BGs is pointless with all the magsorcs

Strider__Roshin

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

usmguy1234

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Strider__Roshin

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Deathmatch is the only mode type that matters to me.

CavalryPK

Daus wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Deathmatch is the only mode type that matters to me.

Can I get an amen ?

usmguy1234

Daus wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Deathmatch is the only mode type that matters to me.

Well, regardless of personal preferences, my point still stands. I understand the frustration especially when I take my Magdk to bgs. I usually get 25+ assists per match and like 6 kills. But that issue isn't solely because of sorcs either... executioner/ steel tornado spammers take their fair share too.

Minno

Daus wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Deathmatch is the only mode type that matters to me.

why does everyone like the only game mode that has a broken dmg increase buff mechanic, benefits execute non-pvp builds, and teams that execute killsteals that result in winning the match?

Versus say chaosball, all the other PVP modes promote non-pvp playing. At least there, you HAVE to pvp in order to win.

Strider__Roshin

Minno wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Deathmatch is the only mode type that matters to me.

why does everyone like the only game mode that has a broken dmg increase buff mechanic, benefits execute non-pvp builds, and teams that execute killsteals that result in winning the match?

Versus say chaosball, all the other PVP modes promote non-pvp playing. At least there, you HAVE to pvp in order to win.

Oh I despise the power sigil, trust me. I think the only people that like that sigil is ZOS.

Minno

Daus wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Deathmatch is the only mode type that matters to me.

why does everyone like the only game mode that has a broken dmg increase buff mechanic, benefits execute non-pvp builds, and teams that execute killsteals that result in winning the match?

Versus say chaosball, all the other PVP modes promote non-pvp playing. At least there, you HAVE to pvp in order to win.

Oh I despise the power sigil, trust me. I think the only people that like that sigil is ZOS.

That's still not the only thing wrong with deathmatch, at least when looking for a way to measure competitive PVP.

And probably why so many players have a hard time with BGs lately, because everyone makes a certain build that excels at stealing kills in deathmatch and only que's up for that. Versus say chaosball, which allows tanks, healers, LOS mobility builds, sneaky DD, etc to all be viable because it allows tanks to hold the ball and healers actually have an objective both of which offset execute builds from trying to snake kills.

They should just delete deathmatch altogether, along with relic and domination. Keep crazy king (with 1 or 2 flags at most), and chaosball.

Thogard

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Not dmg done.

It should be who triggered the sorc execute to go off. Sorc execute should count as a debuff and the DB should go to whoever did the dmg that made it proc.

Lexxypwns

I won’t even engage a team fight until I’ve dealt with the mag sorc

Strider__Roshin

Thogard wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Not dmg done.

It should be who triggered the sorc execute to go off. Sorc execute should count as a debuff and the DB should go to whoever did the dmg that made it proc.

That's actually a good idea!

Strider__Roshin

I can't tell you how many time I've bursted someone with 30% health and it pops up "Green/Red/Purple team has stolen your kill"

Makes me rage every time.

CatchMeTrolling

You should be focusing the sorc in dm , if your team of randoms don’t kill them you’re probably going to lose unless they’re absolutely terrible. Even then a bad sorc is still a threat unless the team is bad too.

usmguy1234

Thogard wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Not dmg done.

It should be who triggered the sorc execute to go off. Sorc execute should count as a debuff and the DB should go to whoever did the dmg that made it proc.

I'm not ok with that as I actually use wrath as an execute. Like I don't cast it until I know it 100% will kill the player. I guess most people treat it like a debuff but that would hurt those of us that don't needlessly spam it.

Thogard

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

With Mage's Fury auto killing everything why even bother with BGs? All your kills just get taken from the other team anyways.

Until ZOS gets rid of the auto-kill execute that sorcs have it will be pointless to do BGs unless you yourself are running a magsorc.

Kills only matter in death match. Even so I think Zos needs to rework death count to be damage done rather than who gets the killing blow.

Not dmg done.

It should be who triggered the sorc execute to go off. Sorc execute should count as a debuff and the DB should go to whoever did the dmg that made it proc.

I'm not ok with that as I actually use wrath as an execute. Like I don't cast it until I know it 100% will kill the player. I guess most people treat it like a debuff but that would hurt those of us that don't needlessly spam it.

Casting wrath has a DD element to it when the debuff is applied. You would get credit for your own kills.

gabriebe

I dusted off my magsorc for PvP after a year off in Maelstrom Arena, with a pretty simple setup of Shackle/Lich/Julianos. I went 18 kills - 0 on the second match, and I'm by no mean an elite player. Curse/Meteor/Rune Cage/Wrath/Frag is such a broken combo, it's hard not to get addicted to it.

TarrNokk

I dont understand why you want the KB. Its just epeen and none takes notice of it.
What matters are the assists you're doing, giving you the most points.
If you cry about sorc execute, you should cry about any other executes or finishers that "steal" kills.
OR you change your pov.
For me its not that important how many kills I land, most important for me is the number of deaths I didn't have.
But thats my personal thing.
Calling out "sorcs stealing kills QQ" is not the right way imo.

bongtokin420insd16

lol i run a stamblade and im not really good at BG's, but i go and have fun and have no issues enjoying myself. Magsrocs arent even an issue.

Strider__Roshin

TarrNokk wrote: »

I dont understand why you want the KB. Its just epeen and none takes notice of it.
What matters are the assists you're doing, giving you the most points.
If you cry about sorc execute, you should cry about any other executes or finishers that "steal" kills.
OR you change your pov.
For me its not that important how many kills I land, most important for me is the number of deaths I didn't have.
But thats my personal thing.
Calling out "sorcs stealing kills QQ" is not the right way imo.

