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GOT MY RADIANT APEX MOUNT
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Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭Darkstorne wrote: »It's amusing reading some of these negative comments... how many of you have spent $$ going out on weekends, partying, movies, etc... and what have you to show for it?!? Yet, paying $200 or more for something that gives you enjoyment for hundreds if not thousands of hours... there IS value to that for some of us.
At least when I go on a week end or partying, I know what I am paying for and I get it. RNG boxes however.... It is not really fun to be cheated imo.
That’s definitely half the issue. Imagine going to a restaurant, being shown a menu, but told you pay $20 and they bring you a random item from the list. It’s cool though because if you don’t like what they serve you can just try again with another $20!
The other half of the problem is this is the state of video games in 2018 and the younger players don’t even seem to realize how shafted they are. Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, were $60 for hundreds, even thousands, of hours of game time. Today we have players being fooled into gambling hundreds, even thousand, of dollars four times a year on sparkly collections of pixels for them to sit on in towns hoping the players running past them are jealous and not simply laughing their asses off.
Enjoy your $200 green gummy bear though
I’m sure it feels like a fantastic value purchase when you really think about it!Buying 60 crates does not "pay off for you" unless that green senche is going to go get a job and help pay for all the crates that you bought...
Well when you make 80-100k a year 200 isnt a life changing decision maybe for you it is and thats fine but some of us its like goin to a strip club and throwin money around only at a strip club you dont leave with a shiny green mount
So i understand where you are coming from if you buying crates is gonna stop you from going out with friends and having fun then it shouldnt be a hard decision to not buy them. Just be more open and remember some people have it better than you and can buy 200-300$ worth of crates and still buy a bottle of whiskey0 -
Aebaradath✭✭✭✭✭
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You'd have to do a lot better to convince me you make 80-100k which is why I'll give that comment a -7/10 on the bait scale.Ihatenightblades wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »If it's not, people like you are the reason why real problems with the game are not fixed.
What is really sad is that this is most likely a real person feeling great about spending 200$ in a video game to get one mount. I'm a bit sad that this is how 'gaming' feels like in 2018, but I guess it's still better than P2W. But then again I'm not too sure if the game is barely playable any more.
Some of us arent kids and make 80-100k a year so spending 200$ isnt a real life changing decision.. theres also nothing wrong with having a tight budget and being good at avoiding expensive things that arent considered “needs” ( a shiny mount for example ) but if someone spends 200-300$ i wouldnt call that the face of this generations gaming community. Some people have the money some dont some people drive mercedez benz some people drive a prius its all up to you
But considering just how many games get away with the whole micro-transactions, loot boxes, crates and other crap - I daresay your type of "gamers" sure do have enough negative influence in the industry.3 -
Hoolielulu✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »After 60 crates i got my green senche the main one i wanted in this season. Ya 60 crates is a lot of money in a way but man does it payoff at times.
I FREAKING HATE YOU FOR REAL.
I'll fight you. I'll lose, but I'll fight you.3 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »If it's not, people like you are the reason why real problems with the game are not fixed.
What is really sad is that this is most likely a real person feeling great about spending 200$ in a video game to get one mount. I'm a bit sad that this is how 'gaming' feels like in 2018, but I guess it's still better than P2W. But then again I'm not too sure if the game is barely playable any more.
Some of us arent kids and make 80-100k a year so spending 200$ isnt a real life changing decision.. theres also nothing wrong with having a tight budget and being good at avoiding expensive things that arent considered “needs” ( a shiny mount for example ) but if someone spends 200-300$ i wouldnt call that the face of this generations gaming community. Some people have the money some dont some people drive mercedez benz some people drive a prius its all up to you
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »If it's not, people like you are the reason why real problems with the game are not fixed.
What is really sad is that this is most likely a real person feeling great about spending 200$ in a video game to get one mount. I'm a bit sad that this is how 'gaming' feels like in 2018, but I guess it's still better than P2W. But then again I'm not too sure if the game is barely playable any more.
Some of us arent kids and make 80-100k a year so spending 200$ isnt a real life changing decision.. theres also nothing wrong with having a tight budget and being good at avoiding expensive things that arent considered “needs” ( a shiny mount for example ) but if someone spends 200-300$ i wouldnt call that the face of this generations gaming community. Some people have the money some dont some people drive mercedez benz some people drive a prius its all up to you
Some people buy a painting for hundreds of millions of dollars too, crazy people
If you can make 'art' you can make money off of people who feel they have too much and are looking for an excuse to throw money around
case in point, Cloaca #5
https://gizmodo.com/5145287/cloaca-no5-is-a-monster-pooping-machineCloaca No.5 isn't some fancy perfume from Paris—far from it. It is actually an elaborate reproduction of the human digestive system produced by Belgian artist Wim Delvoye. And all it does is poop.
