget about Cyro, let's just focus on what 'could' work.
Sad to say, but I think you are right. Sadly I only started ESO because I wanted a game with massive keep sieges and massive 3-way battles.
Yeah man, I've been here since betas. People are under false impressions that somehow the game was better then, or before the infamous lighting patch, it's all nonsense really. It was always a laggy mess, players just have bad memory.
That's why I'm all for ignoring Cyro and working on what shows at least some perspective. It's a shame to let PVP die out over time.
I saw AngryJoe's eso pvp youtube video there were atleast a hundred of them marching on their horse and sieging a keep. His game crashed later on but their wasnt really much lag. unlike how it is now where if there are 30 people sieging a keep itd be laggy and their would be frame drop