Would u like to get ESO Ver of Dawnguard DLC vote Yes or No Poll

Sugram22

i have a idea to add just ancient vampire or ESO ver of Dawnguard DLC what includes ancient vampire who transforms & like in skyrim he can stay transformed as long as he wants, he has different skills & is stronger a bit in stage 4 then normal vamp, when he is in vamp form ofc he has different skills then before like ww, but even hes normal skills are different from normal vamp, it would be cool to have vamp who can transform to

additional idea
Dawngaurd has 3 options side with vamps side with hunters or make peace between them so they will hunt only the bad vamps not all & u have the option no matter who's team u joined (i mean even if u already became Ancient Vamp), but as A Vamp its bit harder to get to peace. (maybe as a vamp u half to kill both the hunters & vamp's leaders cause the second in command trusts u, there is mission that ends with u getting hes trust, u even tell him u have a plan to end it & it involves u becoming Vamp lord), but the peace choice includes killing the vamp lord cause he wants to rule humans, he sees this as only way for peace that he cant trust humans & hes daughter sees things differently so she will be ur ally, so some parts are ferry similar to Skyrims dawnguard when it comes to daughter betraying her father for the good of her ppl, or maybe the daughter replaces the vamp lord if u becoming boss would be weird in ur opinion

some passives will be same as normal vamp, example faster sneaking, when it comes to sneaking he will have same passive for it

but ancient vampires will be part of it either way Dawnguard or just new Vampire type ancient vampire

it will also add little change in all NPC, they notice ur a vamp or ww & when it comes to vamps they act slightly nervous well some of them, but trust even less, it adds extra work to Persuade some1 so Persuade option isn't enough (u get some extra mission to win trust, it would be nice to add rep sys to, this would replace the trust mission, that rep effects Persuade success & fail, so if ur vamp & have good rep, well it can be bad rep to but if rep says u are trust worthy despite being murderer then Persuade will work, it just says trust worthy or its not shown at all, just written in game scrip), depends what u want to Persuade, if u just give advice then Persuade works, when it comes to convincing NPC to do a moral choice then not, when it comes to ww in pact they are respected, seen as warriors & hunters, with vamps, Intimidate always works, its not effected by being vamp

this are my ideas for that DLC

but some above are just ideas, it will be left to dev's if they decide to do it

new u can vote

Edit

by Yes to all my previous mentioned options i mean all i mentioned in the vote questions

The_Lex

No to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

No. I played the DG DLC more times than I can count. It's a great a DLC, don't get me wrong. But the Vamp Lord form was something very unique to the Volkihar clan.

There's an amazing about of variation regarding vampires and werewolves (their abilities and weaknesses) in the TES universe. I would rather play through vampire/vampire hunter content that's unique to ESO and which doesn't always remind me of content I've played hundreds of times.

Sugram22

Yes to all my previous mentioned options

The_Patriarch wrote: »

No. I played the DG DLC more times than I can count. It's a great a DLC, don't get me wrong. But the Vamp Lord form was something very unique to the Volkihar clan.

There's an amazing about of variation regarding vampires and werewolves (their abilities and weaknesses) in the TES universe. I would rather play through vampire/vampire hunter content that's unique to ESO and which doesn't always remind me of content I've played hundreds of times.

yea but they could do a different cell of them of Volkihar clan or their distant relatives, ESO is bast so who knows how meany existed then & its bit different from the ES single player games so i think they will fit right in & it doesn't go against the lore, specially like one guy here said at https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/427109/would-u-like-to-get-eso-ver-of-dawnguard-dlc-vote-yes-or-no

The history of the Dawnguard is a bit vague and it's said to be formed by the Jarl of Riften in the Second Era.
Maybe some origin story dlc?
I think that would be fun to play.

huschdeguddzje

Yes to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

I'll just write down what I wrote on the other thread:
Bring the dawnguard to eso yes, but how it actually went down, not like something that sounds like bad fan fiction, during the second era the first dawnguard experienced it's downfall when they imprisoned the son of riftens jarl, who was a vampire.
The jarls son turned most of the dawnguard.
You could help the surviving members destroy the vampire menace an see the disbanding of the dawnguard after the deed is done.
They could also add a dawnguard crossbow skill line, not a new weapon mind you, but a skill line akin to aedric spear. So stam and mag can profit from it.
As for if your character is a vampire the writers would probably be able to come up with a half assed excuse, or actually give you the choice to help the vampires escape the dawnguard and find a new hideout.
You'd have to get crossbow skill line at the start then.

bloodthirstyvampire

Only if lamae bal is in it, she Isn't just some ancient Vampire, she is the first Vampire, ancient Vampires are but children to her, the most powerful Vampire in existence within the elder scrolls. We where given the gift of vampisim directly from her, so no Vampire besides her could face us. And I wouldn't want to fight her anyway, my blood matron.