The machine is fed leftovers from the cafeteria at the gallery which is converted into feces by a number of mechanical processes that reproduce what the human body does naturally. In the end, a turd shoots out—vacuum packed and suitable for framing.
The art exhibit is the machine operating, and the turds it pops out each session get sold as an art piece
To reiterate, it is literally possible to sell people poo if you dress it up as art"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »If it's not, people like you are the reason why real problems with the game are not fixed.
What is really sad is that this is most likely a real person feeling great about spending 200$ in a video game to get one mount. I'm a bit sad that this is how 'gaming' feels like in 2018, but I guess it's still better than P2W. But then again I'm not too sure if the game is barely playable any more.
Some of us arent kids and make 80-100k a year so spending 200$ isnt a real life changing decision.. theres also nothing wrong with having a tight budget and being good at avoiding expensive things that arent considered “needs” ( a shiny mount for example ) but if someone spends 200-300$ i wouldnt call that the face of this generations gaming community. Some people have the money some dont some people drive mercedez benz some people drive a prius its all up to you
Some people buy a painting for hundreds of millions of dollars too, crazy people
If you can make 'art' you can make money off of people who feel they have too much and are looking for an excuse to throw money around
case in point, Cloaca #5
https://gizmodo.com/5145287/cloaca-no5-is-a-monster-pooping-machineCloaca No.5 isn't some fancy perfume from Paris—far from it. It is actually an elaborate reproduction of the human digestive system produced by Belgian artist Wim Delvoye. And all it does is poop.
The machine is fed leftovers from the cafeteria at the gallery which is converted into feces by a number of mechanical processes that reproduce what the human body does naturally. In the end, a turd shoots out—vacuum packed and suitable for framing.
The art exhibit is the machine operating, and the turds it pops out each session get sold as an art piece
To reiterate, it is literally possible to sell people poo if you dress it up as art
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inthecoconut✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »If it's not, people like you are the reason why real problems with the game are not fixed.
What is really sad is that this is most likely a real person feeling great about spending 200$ in a video game to get one mount. I'm a bit sad that this is how 'gaming' feels like in 2018, but I guess it's still better than P2W. But then again I'm not too sure if the game is barely playable any more.
Some of us arent kids and make 80-100k a year so spending 200$ isnt a real life changing decision.. theres also nothing wrong with having a tight budget and being good at avoiding expensive things that arent considered “needs” ( a shiny mount for example ) but if someone spends 200-300$ i wouldnt call that the face of this generations gaming community. Some people have the money some dont some people drive mercedez benz some people drive a prius its all up to you
It has nothing to do with how much money you make. I don't care if you're Bill Gates, someone who makes $100k or more should still understand the value of money, and the value of a cosmetic item. It all just comes down to a matter of opinion, really.
If spending $200-300 for a cosmetic mount seems worth it to you, then congrats at finding something that makes you happy and don't let others ruin it for you.
As for myself, even with money to spend, I'm not interested in investing $200-300 on a mount. For me, it isn't worth that much. And even if I was making $200k, it still would not be worth it. No amount of money that I make will suddenly make spending $200-300 on a singular cosmetic item worth it. But again, that's just how I value my money.3 -
Aesthier✭✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »its like goin to a strip club and throwin money around only at a strip club you dont leave with a shiny green mount
That all depends on how sweaty they got. Seen a few green ones.
Don't sweat petty things and don't pet sweaty things.
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Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭What makes me sad is that there are fair struggling hard working people in this world who have barely enough to feed their children...
Then someone blows $200 or even $1000 on a game just to get a bunch of shiny pixels.
Not only that... They go ahead and show off with it...
If I had those 200... I'd spend it on people in need of help. And no, not charity. Directly.
Then trade in your gaming system and do something good instead of wasting all that money!
If you are playing this game then it means you obviously had access to at least $200 before to get the required system and an internet connection so you could have chosen then to "donate it" but you chose to spend it ona bunch of shiny pixels.
What can I say... I'm glad there are people like you here to pull me out of the sadness I mentioned before. Thank you Edited by Nyladreas on July 3, 2018 8:35PM0 -
Aesthier✭✭✭✭✭What makes me sad is that there are fair struggling hard working people in this world who have barely enough to feed their children...
Then someone blows $200 or even $1000 on a game just to get a bunch of shiny pixels.
Not only that... They go ahead and show off with it...
If I had those 200... I'd spend it on people in need of help. And no, not charity. Directly.
Then trade in your gaming system and do something good instead of wasting all that money!
If you are playing this game then it means you obviously had access to at least $200 before to get the required system and an internet connection so you could have chosen then to "donate it" but you chose to spend it ona bunch of shiny pixels.
What can I say... I'm glad there are people like you here to pull me out of the sadness I mentioned before. Thank you
You're quite welcome! Thank you for doing the same!
