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Shifting standard.
regime211
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How is the cost reduction benefiting my fellow Mag/Stam DKs who play in pvp? I still rarely see anyone using it. Any reasons why?
Edited by regime211 on July 21, 2018 7:58PM 0
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del9✭✭✭✭There are so many sources of Major Defile that it isn’t a great reason to use standard. Even with shifting, one can just walk out of the damage. The burst of Leap is much more valuble in securing kills. Cost is still high relative.
What I would like to see is people using it with harmony for some fat shackle synergies.PCNA1 -
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✭There are so many sources of Major Defile that it isn’t a great reason to use standard. Even with shifting, one can just walk out of the damage. The burst of Leap is much more valuble in securing kills. Cost is still high relative.
What I would like to see is people using it with harmony for some fat shackle synergies.
I feel like zos should rework the ultimate, everything you stated is completely true, maybe there shouldn't be a synergy and it should just be apart of the ultimate, instead of someone having to proc the chains and be immobilized. I know it would make the ultimate stronger, but since you have to move it frequently it shouldn't be so bad.0 -
del9✭✭✭✭IMO they should take Major Defile off of most of its current sources, and bind it only to ultimates and the like. The Defile for standard should also be sticky, once effected they have the defile for 10 seconds or something. And I agree that the CC is barely reliable when bound to the synergy.PCNA6
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NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭IMO they should take Major Defile off of most of its current sources, and bind it only to ultimates and the like. The Defile for standard should also be sticky, once effected they have the defile for 10 seconds or something. And I agree that the CC is barely reliable when bound to the synergy.
Yeah for such a high impact buff its way too easily accessible and keep up. All the changes they are making by reducing its duration to 4 seconds totally don't matter when sets like duroks are still a thing. While at it they can also rework befoul.0 -
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✭IMO they should take Major Defile off of most of its current sources, and bind it only to ultimates and the like. The Defile for standard should also be sticky, once effected they have the defile for 10 seconds or something. And I agree that the CC is barely reliable when bound to the synergy.
That's a good idea, it sucks because even if I made a defile stam DK, and tried using shifting standard as the ultimate, I still have to deal with enemies being able to just run right through it, the ultimate shouldn't be useful for only group play but for solo as well. It would be nice if zos reworked the ultimate but we both know it wont happen.Edited by regime211 on July 21, 2018 10:06PM1 -
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✭✭There are so many sources of Major Defile that it isn’t a great reason to use standard. Even with shifting, one can just walk out of the damage. The burst of Leap is much more valuble in securing kills. Cost is still high relative.
What I would like to see is people using it with harmony for some fat shackle synergies.
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I'd rather just see banner on my back carried so that it is like the Eye of the Storm. At least then, you can justify the cost.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel0 -
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✭✭What I would like to see is people using it with harmony for some fat shackle synergies.
Grav Crush has 1.74x the tooltip of Shackle, so it's kinda hard to justify using the latter for synergy-bombingEdited by TheYKcid on July 25, 2018 10:37AMPC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
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Jjitsuboy98✭✭✭✭How is the cost reduction benefiting my fellow Mag/Stam DKs who play in pvp? I still rarely see anyone using it. Any reasons why?
Because it's liquid garbage.1 -
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I agree, and I doubt zos will go back and reconfigure the whole ultimate.0 -
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✭✭✭✭I've suggested the idea before that Standard should be a stamina negate. I wouldn't mind an auto-shackle for a limited number of players.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I've suggested the idea before that Standard should be a stamina negate. I wouldn't mind an auto-shackle for a limited number of players.
While it’s an interesting idea I really don’t want them to add a new CC mechanic before they fix the already existing ones.Edited by Feanor on July 26, 2018 3:37PMMain characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
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I can agree with that. Unfortunately they are willing to add a cheap unbreakable aoe stun while leaving a very expensive ultimate to be sub par.0 -
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✭I've suggested the idea before that Standard should be a stamina negate. I wouldn't mind an auto-shackle for a limited number of players.
Naw I rather it not be a copy and paste of sorcs negate, or time stop, honestly it should of emitted fire around your toon with the flag hanging on your back if anything.Edited by regime211 on July 27, 2018 1:41AM0 -
leeux✭✭✭✭✭I still use it when I play my DK, just for nostalgia's sake
But yeah, I prefer Leap too... and Magma armor for the defensive bar... but I sometimes put the old standard back there, to have some fun
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