No other option

Sugram22

Yes to all my previous mentioned options

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Only if lamae bal is in it, she Isn't just some ancient Vampire, she is the first Vampire, ancient Vampires are but children to her, the most powerful Vampire in existence within the elder scrolls. We where given the gift of vampisim directly from her, so no Vampire besides her could face us. And I wouldn't want to fight her anyway, my blood matron.

No other option

like ww have different sources how they came to be ww so have Vamps, so who failed again?

how the Volkihar clan in skyrim came to be?

u dont need to fight her, i mentioned vamp lord, ancient vamps are between her & normal vamps

huschdeguddzje

Yes to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Only if lamae bal is in it, she Isn't just some ancient Vampire, she is the first Vampire, ancient Vampires are but children to her, the most powerful Vampire in existence within the elder scrolls. We where given the gift of vampisim directly from her, so no Vampire besides her could face us. And I wouldn't want to fight her anyway, my blood matron.

No other option

Lamae may have been the first vampire, but she's not the only one to be turned by molag bal.
There are multiple vampires as powerful as Lamae, Serana and valeria for example.

EölMPK

Yes to DG & yes to change in NPC'S so they notice ur Vamp or Ww & behave accordingly

Seems fun, good dlc's are always welcome.
Better with some kind of vampire mount :P

bloodthirstyvampire

You failed, lamae bal is is the first Vampire, unless you lookin to get kinky with molag bal, serana is locked away,, the only Vampires I could see getting anywhere would be cyrodillic Vampires. A political dlc as cyrodillic Vampires are very highly ranked in the the lore politics

bloodthirstyvampire

huschdeguddzje wrote: »

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Only if lamae bal is in it, she Isn't just some ancient Vampire, she is the first Vampire, ancient Vampires are but children to her, the most powerful Vampire in existence within the elder scrolls. We where given the gift of vampisim directly from her, so no Vampire besides her could face us. And I wouldn't want to fight her anyway, my blood matron.

No other option

Lamae may have been the first vampire, but she's not the only one to be turned by molag bal.
There are multiple vampires as powerful as Lamae, Serana and valeria for example.

Locked away and trapped

huschdeguddzje

Yes to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

huschdeguddzje wrote: »

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Only if lamae bal is in it, she Isn't just some ancient Vampire, she is the first Vampire, ancient Vampires are but children to her, the most powerful Vampire in existence within the elder scrolls. We where given the gift of vampisim directly from her, so no Vampire besides her could face us. And I wouldn't want to fight her anyway, my blood matron.

No other option

Lamae may have been the first vampire, but she's not the only one to be turned by molag bal.
There are multiple vampires as powerful as Lamae, Serana and valeria for example.

Locked away and trapped

Those were only examples, there are multiple daughters of cold harbour

Gythral

No - something different as a Vampire story maybe & not a Dungeon DLC but a story one

The_Lex

No to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

Sugram22 wrote: »

The_Patriarch wrote: »

No. I played the DG DLC more times than I can count. It's a great a DLC, don't get me wrong. But the Vamp Lord form was something very unique to the Volkihar clan.

There's an amazing about of variation regarding vampires and werewolves (their abilities and weaknesses) in the TES universe. I would rather play through vampire/vampire hunter content that's unique to ESO and which doesn't always remind me of content I've played hundreds of times.

yea but they could do a different cell of them of Volkihar clan or their distant relatives, ESO is bast so who knows how meany existed then & its bit different from the ES single player games so i think they will fit right in & it doesn't go against the lore, specially like one guy here said at https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/427109/would-u-like-to-get-eso-ver-of-dawnguard-dlc-vote-yes-or-no

The history of the Dawnguard is a bit vague and it's said to be formed by the Jarl of Riften in the Second Era.
Maybe some origin story dlc?
I think that would be fun to play.

A distinction should be made between Volkihar vampires and the Volkihar Vampire Clan. Volkihars in general do not possess the vampire lord form because, with each successive generation, their bloodlines grow thin. If they can transform (which is rare), it's still considered a very weak version of what we see Skyrim. Harkon and his family possess the Lord in it's truest form. He hated the "thin-blooded" version of the typical Volkihars and cloistered himself at the Castle to keep pure. This happened long before the events of ESO.

The Dawnguard is more likely to be seen in ESO. Sometime in 2E, the Jarl of Riften built Fort Dawnguard to imprison his vampire son. He then hired a specific group of mercenaries, called the Dawnguard, to watch over the son. At some point during 2E, the DG killed the vampire son, but continued hunting vampires until they disbanded. This all happened within 2E.

ESO takes place around 2E582. There are roughly 900 years in the 2E, which puts ESO almost in the middle of 2E. Accordingly, the Dawnguard was formed and subsequently disbanded either before, during, or after the events of ESO. If the Dawnguard disbanded before the events of ESO, I believe many of them joined the FG. This is likely, given the ESO FG's mission to root out and destroy Daedra and undead. The DG would naturally find a home there. If they were formed and disbanded after the events of ESO, it's possible that a small group of FG members broke away from the FG and became the mercenary organization known as the Dawnguard, who carried on the original FG mission to root out undead.

