Can wardens get a class change token?

MLGProPlayer

ZOS has refused to buff the warden for 14 straight months now. It's still the most underrepresented class in endgame (2.7% compared to 20-25% for every other class).

Considering we paid real money for this class, could we please get a class change token so we can switch to something more effective? It's obvious you have no plans to ever buff the class, so we need some type of alternative customer service.

Thanks.

Turelus

Can't make it good or the P2W crowd from beta will come back and make sure it gets nerfed down again.

Personally I think the issue it suffers is they tried to make it the jack of all trades/support in a game where role focus is very important (PvE), I guess they'll eventually get to it but I think the class is going to need a pretty big sweeping pass to really iron out the issues.

MLGProPlayer

Turelus wrote: »

Can't make it good or the P2W crowd from beta will come back and make sure it gets nerfed down again.

Personally I think the issue it suffers is they tried to make it the jack of all trades/support in a game where role focus is very important (PvE), I guess they'll eventually get to it but I think the class is going to need a pretty big sweeping pass to really iron out the issues.

If they just made them an acceptable DPS class, their usage would spike significantly as DPS is the most numerous class in a trial group. But as the second best tank and healer and the absolute worst DPS, they see very little use.

Troneon

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

ZOS has refused to buff the warden for 14 straight months now. It's still the most underrepresented class in endgame (2.7% compared to 20-25% for every other class).

Considering we paid real money for this class, could we please get a class change token so we can switch to something more effective? It's obvious you have no plans to ever buff the class, so we need some type of alternative customer service.

Thanks.

Lets all be Mag Sorcs.

Then we only get nerfed in all the wrong places and stay OP.

Turelus

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Can't make it good or the P2W crowd from beta will come back and make sure it gets nerfed down again.

Personally I think the issue it suffers is they tried to make it the jack of all trades/support in a game where role focus is very important (PvE), I guess they'll eventually get to it but I think the class is going to need a pretty big sweeping pass to really iron out the issues.

If they just made them an acceptable DPS class, their usage would spike significantly as DPS is the most numerous class in a trial group. But as the second best tank and healer and the absolute worst DPS, they see very little use.

It'll happen, it's way overdue and frustrating, but it'll happen.
Just need to wait for the update where they dedicate to class balance again.

Bigevilpeter

I don't need a class change token since I have a magika and stamina of every class, but I really want to play my freaking warden in PvE with being a liability dammit.

Why are the people at ZOS intentionally keeping them weak?? I don't think they haven't noticed that they are under powered for over a year now

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Troneon wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

ZOS has refused to buff the warden for 14 straight months now. It's still the most underrepresented class in endgame (2.7% compared to 20-25% for every other class).

Considering we paid real money for this class, could we please get a class change token so we can switch to something more effective? It's obvious you have no plans to ever buff the class, so we need some type of alternative customer service.

Thanks.

Lets all be Mag Sorcs.

Then we only get nerfed in all the wrong places and stay OP.

This thread took three posts to become a nerf sorc thread. Ezareth's law is in full effect.

Imza

Just delete your warden (like I did) and make a new toon...

Pink_Violinz

Imza wrote: »

Just delete your warden (like I did) and make a new toon...

Unfortunate but true. I've tried to get the hang of warden multiple times but they just don't fit anywhere (in pve at least). I've heard tales that warden is good in Cyro, but considering I've never fought one that wasn't sprinting away at mach speed I'm not so sure.

Starlight_Knight

Its sad really, i hope they add some warden changes in the next pts update, i don't know how much longer i can keep looking forward to changes - With all the crap they fed us about the next patch will be for balance updates, before summerset, then summerset came, we got more nerfs - nobody ever came to the forums and said, you know what, mag wardens are so OP that they should have their stun removed. That, and the increased speed of birds meant we lost our timed burst.

Mag wardens in pve don't even use fissure or cliff racer as its a dps loss, just use elemental wep. So can we have our pvp skills back please?

Beardimus

Come to battlegrounds. StamDen are a main part of any decent team. And there are a ton of then about.

Mojomonkeyman

Beardimus wrote: »

Come to battlegrounds. StamDen are a main part of any decent team. And there are a ton of then about.

You do realize that the complaints are obviously based on magicka warden performance, right? How about you stick to your sorc defense force instead of giving misguided advice?

You sorcs are really hilarious. I'll remind you to go play stamsorc when ZOS happens to take away all your offensive and cc options.

