Domihaus bugged?

DreadKnight

Domi helm had been on my shopping list for a while - specifically to add to my hybrid Templar build. So I went and bought two from the Golden this morning.

She's wearing 5 Rattle, 5 Pelinals and now 2 Domi. As she has slightly more stam than mag, the physical damage (ring of rocks) procs. However, a quick swap to my character bar shows NO SPELL OR WEAPON DAMAGE increase whatsoever. So I test a few times, overall I did actually get it to increase 1 in ten procs of the ring, and yes, I am standing in the ring each time. Not only that, but by blocking once it procs, I can then also see that it is doing NO AOE DAMAGE WHATSOEVER regardless of whether I get the spell damage buff or not.

I then put the set on my main dps Magplar - just to check if it's an issue with the Pelinals and get exactly the same result - although I get the ring of fire this time as mag is my highest stat - no spell damage buff, and no AOE damage to enemies within the ring.

Another broken set?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

DreadKnight

This is on Xbox NA by the way - the problem child of ESO

Amdar_Godkiller

It's probably because of Pelinals. If without Pelinals, your weapon damage would be higher than your spell damage, then domihaus will only increase your weapon and spell damage when the physical damage ring appears. When the fire ring appears it will not change because the spell damage buff is calculated before the pelinals 5 piece bonus. It's why major brutality will buff your weapon and spell damage in pelinals, but major sorcery will do nothing. .

Nightfall12

watching this.


i havn't bought my helm yet but this has me wondering

DreadKnight

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

It's probably because of Pelinals. If without Pelinals, your weapon damage would be higher than your spell damage, then domihaus will only increase your weapon and spell damage when the physical damage ring appears. When the fire ring appears it will not change because the spell damage buff is calculated before the pelinals 5 piece bonus. It's why major brutality will buff your weapon and spell damage in pelinals, but major sorcery will do nothing. .

Yeah, I wondered this - so I tried it on my main Magplar - who isn't wearing Peilinals and got the same results ?!?


..and it doesn't explain the total lack of AOE damage stated on the Tooltip.

I'll try it again on my stamsorc

Sleepersword

The set has no aoe dmg, it does only affect enemies standing ON the ring, not IN it. Tooltip also tells you that

Caligamy_ESO

First.. the physical dmg ring (earth effect) does not buff spell dmg, it only buffs weapon dmg. Only the fire ring buffs spell dmg while standing inside of it. Second the inner area inside the effect does not do any dmg, only the outer edge of the ring where the effect is displayed does dmg. I know, ...ultimate let down to your aoe dreams.

I worked my butt off to get that helm when it was released only to be gravely disappointed by its mechanics.
(It was glorious when it was on PTS and you could proc both rings simultaneously)

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

This set either needs to have 350 weapon or spell damage for being in the ring or have the proc do the damage that the ring does to everyone in the ring. Probably both.

DreadKnight

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

First.. the physical dmg ring (earth effect) does not buff spell dmg, it only buffs weapon dmg. Only the fire ring buffs spell dmg while standing inside of it. Second the inner area inside the effect does not do any dmg, only the outer edge of the ring where the effect is displayed does dmg. I know, ...ultimate let down to your aoe dreams.

I worked my butt off to get that helm when it was released only to be gravely disappointed by its mechanics.
(It was glorious when it was on PTS and you could proc both rings simultaneously)

ok, thanks for a constructive and informative post - and yes, it's a total let down for my hybrid then, although I still don't understand why it actually works 1 in 10. I guess to make it somewhat useful, I'd have to spec for slightly more mag than stam on my hybrid, which isn't really a problem.

DreadKnight

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

This set either needs to have 350 weapon or spell damage for being in the ring or have the proc do the damage that the ring does to everyone in the ring. Probably both.

Agreed, given how hard it is to farm.

ArchMikem

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

First.. the physical dmg ring (earth effect) does not buff spell dmg, it only buffs weapon dmg. Only the fire ring buffs spell dmg while standing inside of it. Second the inner area inside the effect does not do any dmg, only the outer edge of the ring where the effect is displayed does dmg. I know, ...ultimate let down to your aoe dreams.

I worked my butt off to get that helm when it was released only to be gravely disappointed by its mechanics.
(It was glorious when it was on PTS and you could proc both rings simultaneously)

No.

No that can't be right. That would be the stupidest mechanic for a damage set. I thought it was AoE, the tooltip on the fextralife wiki doesn't specify what you claim.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

ArchMikem wrote: »

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

First.. the physical dmg ring (earth effect) does not buff spell dmg, it only buffs weapon dmg. Only the fire ring buffs spell dmg while standing inside of it. Second the inner area inside the effect does not do any dmg, only the outer edge of the ring where the effect is displayed does dmg. I know, ...ultimate let down to your aoe dreams.

