Best tank sets for Vet Trials?

cjechurchill

So I am considering changing my role from a healer to a tank to do trials. I am wondering if I should be choosing more selfish sets for higher survivability for that kind of content, or should I still be slotting Ebon for example?

DuskMarine

cjechurchill wrote: »

So I am considering changing my role from a healer to a tank to do trials. I am wondering if I should be choosing more selfish sets for higher survivability for that kind of content, or should I still be slotting Ebon for example?

really tbh since dps can run alkosh now to replace nmg a tank should be running more selfish sets to stay alive. but raid leaders dont understand yet how the games changing.

Shezzarrine

Tanks don't wear selfish sets much in trials, everything is to help the dps hit harder so a selfish set is wasted. Having a dps wear alkosh is a a damage decrease

DuskMarine

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Tanks don't wear selfish sets much in trials, everything is to help the dps hit harder so a selfish set is wasted. Having a dps wear alkosh is a a damage decrease

actually now since nmg is useless its not a damage decrease anymore for dps. and tanks really do need the selfish sets anymore as ive seen so many others that have the "perfect" setup and die like tissue paper.

SammyFable

Until you're comfortable with the mechanics of the trial, wear selfish sets. When you stop dying to stupid stuff, you can use support sets.

DuskMarine wrote: »

Shezzarrine wrote: »

Tanks don't wear selfish sets much in trials, everything is to help the dps hit harder so a selfish set is wasted. Having a dps wear alkosh is a a damage decrease

actually now since nmg is useless its not a damage decrease anymore for dps. and tanks really do need the selfish sets anymore as ive seen so many others that have the "perfect" setup and die like tissue paper.

Then you've either seen some bad tanks or very unexperienced ones. Especially in the old trials, a good tank doesn't need selfish sets. People were clearing those trials with tanks using support sets for ages now.

hamsterontherocksb16_ESO

DuskMarine wrote: »

cjechurchill wrote: »

So I am considering changing my role from a healer to a tank to do trials. I am wondering if I should be choosing more selfish sets for higher survivability for that kind of content, or should I still be slotting Ebon for example?

really tbh since dps can run alkosh now to replace nmg a tank should be running more selfish sets to stay alive. but raid leaders dont understand yet how the games changing.

The point of tanks running Alkosh is that that they are always around the boss, unlike dps who might have to kite or attack from range. This guarantees the highest uptime. Tanks also need to use synergies the most to profit from the undaunted passive to get back health and resources. Especially Stamina since it does not regen while blocking. They are the logical choice to wear Alkosh.

Liofa

Use Ebon/Dragon/Lord Warden. That's more than enough tankiness for everything. When you are comfortable,you can swap Dragon for Alkosh.

PouletRico

As a beginner, I use Ebon/Plague Doctor/Blood Spawn, allowing me to make "mistake" without dying and learn mechanics.

Also it's good to have another set to replace Ebon, if the other tank in the group have it already.

Sparr0w

Ebon/Plague/Dragon/Torug/Alkosh/Green pact/Galenwe/Imperium/Mephala/Ironblood/Jorvulds/Knightmare/Leeching plate/Lich/Invigoration/Ulfnor/Warlock/Bahraha/Draugr/Dreamers/Hatchlings/Livewire (Sure there's many more)

Any monster set really, as long as it's not a DPS one. I run 1pc resistance 1pc mag recovery.

Group wipes only really happen when the tank dies, so it's better to run 'selfish' (self survival) sets than group sets until you're comfortable.

Concret

You Can have a very high health pool using support set (Ebon/Torug/Dragon/..) So there is absolutly no point using selfish set. If you die with a High pool health support set you will probably die with selfish set as well. You Can use Ebon/Torug first (trully not bad, High health pool, tanky and still a support setup) and when you fell confortable Swap for Torug/Alkosh or Ebon/Alkosh.

commdt

DuskMarine wrote: »

cjechurchill wrote: »

So I am considering changing my role from a healer to a tank to do trials. I am wondering if I should be choosing more selfish sets for higher survivability for that kind of content, or should I still be slotting Ebon for example?

really tbh since dps can run alkosh now to replace nmg a tank should be running more selfish sets to stay alive. but raid leaders dont understand yet how the games changing.

Im both raid leader and Tank, and I dont understand how the game is changing. Ebon/Alcosh is still a must

Asardes

I'd say Alkosh is even more important now, because stamina builds have lost 6K penetration from the NMG and Sunderflame changes. Yes, they switched from Warrior to Lover mundus to offset 4.2K of that, but at a cost of about ~510-535 weapon damage when accounting for all multipliers; or change one Weapon Damage set like Hunding for TFS but with similar results. If it weren't for Relequen they would have probably fallen way behind magicka, but that set will most likely get a downwards adjustment soon. The change to light & heavy attack formula actually advantaged magicka too since it has a higher multiplier due to Inner Light and in 3/5 cases some class skills & passives.

