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Why don't we see more Maormer across Tamriel?

MLGProPlayer
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There are a few friendly NPCs in Abbah's Landing, but nowhere else. There is also a docked Maormer ship there.

We see Bretons in Alinor, Altmer in Wayrest, and Redguards in Mournhold, despite all of them being enemies of that faction. Tamriel is a cosmopolitan place. Most states don't care if you come from an enemy faction as long as you're not there to cause trouble.

We know that Maormer aren't innately evil like the Sload (who experience emotion differently from the other races). They're just another race of mer, with good and bad ones among them.

They must also trade extensively with the mainland as they're able to sustain a large and modern navy (they wouldn't have the economic means to do so otherwise). This means we should see their traders across the continent.

Is there a lore explanation for this, or is it just an oversight?
Edited by MLGProPlayer on July 6, 2018 8:54AM
  • ArchMikem
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    We dont know the full extent of Pyandonea. The Maormer can very well have access to vast resources, or at the same time the entire Race appears to be an Authoritarian people devoted to serving their king and working to fight the injustice their snide high elf cousins wronged them with. You'd be surprised what can be accomplished when an entire people commits to a singular purpose, often sacrificing basic everyday living the rest of Tamrielans take for granted. The Empire could learn a thing or two.

    To the question of why we dont see them everywhere, because theyre Maormer, plain and simple. That people are just like the Altmer when it comes to their views on the "lesser races", however a bit more extreme. Combine that with their militaristic nature and youd sooner see them storming the beaches of Tamriels port cities than sending merchants with good intentions, their society probably doesn't even have a word for friend, or ally.
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    There a few nice Altmer and Dunmer too. Isn't that so you filthy n'wah? :D
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    We dont know the full extent of Pyandonea. The Maormer can very well have access to vast resources, or at the same time the entire Race appears to be an Authoritarian people devoted to serving their king and working to fight the injustice their snide high elf cousins wronged them with. You'd be surprised what can be accomplished when an entire people commits to a singular purpose, often sacrificing basic everyday living the rest of Tamrielans take for granted. The Empire could learn a thing or two.

    To the question of why we dont see them everywhere, because theyre Maormer, plain and simple. That people are just like the Altmer when it comes to their views on the "lesser races", however a bit more extreme. Combine that with their militaristic nature and youd sooner see them storming the beaches of Tamriels port cities than sending merchants with good intentions, their society probably doesn't even have a word for friend, or ally.

    We meet friendly Maormer NPCs though, including one in Summerset. Just because their society is authoritarian doesn't mean everyone agrees with the regime.

    The Thalmor are the primary antagonists by the time Skyrim takes place (they're just as evil as the Maormer, if not more), yet there are still plenty of friendly Altmer around.

    I just find it unrealistic that they can be so isolated. You would expect to see at least a few defectors, traders, scholars, adventurers, etc.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on July 6, 2018 11:18AM
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    We dont know the full extent of Pyandonea. The Maormer can very well have access to vast resources, or at the same time the entire Race appears to be an Authoritarian people devoted to serving their king and working to fight the injustice their snide high elf cousins wronged them with. You'd be surprised what can be accomplished when an entire people commits to a singular purpose, often sacrificing basic everyday living the rest of Tamrielans take for granted. The Empire could learn a thing or two.

    To the question of why we dont see them everywhere, because theyre Maormer, plain and simple. That people are just like the Altmer when it comes to their views on the "lesser races", however a bit more extreme. Combine that with their militaristic nature and youd sooner see them storming the beaches of Tamriels port cities than sending merchants with good intentions, their society probably doesn't even have a word for friend, or ally.

    We meet friendly Maormer NPCs though, including one in Summerset. Just because their society is authoritarian doesn't mean everyone agrees with the regime.

    The Thalmor are the primary antagonists by the time Skyrim takes place (they're just as evil as the Maormer, if not more), yet there are still plenty of friendly Altmer around.

    I just find it unrealistic that they can be so isolated. You would expect to see at least a few defectors, traders, scholars, adventurers, etc.

    The one errant Adventurer maybe. But understand the Maormer as a people are isolated to an island far off the Tamrielan coast, with the ever vigilant and aggressive Altmer Armada between them and the rest of the world. And to the rest of Tamriel the Maormer are given a negative impression. Everyone who hears of them hears the worst, and rightly so, as the worst are the ones leading their people.

    The one single lovestruck Maormer in Summerset is a rare exception. In this kind of world setting at best i could believe one or two wayward Maormer trying to make a life for themselves on the mainland while trying to obscure their identity. An innkeeper on the frontier isn't going to question why this paying customer of an Elf looks a bit "fishy". But said Elf isn't going to get caught near any town guards any time soon. Nor any local Altmer.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    We dont know the full extent of Pyandonea. The Maormer can very well have access to vast resources, or at the same time the entire Race appears to be an Authoritarian people devoted to serving their king and working to fight the injustice their snide high elf cousins wronged them with. You'd be surprised what can be accomplished when an entire people commits to a singular purpose, often sacrificing basic everyday living the rest of Tamrielans take for granted. The Empire could learn a thing or two.

    To the question of why we dont see them everywhere, because theyre Maormer, plain and simple. That people are just like the Altmer when it comes to their views on the "lesser races", however a bit more extreme. Combine that with their militaristic nature and youd sooner see them storming the beaches of Tamriels port cities than sending merchants with good intentions, their society probably doesn't even have a word for friend, or ally.

    We meet friendly Maormer NPCs though, including one in Summerset. Just because their society is authoritarian doesn't mean everyone agrees with the regime.

    The Thalmor are the primary antagonists by the time Skyrim takes place (they're just as evil as the Maormer, if not more), yet there are still plenty of friendly Altmer around.

    I just find it unrealistic that they can be so isolated. You would expect to see at least a few defectors, traders, scholars, adventurers, etc.

    The one errant Adventurer maybe. But understand the Maormer as a people are isolated to an island far off the Tamrielan coast, with the ever vigilant and aggressive Altmer Armada between them and the rest of the world. And to the rest of Tamriel the Maormer are given a negative impression. Everyone who hears of them hears the worst, and rightly so, as the worst are the ones leading their people.

    The one single lovestruck Maormer in Summerset is a rare exception. In this kind of world setting at best i could believe one or two wayward Maormer trying to make a life for themselves on the mainland while trying to obscure their identity. An innkeeper on the frontier isn't going to question why this paying customer of an Elf looks a bit "fishy". But said Elf isn't going to get caught near any town guards any time soon. Nor any local Altmer.

    The rest of Tamriel doesn't share nearly the same hatred towards the Maorner that the Altmer do though. Even at the end of that quest in Summerset, you can point out to the NPCs that there are other places in Tamriel that won't frown upon their love. We see a Maorner ship docked in Abbah's Landing with several friendly NPCs around town.
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    Probably because the Maormer and Altmer are arch-enemies.

    Kind of difficult to sail all the way from Pyandonea to Morrowind, or most of the provinces for that matter.

    Besides, they see Summerset as their homeland, I'm quite confident that they'd put conqeuring the place on as a priority over anything else.
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