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Gargath✭✭✭✭✭
✭I got my Apex Guar from free crates. RNG was generous. Never bought any for crowns. That's a brilliant idea to give free crates. Makes me smiling any time I see people paying $$$ for this stuff
. PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."0 -
Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭inthecoconut wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »If it's not, people like you are the reason why real problems with the game are not fixed.
What is really sad is that this is most likely a real person feeling great about spending 200$ in a video game to get one mount. I'm a bit sad that this is how 'gaming' feels like in 2018, but I guess it's still better than P2W. But then again I'm not too sure if the game is barely playable any more.
Some of us arent kids and make 80-100k a year so spending 200$ isnt a real life changing decision.. theres also nothing wrong with having a tight budget and being good at avoiding expensive things that arent considered “needs” ( a shiny mount for example ) but if someone spends 200-300$ i wouldnt call that the face of this generations gaming community. Some people have the money some dont some people drive mercedez benz some people drive a prius its all up to you
It has nothing to do with how much money you make. I don't care if you're Bill Gates, someone who makes $100k or more should still understand the value of money, and the value of a cosmetic item. It all just comes down to a matter of opinion, really.
If spending $200-300 for a cosmetic mount seems worth it to you, then congrats at finding something that makes you happy and don't let others ruin it for you.
As for myself, even with money to spend, I'm not interested in investing $200-300 on a mount. For me, it isn't worth that much. And even if I was making $200k, it still would not be worth it. No amount of money that I make will suddenly make spending $200-300 on a singular cosmetic item worth it. But again, that's just how I value my money.
Ya but like i said money isn’t everything to some people some people go out and get what they want at no real life cost. So you either in that boat or the “my ego wont let me spend money on trying to get what i want even if i would really like it” OR the “i cant afford to be buying crates every season” which is totally reasonable my only point im tryna make is i think people assume others are emptying their wallet on crates. Maybe some are and thats sad but plenty have good careers and doesnt affect them a tad bit like myself.
I can buy 1000$ worth of crowns every season if i wanted and not be affected but even i myself who loves shiny mounts will never spend more than 250 on 1 season just because spending more than that just feels like a waste not a waste of money but because after 250$ like I said in original post u have basicly everything in the crates so u just throwing money to try to get 1 mount which is why i made thus thread in first place to point out that buying more than 300$ worth is a bad move not because of money issue but getting repeated items over and over0 -
Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
You'd have to do a lot better to convince me you make 80-100k which is why I'll give that comment a -7/10 on the bait scale.Ihatenightblades wrote: »TheCyberDruid wrote: »If it's not, people like you are the reason why real problems with the game are not fixed.
What is really sad is that this is most likely a real person feeling great about spending 200$ in a video game to get one mount. I'm a bit sad that this is how 'gaming' feels like in 2018, but I guess it's still better than P2W. But then again I'm not too sure if the game is barely playable any more.
Some of us arent kids and make 80-100k a year so spending 200$ isnt a real life changing decision.. theres also nothing wrong with having a tight budget and being good at avoiding expensive things that arent considered “needs” ( a shiny mount for example ) but if someone spends 200-300$ i wouldnt call that the face of this generations gaming community. Some people have the money some dont some people drive mercedez benz some people drive a prius its all up to you
But considering just how many games get away with the whole micro-transactions, loot boxes, crates and other crap - I daresay your type of "gamers" sure do have enough negative influence in the industry.
Im a farmer i own corn fields in California and some years i make 100k some years i make 70k0 -
idrankyourbeer✭✭✭seems like an excessive amount of money to spend on a gummy bear, but at least you got it when you were only two or three hundred dollars into it, rather than being thousands of dollars deep and still getting boned by those gambling crates.
ZoS must make a killing off of these types of whales. Such a shame they don't spend even a penny of it to improve the servers, or fix the game. hell as we speak, i can't even log in!Edited by idrankyourbeer on July 4, 2018 8:42PM3 -
idrankyourbeer✭✭✭I got my Apex Guar from free crates. RNG was generous. Never bought any for crowns. That's a brilliant idea to give free crates. Makes me smiling any time I see people paying $$$ for this stuff .
i was rocking that standard sorrel horse for like a year, up until i got some kind of bear mount in a free crate in the winter.
i'm still rocking that mount. i got another free one around the time of clockwork city i think but its ugly and its like a robotic spider or some crap. so i just use the bear.
no way am i spending money on a potential chance that i might actually get a bunch of extra pixels in a video game instead of just the usual soul gem, crown repair kits, and a boat load of potions and poisons and all that other lovely useless crate filler that goes straight to gem extraction. they can find someone else to pray on with those kind of tactics. if i want to risk money at a potential chance of something, i'll do it at our casino.
