Limit Craglorn to 50+ chars and BUFF ALL ENCOUNTERS to previous difficulty.

Mureel

There are more than enough newbie areas.

I AGREE to leave quests able to be done by one person, as in, only one player needed to unlock a door, etc- BUT:

Craglorn was meant to be a hard/adventure zone.

There are 4 newbie places and CH for newbies/lowbies to farm.

Please restore Craglorn to its former glory!

Give us a place to play that's fun, and make more of them!

Adventure zones are awesome.

Bring them back!

Or make it free for all PVP/ PK zone!

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

Why no? Out of curiosity?

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

Furthermore, Craglorn is ruined in terms of its original purpose.

Why did ZOS let this happen?

IMHO, no one under 'vet' level has any business here.

VaranisArano

No thanks. Sorry, I remember how dead Craglorn was before One Tamriel. Even now, its not easy to get my friends together to do quests or even to find get a random group together from zone chat.

I'll put up with the constant calls of "WTB Skyreach Runs" in return for a Craglorn that actually feels alive.

phileunderx2

No.

No it was dead before. So why revert it?

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

Y'all should have seen some of the fights there before all this 1 Lameriel business.

Some of them really were like minintrials.

It was fantastic.

We need to have a few zones that are 50+ (160cp+) oriented and far more difficult. Like before.

This will affect no one of lower levels, and will be a boon to higher levels.

There must be some zones which are more harsh. Not only trials and DLC dungeons.

This place used to be menacing.

Bring the fear back!

Violynne

Mureel wrote: »

Please restore Craglorn to its former glory!

Have you been to Craglorn lately? It's a barren wasteland. I see maybe one person who, coincidentally, is on the same path I am as we pick up our goods from our survey.

In the past 3 weeks, I've seen a group of 3 people, three, take on one of the bosses.

Sure, go ahead and restore it to its former "glory", as this will absolutely turn it into a ghost town.

I should mention those 3 people were level 40s.

Maybe if they restored drops worth something in the game, many would return?

The_Protagonist

No.

There is some activity now, walling behind a level will only make it more deserted than before (pre CP era).

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

Also, why should every lowbie/battle levelled player be in every zone? Why can't 90% be enough?

More adventure zones!

ZOS! Punish us! xD

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

The_Protagonist wrote: »

There is some activity now, walling behind a level will only make it more deserted than before (pre CP era).

Good. Bal Foyen is calling you.

theyancey

No.

No

Sheezabeast

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

I miss old Craglorn, RIP wasps that hurt!

But on one hand, with there being homes in Craglorn, I see no way logistically they could make this change.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

No.

Seems you just want less competition farming.

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

VaranisArano wrote: »

No thanks. Sorry, I remember how dead Craglorn was before One Tamriel. Even now, its not easy to get my friends together to do quests or even to find get a random group together from zone chat.

I'll put up with the constant calls of "WTB Skyreach Runs" in return for a Craglorn that actually feels alive.

But who cares if it was dead, if the alternative is newbies and bots strip mining?

Is your Craglorn experience that much more enjoyable with people Fiording around strip mining the place bare?

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Seems you just want less competition farming.

As IF I farm xD I buy my things, like most end game people.

I want one area to play in that's not a preformed 4 or 12 player group.

Is this really that hard to see?

DenMoria

Other, and why?

In other words, limit the experience only to those you deem worth of it. I get it.

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

Everything else in game is stupidly boring. Craglorn used to be amazing.

Not anymore.

So by your standards people cannot have one tiny place that is still scary?

Also, I'll thank you to not try and fill my mouth with the ashes of your own prejudices.

danno8

No.

Craglorn was only ever busy because people found a way cheese the XP from rifts to level up fast. That's all. The day they nerfed that XP is the day it became absolutely barren.

The truth is, most people don't want challenge without reward, and the devs don't want to create areas that people can team up and cheese for rewards. That is why after a year of "tough" Craglorn sitting empty they went back and nerfed all the mobs in the zone so people could treat it like any other zone.

VaranisArano

Mureel wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

No thanks. Sorry, I remember how dead Craglorn was before One Tamriel. Even now, its not easy to get my friends together to do quests or even to find get a random group together from zone chat.

I'll put up with the constant calls of "WTB Skyreach Runs" in return for a Craglorn that actually feels alive.

But who cares if it was dead, if the alternative is newbies and bots strip mining?

Is your Craglorn experience that much more enjoyable with people Fiording around strip mining the place bare?

Before One Tamriel, I was one of those strip miners. I still am.

Yeah, I like Craglorn to have actual people in it. I like to actually do the quests without having to coordinate schedules with IRL friends or worse, try to coordinate with zone chat. Your suggestions would drive players away, and I'm not down for that.

Trinity_Is_My_Name

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

Agree. Bring back Craglorn the way it was before One Tamriel. Remember the Dune Rippers we had? The smallest ones are now the only ones we see. All the large ones were removed and the small ones nerfed to nothing.