I worked my butt off to get that helm when it was released only to be gravely disappointed by its mechanics.
(It was glorious when it was on PTS and you could proc both rings simultaneously)

No.

No that can't be right. That would be the stupidest mechanic for a damage set. I thought it was AoE, the tooltip on the fextralife wiki doesn't specify what you claim.

Yes.

Yes it is completely right. Has been since it went live. Yes it is the stupidest damage set, why do you think that no one has ever mentioned it in any build videos?

And stop using FetLife, use uesp.net, http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Domihaus, here is the sets description-

.When you deal damage, you have a 15% chance to create either a ring of fire or ring of molten earth around you for 10 seconds, which deals 11-1000 Flame damage or 11-1000 Physical damage every 1 second. Standing within the ring grants you 2-200 Spell Damage or 2-200 Weapon Damage. This effect can occur once every 15 seconds.

Notice how it says "which deals", that is referencing the aforementioned "ring" part. Nowhere does it say that anything but the ring would get the damage.

jjjozo

When you deal damage, you have a 15% chance to create either a ring of fire or a ring of molten earth around you for 10 seconds, which deals 1,000 Flame Damage or 1,000 Physical Damage every 1 second. Standing within the ring grants you 200 Spell Damage or 200 Weapon Damage. This effect can occur once every 15 seconds.

- no note about size of the ring, it says around you, it can be small ring in close range, it can be also ring 100m away, you don't even see...
- it says "ring deals damage", but to who? all sets say "to enemy" or "to enemies" or it can be some ravage mechanics set dealing damage also to player, no note about that
- i proced it 60 times today to test, 30x only magicka damage, 30x only physical damage, it was always only weapon damage buff, always molten earth... i am stamina class focused on weapon damage, so i guess it buffs always bigger stat, no note about that

For PvP is usable only as 1piece set bonus (1k mag + 1k stam). 200 WD and you are restricted to small area? No thanks.
For PvE is usable only as 1piece set bonus (1k mag + 1k stam). No buff for entire group, only for you. No thanks.

This stupid set is no mach to other monsters, you can find for your class and play style countless better sets. And thing is, description of set is totally misleading. I wonder how many people got fooled today, as they saw it selling at Golden vendor.

ZOS, if you appreciate your customers at least little bit you have 3 options:
1. change description of set, so none gets fooled (range of ring, who is affected by damage, type of buff dependency...)
2. change description of set + mechanics of set
3. remove it from the game entirely

for 1st, it stays useless as it is, but players will not buy or farm it by mistake and at all
for 2nd, you make it usable and understandable, if you do something smart with it
for 3rd, you make very positive thing, cuz this set is trash in every way

Tyrobag

As for having no damage output, that's because the set is designed in the dumbest way possible. The ring is just that, a ring, not a circle. Enemies only take damage if they're right on the edge (which is insane, because there's no way you can stand at that exact range at all times).

The no damage increase sounds like a bug though.

Vapirko

This set should definitely do damage in the whole ring. It’s a very underwhelming set and the amount of proc damage is very low. Idk how ZOS makes so many sets either way under powered or way over powered.

DreadKnight

jjjozo wrote: »

When you deal damage, you have a 15% chance to create either a ring of fire or a ring of molten earth around you for 10 seconds, which deals 1,000 Flame Damage or 1,000 Physical Damage every 1 second. Standing within the ring grants you 200 Spell Damage or 200 Weapon Damage. This effect can occur once every 15 seconds.

- no note about size of the ring, it says around you, it can be small ring in close range, it can be also ring 100m away, you don't even see...
- it says "ring deals damage", but to who? all sets say "to enemy" or "to enemies" or it can be some ravage mechanics set dealing damage also to player, no note about that
- i proced it 60 times today to test, 30x only magicka damage, 30x only physical damage, it was always only weapon damage buff, always molten earth... i am stamina class focused on weapon damage, so i guess it buffs always bigger stat, no note about that

For PvP is usable only as 1piece set bonus (1k mag + 1k stam). 200 WD and you are restricted to small area? No thanks.
For PvE is usable only as 1piece set bonus (1k mag + 1k stam). No buff for entire group, only for you. No thanks.

This stupid set is no mach to other monsters, you can find for your class and play style countless better sets. And thing is, description of set is totally misleading. I wonder how many people got fooled today, as they saw it selling at Golden vendor.

ZOS, if you appreciate your customers at least little bit you have 3 options:
1. change description of set, so none gets fooled (range of ring, who is affected by damage, type of buff dependency...)
2. change description of set + mechanics of set
3. remove it from the game entirely

for 1st, it stays useless as it is, but players will not buy or farm it by mistake and at all
for 2nd, you make it usable and understandable, if you do something smart with it
for 3rd, you make very positive thing, cuz this set is trash in every way

Thank you very much for that detailed explanation and taking time to test. It certainly did fool me, back to one piece Domi and one piece Kena for my hybrid then.

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