If Alkosh is unavailable a good stop gap set is Torug's Pact. The debuff gain is much smaller though, since Crusher enchant value is increased by about 700, and this enchant only applies to a single target at a time as opposed to Alkosh that's AoE. Enchants apply to closest enemy if you use Blockade of Storms from backbar to trigger it so in boss+add fights where you stay melee is actually better to drop it and apply it front the front bar with Pierce Armor, Heroic Slash and LA/HA weave.

You can pair either with either Dragon (better Warhorn frequency) or Ebon which gives >1.4K HP to everyone in the group when accounting for all multipliers. That is essential when every DD & healer nowadays uses recovery drinks that drop their buffed HP to 14-15K. Be careful to never use Ebon weapons or shields since bar swapping will result to the group buff being lost, so that set should only be used on the body. If your group support is atrocious you can instead slot a healing set like Bahraha's Curse or Leeching Plate, or if inexperienced and low CP Plague Doctor or Green Pact; if running with players that plain suck at blocking shielding Brands of Imperium may save a few. But those are almost never used by good groups.

The only good sets for tank are Lord Warden due to group resistance buff - equivalent to ~3.5% damage reduction for players in light or medium armor, mostly overkill for the tank himself since it's already capped - and Thurvokun for the AoE Minor Maim which is a 15% reduction; also Thurvokun 1p is maximum health. However the 2p bonus is mostly wasted in single boss fights since you apply the same debuff with Heroic Slash. Other sets that I've tried and discounted due to low proch chance are Bloodspawn - in fights with rare but hard hits (bosses) it will barely proc but in those with frequent small hits (trash) where you don't need ultimate it will do; also 1p stamina recovery is completely wasted on tank. Earthgore & Malubeth - also low proc chance and for the 2nd the same buff is obtainable more reliably from Major Vitality potions. The new ingredients introduced with Summerset actually allow for a very useful combo for PvP and PvE tanks: Major Vitality+Lingering Health+Major Expedition.

MerlinPendragon

Ebon and Torugs is a good set up. Swap one out with Dragon if needed.

If you find yourself dying too much, replace one of those with Green Pact or Plague Doc.

Onefrkncrzypope

A selfish tanks is a wasted tank. The resistance cap in ESO is really easy to get. The application of your tank needs to be fluid. Off tank, main tank, pug or organized and there is different setups for certain trials as well. Grab alcosh jewelry and S&B, after that get ebon torugs and dragon. Always ask the other tank what the other tank and change accordingly. Monster helm is really preference of the group and your role as MT or OT.

Nevasca

Ebon + Alkosh, and monster set of your choice.

Popular monster sets are: Lord Warden, Blood Spawn and 1pc+1pc mag regen. Keep in mind that one is better than the other depending on the fight.

I don't recommend running Torugs in trials. There is a bug at the moment that if someone else is running the same enchant as yours, it will replace your torug's enchant with theirs, when it should wait for the enemy to "lose" the enchant debuff first. Unless they sneak fixed this bug and I am not aware, I would recommend staying away from this set, save for cases when you're the only one applying crusher. Alkosh is better regardless, as long as your have synergizes to proc it constantly, as seen in this nice graphic made by Woeler. Though if you do not have Alkosh, Torugs is ok for a tank starting until you finish farming it.

One set that I didn't see anyone properly testing yet is Aegis of Galenwe in some fights. You would replace Alkosh with this and let a buffbitch DD run Alkosh (RIP). EDIT: I'd go Alkosh simply because it's a awesome set, and I doubt you will find someone willingly to use Alkosh as a DD.

Nocturnal_Annoyance

I wear dragon, alkosh and bloodspawn a lot. Warhorns for days ^_^

gamerguy757

I run Ebon, Plague Doctor and Engine Guardian through vet trials as a Dunmer, so I put more focus into magicka and stamina attribute points since the build gives a lot of health so I'm always ready to spam Shields for the team

UK_ICEMAN

cjechurchill wrote: »

So I am considering changing my role from a healer to a tank to do trials. I am wondering if I should be choosing more selfish sets for higher survivability for that kind of content, or should I still be slotting Ebon for example?

It is impossible to answer this question tbh, you have had varied responses and that is due to the fact it depends what your doing. I have played mainly Dungeons and trials tank for over 12 months now and my setups vary on what I'm doing.

Speed runs on normal trials, vet trials, vet dungeons with randoms? all in my opinion require a separate setup.

What are you hoping to do with your tank?
Run vet trials with your guild/mates?

I have all the sets mentioned above in gold and they all do a different purpose.

Monster set imho is Lord Warden

One set which I would throw into the equation which gets overlooked it Warrior Poet, cheap to buy and very "selfish"!

:-)

Good luck with your tank

Asardes

If you're running at least 2 warhorns Warrior Poet is useless since that skill gives the same buff - Minor Toughness - and buffs of the same kind won't stack. The buff from Warhorn lasts for 30s and you will have one up every 50s or less so 100% up time is easily achievable. Warrior Poet is good to decon for the style item though