Having my kills stolen from me by some mindless Mage's Fury spammer is unacceptable, and I will not change my pov nor should I. They need to either change the scoring system or change the move.

GrigorijMalahevich

You are just bad and need to gitgud.

On my stamsorc I still have most kills in 2 out of 3 games (much less assists though).

P.S. Daus you should stop making magsorc hate threads, seriously.

DarkAedin

Valera Progib wrote: »

You are just bad and need to gitgud.

On my stamsorc I still have most kills in 2 out of 3 games (much less assists though).

P.S. Daus you should stop making magsorc hate threads, seriously.

I bet ur stamsorcs implode is occuring b4 the magsorcs impload, thus this situation may not apply to u.

Beardimus

Daus wrote: »

TarrNokk wrote: »

I dont understand why you want the KB. Its just epeen and none takes notice of it.
What matters are the assists you're doing, giving you the most points.
If you cry about sorc execute, you should cry about any other executes or finishers that "steal" kills.
OR you change your pov.
For me its not that important how many kills I land, most important for me is the number of deaths I didn't have.
But thats my personal thing.
Calling out "sorcs stealing kills QQ" is not the right way imo.

Having my kills stolen from me by some mindless Mage's Fury spammer is unacceptable, and I will not change my pov nor should I. They need to either change the scoring system or change the move.

or you can play the other 4 modes... you are missing out on 80% of the options in BG in a cage of your own making. Get a Sorc on your team if you worried about score. Or is it just kill stat epeen that's the problem?

Sorc hate is beyond comical these days

Strider__Roshin

Beardimus wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

TarrNokk wrote: »

I dont understand why you want the KB. Its just epeen and none takes notice of it.
What matters are the assists you're doing, giving you the most points.
If you cry about sorc execute, you should cry about any other executes or finishers that "steal" kills.
OR you change your pov.
For me its not that important how many kills I land, most important for me is the number of deaths I didn't have.
But thats my personal thing.
Calling out "sorcs stealing kills QQ" is not the right way imo.

Having my kills stolen from me by some mindless Mage's Fury spammer is unacceptable, and I will not change my pov nor should I. They need to either change the scoring system or change the move.

or you can play the other 4 modes... you are missing out on 80% of the options in BG in a cage of your own making. Get a Sorc on your team if you worried about score. Or is it just kill stat epeen that's the problem?

Sorc hate is beyond comical these days

I avoided BGs before I could choose DM. I can't stand the other modes.

Karm1cOne

Medals should be reworked to emphasize teamwork, plus remove kbs, and show damage done, damage received, healing done to even the field for nondps builds.

Apache_Kid

Valera Progib wrote: »

You are just bad and need to gitgud.

On my stamsorc I still have most kills in 2 out of 3 games (much less assists though).

P.S. Daus you should stop making magsorc hate threads, seriously.

LOL stamsorc is right behind magsorc in being extremely easy to get kills with in BGs.

Stamsorc takes about the least amount of skill to play in BGs as well. Had a casual real life friend who was terrible at PVP and i helped him gear out his stamsorc and does well now. All you need is hurricane, dawnbreaker, twin slashes and spin to win. EZ mode

Apache_Kid

Also has anyone from ZoS ever commented on why the power sigil still exists?

TarrNokk

Daus wrote: »

TarrNokk wrote: »

I dont understand why you want the KB. Its just epeen and none takes notice of it.
What matters are the assists you're doing, giving you the most points.
If you cry about sorc execute, you should cry about any other executes or finishers that "steal" kills.
OR you change your pov.
For me its not that important how many kills I land, most important for me is the number of deaths I didn't have.
But thats my personal thing.
Calling out "sorcs stealing kills QQ" is not the right way imo.

Having my kills stolen from me by some mindless Mage's Fury spammer is unacceptable, and I will not change my pov nor should I. They need to either change the scoring system or change the move.

You don't deserve a kill which you don't get. One time you get the kill, the other time you don't. I have seen your video and now I know why you talk about kill stealing. Just get better

CyrusArya

Lol. How many active nerf sorc threads can one person have? This guy probably tosses and turns in his sleep muttering “sorc op, nerf sorc”. I really don’t think this game is good for your mental health dude.

Thogard

TarrNokk wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

TarrNokk wrote: »

I dont understand why you want the KB. Its just epeen and none takes notice of it.
What matters are the assists you're doing, giving you the most points.
If you cry about sorc execute, you should cry about any other executes or finishers that "steal" kills.
OR you change your pov.
For me its not that important how many kills I land, most important for me is the number of deaths I didn't have.
But thats my personal thing.
Calling out "sorcs stealing kills QQ" is not the right way imo.

Having my kills stolen from me by some mindless Mage's Fury spammer is unacceptable, and I will not change my pov nor should I. They need to either change the scoring system or change the move.

You don't deserve a kill which you don't get. One time you get the kill, the other time you don't. I have seen your video and now I know why you talk about kill stealing. Just get better

If he was losing kills to a teammate, sure.

But BGs have three teams and the issue is when the third team steals kills without actually engaging in the fight. Sorc killl stealing is a legitimate problem in BGs, especially in the high MMR brackets where there are no free or easy kills.

MurderMostFoul

Personally, I just try and win each BG I enter, so this issue doesn't bother me a great deal.

But I will say that it is pretty poor design for there is a single skill that is sooo effective at kill stealing, and the one class that gets access to it is given an easy-mode for racking up killing blows.

Lexxypwns

I played my sorc today and got 8625 kills and 0 deaths in Chaos Ball match, plz nerf.

Edit: I also did 1 trillion damage and functioned as my teams healer by using resto ult.