Either way though, if ESO added Vamp/Vamp hunter content, I hope it's unique and not too similar to what was already presented. I answered "NO" on the poll because the question was pretty vague. Do I want an ESO version of the DG DLC? No. Something unique, absolutely.

Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO

No to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

I think vampires will be getting some love and attention over the next year in terms of balancing and reworking the skills to make them better in the same way that werewolves will have. But I don't think recycling ideas form old TES games is the right way to go. At any rate, I'd hate to think how much trouble it would be to balance vampire lords in ESO...

Peekachu99

Yes to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

I’m sure we will get one regardless of player interest or polls. However, given the half-baked WW changes, I expect a full forum meltdown when the Dawnguard PTS notes launch (since 90% of all toons are vamps—I don’t even think that’s hyperbole).

Malacthulhu

Maybe

nemvar

The Dawnguard is mentioned in the fluff text of the Silver Bolts skill. So the Dawnguard was already formed but it is unknown if it has been disbanded since.

Sugram22

Yes to all my previous mentioned options

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

You failed, lamae bal is is the first Vampire, unless you lookin to get kinky with molag bal, serana is locked away,, the only Vampires I could see getting anywhere would be cyrodillic Vampires. A political dlc as cyrodillic Vampires are very highly ranked in the the lore politics

again, lamae doesn't half to be involved in this at all so how is it fail?

its like example u repeat same thing over & over again even after u have been proven wrong on something, that's called trolling

Sylvermynx

No to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

Eh, no thanks. I've played that DLC WAY too many times (because of using the really great mod Legacy of the Dragonborn - so you really have to play Dawnguard....)

I can't even think about playing it in ESO. Ugh. Just.... ugh.

Matthew_Galvanus

No to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

i have to go with no to this idea. I would love to see the fall of the first Dawnguard as someone suggested, but right now I want them to go through vampire and make it a viable skill line to use in the game game.

Sugram22

Yes to all my previous mentioned options

Gythral wrote: »

No - something different as a Vampire story maybe & not a Dungeon DLC but a story one

that's not bad idea neither

starkerealm

I could get behind The Dawnguard showing up at some point. The actual organization may be active in the Second Era, so that is an option. Vampire Lords? No. That's an incredibly rare power, that has basically escaped detection. Vampire hunters don't know about it, nor do the vast majority of vampires. Tamriel has many distinct varieties of vampires, but this ability is almost completely unknown, both because of how dangerous it is, and how rare it is.

Consider this for a moment, prior to the Dragonborn, there are no reports from survivors who encountered a vampire lord. Either knowing it was a vampire, or describing one as some other kind of monster. None. It's not exaggeration to say that no one has lived to tell the tale.

Sugram22

Yes to all my previous mentioned options

starkerealm wrote: »

I could get behind The Dawnguard showing up at some point. The actual organization may be active in the Second Era, so that is an option. Vampire Lords? No. That's an incredibly rare power, that has basically escaped detection. Vampire hunters don't know about it, nor do the vast majority of vampires. Tamriel has many distinct varieties of vampires, but this ability is almost completely unknown, both because of how dangerous it is, and how rare it is.

Consider this for a moment, prior to the Dragonborn, there are no reports from survivors who encountered a vampire lord. Either knowing it was a vampire, or describing one as some other kind of monster. None. It's not exaggeration to say that no one has lived to tell the tale.

doesn't matter when if its coming, as long as we get transforming vamps like in skyrim, that's the most important part

current vamps not so fun, my Stam cat archer is vamp only for passives, cause they help, but never use their skills, so i like current vamp only cause of passives, cause hes usefulness, but even normal vamps could be a lot more

also what they could do, new class vampire, maybe make current vamp in to class & transforming vamp is new thing u can become & normal vamp will then have 3 skill trees like all classes, its just a thought, a idea

dodgehopper_ESO

I'll have to think about how to vote on this one. I generally think there should be an order of hunters. Must they be Dawnguard? Maybe. I would like some counterplay going on with this. Reputation in a general sense would be great but ESO never really made that part of the game. I'd love to see this kind of operation going on with other factions as well to the point that we could join Iron Wheel or Order of the Hour. Perhaps some day it will be possible.

dodgehopper_ESO

Peekachu99 wrote: »

I’m sure we will get one regardless of player interest or polls. However, given the half-baked WW changes, I expect a full forum meltdown when the Dawnguard PTS notes launch (since 90% of all toons are vamps—I don’t even think that’s hyperbole).

I reckon a lot of those 90% would like to get rid of vampire and be something else though...

ArchMikem

No to ESO Ver of Dawnguard

I want Elsweyr.