hell even if they tried to sell these seperately on the crown store, i still wouldn't bite, because i know damn well theyd want to charge an arm and a leg for it just like everything else. i'd rather go and spend that same amount of money on a couple AAA games off of steam rather than some mount or virtual house. and lol at the "limited time only" houses and such. seriously gtfo with that impulse buying tactic. i dare these guys to even try to come up with an excuse to justify that crap, and explain why it might even be practical that if i want to access content that is already on my hard drive in the games very files, i'll not only have to spend money for it, but i'll have to do it right now, rather than tomorrow when they make that option magically disappear. thats slimy.
sure i love the game for what it is, and i can see why people would want some of these items, but the methods of obtaining them are just too outrageous in my opinion. you either pay a fortune in crowns for it, or you can gamble away hundreds, even thousands of dollars and might not even get that item you wanted. thats pretty sleazy. what is this a free-to-play mobile game? what ever happened to the good ole days, where you could unlock the cool stuff just by, you know, playing the game?Edited by idrankyourbeer on July 4, 2018 9:02PM3 -
Ihatenightblades✭✭✭✭✭
✭idrankyourbeer wrote: »I got my Apex Guar from free crates. RNG was generous. Never bought any for crowns. That's a brilliant idea to give free crates. Makes me smiling any time I see people paying $$$ for this stuff .
i was rocking that standard sorrel horse for like a year, up until i got some kind of bear mount in a free crate in the winter.
i'm still rocking that mount. i got another free one around the time of clockwork city i think but its ugly and its like a robotic spider or some crap. so i just use the bear.
no way am i spending money on a potential chance that i might actually get a bunch of extra pixels in a video game instead of just the usual soul gem, crown repair kits, and a boat load of potions and poisons and all that other lovely useless crate filler that goes straight to gem extraction. they can find someone else to pray on with those kind of tactics. if i want to risk money at a potential chance of something, i'll do it at our casino.
hell even if they tried to sell these seperately on the crown store, i still wouldn't bite, because i know damn well theyd want to charge an arm and a leg for it just like everything else. i'd rather go and spend that same amount of money on a couple AAA games off of steam rather than some mount or virtual house. and lol at the "limited time only" houses and such. seriously gtfo with that impulse buying tactic. i dare these guys to even try to come up with an excuse to justify that crap, and explain why it might even be practical that if i want to access content that is already on my hard drive in the games very files, i'll not only have to spend money for it, but i'll have to do it right now, rather than tomorrow when they make that option magically disappear. thats slimy.
sure i love the game for what it is, and i can see why people would want some of these items, but the methods of obtaining them are just too outrageous in my opinion. you either pay a fortune in crowns for it, or you can gamble away hundreds, even thousands of dollars and might not even get that item you wanted. thats pretty sleazy. what is this a free-to-play mobile game? what ever happened to the good ole days, where you could unlock the cool stuff just by, you know, playing the game?
I agree with a lot you said and thats why i have my own limit. Every individual has their own breaking point of when to stop doing something before they start feeling it in their stomach in a bad way. For me 250$ doesnt hurt me even if i get none of the things I want ( which hasnt happened ) but the reason my limit is 250 is because after 250$ worth of crates i feel as im just getting repeats of things i dont need and I usually have most of things in crates after that much but to keep on buying and buying and buying hoping for 1 thing is crazy imo no matter how much u got. 250$ every 3-4 months is my method and i dnt regret it0 -
idrankyourbeer✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »I agree with a lot you said and thats why i have my own limit. Every individual has their own breaking point of when to stop doing something before they start feeling it in their stomach in a bad way. For me 250$ doesnt hurt me even if i get none of the things I want ( which hasnt happened ) but the reason my limit is 250 is because after 250$ worth of crates i feel as im just getting repeats of things i dont need and I usually have most of things in crates after that much but to keep on buying and buying and buying hoping for 1 thing is crazy imo no matter how much u got. 250$ every 3-4 months is my method and i dnt regret it
every time i get free crown crates its always the same. soul gems, crown repair kits, potions and poisons galore. though sometimes ill luck out and get the odd emote or tattoo that i'll never use
thats just my luck. makes me not even want to waste my time opening them, let alone mosey on over to the crown store and be taken for a fool.
but i did get that bear mount. its nothing special but i consider it a victory because these crates are nothing more than a predatory scam, designed to take advantage of peoples addictive personalities as well as to get you you to throw your money away on simply a chance. they know if they put up those 'luxury' items on the crown store for sale on their own for an asking price that might even be reasonable to anybody with a sense of value, nobody would bother with these things. instead they design them to contain 99% garbage, hoping that youll just rip open a couple more figuring the next crate might just be "the one".
sure there might be the odd guy who gets something good that they might actually want to use, but for every one of them, god knows how many other people struck out and blew their whole wad on soul gems and tri restoration potions, and maybe if theyre lucky they might have gotten a few XP scrolls out of the deal.0