It was exciting going into Craglorn alone or with a group. If you ventured off the beaten path just a little the Wasps were on ya! Loved it! The delves were tough as heck and worth entering to earn the loot. You actually felt like you accomplished something. Now? LOL! It's one big joke! There isn't a place in Craglorn I can't go solo and never die.

Tryxus

No.

Quit living in the past, man!

danno8

No.

Mureel wrote: »

So by your standards people cannot have one tiny place that is still scary?

They do have those. They are called dungeons and trials. Or vMA. Craglorn is just another instanced area of the game, but one that has virtually no rewards different from anywhere else.

What would you do if Craglorn was made to be as difficult as a 4-man vet dungeon anyway? Kill all the mobs for green basic weapons with your team of 24? There is literally nothing there to attract people to the zone for the kind of challenge you are looking for.

Nah, it's a beautiful zone that I think everyone should be able to enjoy.

eso_nya

No.

The monsters were buffed in ot. u were buffed more tho.

equip your good old v14 2 adroitness, 2 cyrolight, 4 martial and 2 torugs again, remove all your cp, eat your good old cp100 buffood. weapon ults werent a thing back than, so no ele rage.
Now check how awesome shada is, if u cant get the 40k burst done and mechanics happen. Enjoy spending a whole afternoon in zonechat, trying to find 3 more ppl to let u into the funny lake portal (reimonds retreat?).

No thanks. Counter proposal: Make nirnstones drop everywhere. Same for other "exclusive" mats like zonebound style items. Just like thiefstroves and psijic portals. And while you r on it: provisioning source treatment for all the nodes. ty!

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

One statement, for us oldies, Shada's Tear. This used to F your life.

Bring it back!

Mureel

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

eso_nya wrote: »

The monsters were buffed in ot. u were buffed more tho.

equip your good old v14 2 adroitness, 2 cyrolight, 4 martial and 2 torugs again, remove all your cp, eat your good old cp100 buffood. weapon ults werent a thing back than, so no ele rage.
Now check how awesome shada is, if u cant get the 40k burst done and mechanics happen. Enjoy spending a whole afternoon in zonechat, trying to find 3 more ppl to let u into the funny lake portal (reimonds retreat?).

No thanks. Counter proposal: Make nirnstones drop everywhere. Same for other "exclusive" mats like zonebound style items. Just like thiefstroves and psijic portals. And while you r on it: provisioning source treatment for all the nodes. ty!

Idgaf about nirncrap. You can have it wherever you want.

I want one area in all of game that's not an instance, that's actually worth playing.

Population matters NIL if the only pop are farmers *** the land.

Prof_Bawbag

Craglorn was fine when it first hit, as everyone wanted to do it or at least a large number of people were willing. Then, no one touched it. Next to no one offered to help those newcomers that were always asking in chat for some help. instead, most people preferred to remain in Mournhold spamming their AoE's etc.

ZoS obviously had the data at hand that confirmed everything that we all knew, that next to no one ventured there other than for nodes. It was a complete waste. Players have no one other than themselves to blame. Had it been fine and plenty of people spent time helping all those people who they used to ignore in chat, Craglorn would probably have remained the same.

yukikenzo

Yes! Reserve Craglorn to Lvl 50+ characters

eso_nya wrote: »

The monsters were buffed in ot. u were buffed more tho.

All the monsters were nerfed to the ground. Craglorn was a scary challenging place back in the days. Seems like you've never been there. I kinda miss how people interact and played as a group of four to complete Craglorn content. Nowadays you see people post 'lfg Skyreach' 'grind me up pay x amount of gold'.

It was a fun and challenging region to explore.

AdicusDio

They should put a minimum in place as I've seen bots there farming less intense areas. You know the ones, they almost always carry a great sword, it's ALWAYS OUT, even when they jog (never sprint), they wear garbage clothes, they follow a set path that takes them to nodes, even when the node is already gone i.e. they go harvest map locations, etc. etc.

These bots shouldn't be able to flood the market with nirn products, etc..

Chaos2088

No.

What you talking about Willis??

shadowwraith666

No.

oh look another "increase difficulty" thread..... how about NO!

ADarklore

No.

Violynne wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

Please restore Craglorn to its former glory!

Have you been to Craglorn lately? It's a barren wasteland. I see maybe one person who, coincidentally, is on the same path I am as we pick up our goods from our survey.

In the past 3 weeks, I've seen a group of 3 people, three, take on one of the bosses.

Sure, go ahead and restore it to its former "glory", as this will absolutely turn it into a ghost town.

I should mention those 3 people were level 40s.

Maybe if they restored drops worth something in the game, many would return?

Not really sure what server you're on or what time you've been there, but every time I've been to Craglorn lately it's been busy with players and not just at the Guild Traders. I've been there doing quests and have seen plenty of other solo questers running around.