Vercingetorix

There is nothing redeeming about the Warden. It has been over a year and nothing has changed for the better, if anything, things have gotten worse. Templars are healers that can also effectively pull dps. Dragonknights are tanks that can effectively pull dps. You can even choose NB and reliably perform all 3 roles with the added benefit of having a strong, synergistic toolkit and 12 useful passives.

grannas211

Make Magicka Warden Great Again (or for once actually)

POps75p

pretty please

Tryxus

When Morrowind launched and I decided to reroll my MagBlade, I wanted to go back to Sorc first. But I had a lot of fun with the Warden on PTS, and it was a class I've been begging for a long time.

If I had known how they would suck the fun right out of Warden back then, I would be a Sorc main right now...

Eedat

Lets all be Mag Sorcs.

Then we only get nerfed in all the wrong places and stay OP.

This meme is kinda getting old. Mag sorcs really arent OP. I play multiple classes and theyre all relatively the same. They all have their *** moments. Tired of the bad joke being recycled over and over AND OVER AND OVER because people dont know how to play their class

gnarlyvandal

Troneon wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

ZOS has refused to buff the warden for 14 straight months now. It's still the most underrepresented class in endgame (2.7% compared to 20-25% for every other class).

Considering we paid real money for this class, could we please get a class change token so we can switch to something more effective? It's obvious you have no plans to ever buff the class, so we need some type of alternative customer service.

Thanks.

Lets all be Mag Sorcs.

Then we only get nerfed in all the wrong places and stay OP.

Le sigh.

DenMoria

Sure. They're for sale in the Crown Store for only 5K.

Go for it and enjoy.

Luv,

Z

MLGProPlayer

Hayden_Knight wrote: »

nobody ever came to the forums and said, you know what, mag wardens are so OP that they should have their stun removed.

The majority of the player base agree that wardens need a buff: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414775/which-class-is-most-in-need-of-a-buff/p1

max_only

I like my stam Warden tank...

Khrogo

My friend gets 46k on his mag Warden. They can’t be that bad.

weedgenius

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Can't make it good or the P2W crowd from beta will come back and make sure it gets nerfed down again.

Personally I think the issue it suffers is they tried to make it the jack of all trades/support in a game where role focus is very important (PvE), I guess they'll eventually get to it but I think the class is going to need a pretty big sweeping pass to really iron out the issues.

If they just made them an acceptable DPS class, their usage would spike significantly as DPS is the most numerous class in a trial group. But as the second best tank and healer and the absolute worst DPS, they see very little use.

That hits the nail on the head. Templar outperforms them as healer, DK outperforms as tank, and every class outperforms as DPS. There's no reason to use this class and if you paid money for it, you were sold a blatantly subpar alternative to existing classes.

weedgenius

Khrogo wrote: »

My friend gets 46k on his mag Warden. They can’t be that bad.

@Khrogo Pix or it didn't happen.

Zardayne

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

ZOS has refused to buff the warden for 14 straight months now. It's still the most underrepresented class in endgame (2.7% compared to 20-25% for every other class).

Considering we paid real money for this class, could we please get a class change token so we can switch to something more effective? It's obvious you have no plans to ever buff the class, so we need some type of alternative customer service.

Thanks.

As a veteran MMO gamer, this right here tells me everything I need to know about this company. I don't even need to look at all of the crown store milkage, the blind nerfbat swings, performance issues, ease of overland gameplay, and the list goes on. When a huge percentage of your players, and not just the ones who play a certain class, are telling you a class is in serious need of help and you continue to ignore them all for over a year you've got some serious problems.

Wake up ZOS!! Get your head out of the crown store with it's ridiculous prices and re-skinned camels and pay attention to those who love the game but are getting real tired of being ignored.

GamerAeryn

Trying to make a healden and magden on both my accounts and not happy with the solo performance of either, even something as simple as getting shards in delves, especially considering how nice my stamdens play. Guess I'll keep waiting.

MLGProPlayer

Khrogo wrote: »

My friend gets 46k on his mag Warden. They can’t be that bad.

And every other class can hit 50k+ (and gets to use an AOE ultimate), so unfortunately, they really are that bad.

FrostFallFox

I wish I could class change my crafter into a Warden still .

I love it too much to abandon it, I’m just happy it can do more dps now after the update even though it’s lower than other classes. Still pulling more dps in trials than some people

PlagueSD

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

ZOS has refused to buff the warden for 14 straight months now. It's still the most underrepresented class in endgame (2.7% compared to 20-25% for every other class).

Considering we paid real money for this class, could we please get a class change token so we can switch to something more effective? It's obvious you have no plans to ever buff the class, so we need some type of alternative customer service.

Thanks.

Obviously, you don't play a stamplar...I think they are worse off than wardens currently.

Gprime31

Wardens are broken strong.... you are playing it wrong

WaltherCarraway

Stam Warden PvP should make you happy.