Orc Speed Nerf

MrCal

Needs to happen. Everyone is running around as an orc just for that which doesn't even make sense lorewise. Now with the trait swift and immovable pots its nearly impossible to catch anyone, Elder Runs Online is what this game will be called soon. Before people used LoS to PvP, now there's really no need for that.

So please, nerf Orc.

And for all the orc fanboi's rdy to disagree, you know it's why you picked that race in the first place cause yousa runner.

GreenSoup2HoT

You sure its orc and not Swift jewerly?

redspecter23

Orc is overpowered? Now I've heard everything. I was under the impression that the small Orc racial bonus doesn't add up to much overall when you factor in the cap. I'd expect that swift adds significantly more impact.

generalmyrick

what about the sorcs streaking and nb's with their speed passives in cloak?

vampires!

NERF IT ALL! :-)

jaws343

If they are running away they can't kill you. Non-issue.

Vapirko

If you don’t like it, don’t chase. No ones forcing you to spend your resources and time chasing people only to get CC’d and destroyed because you’re out of Stamina. If you’re going to take the bait be prepared for the consequences. This is the silliest thing to ask for a nerf for because it’s totally within your power to completely ignore it.

Chrlynsch

MrCal wrote: »

Needs to happen. Everyone is running around as an orc just for that which doesn't even make sense lorewise. Now with the trait swift and immovable pots its nearly impossible to catch anyone, Elder Runs Online is what this game will be called soon. Before people used LoS to PvP, now there's really no need for that.

So please, nerf Orc.

And for all the orc fanboi's rdy to disagree, you know it's why you picked that race in the first place cause yousa runner.

Your tracking their is a speed cap right?

brandonv516

You don't need to be Orc to run fast.

You do need to be Argonian though to swim fast.

CyrusArya

redspecter23 wrote: »

Orc is overpowered? Now I've heard everything. I was under the impression that the small Orc racial bonus doesn't add up to much overall when you factor in the cap. I'd expect that swift adds significantly more impact.

I don’t know about it being overpowered, but it is one of the strongest pvp races in the game easily.

CatchMeTrolling

Lol you would’ve hated 1.6

Gilvoth

so he ran away?
so what? how the HELL does that make them overpowered?

By the God's if it's something you dont like or something that bothers you then by ALL means destroy it and remove it and nerf it from eso!

runagate

Until the swift trait was introduced Orcs genuinely were a bit faster than any other race. I know, as I've had an orc scroll runner who long ago wore level 23 Fiord's as there was no VR/CP version of the set back then. There once was no cap and you could go pretty damned fast, faster than characters can go now at the cap.

Now that anyone can easily hit the speed cap of double the base rate the orc bonus is now meaningless, as the tiny bit it adds contributes nothing towards hitting the cap.

So pointless troll is pointless.

AuldWolf

And this is why a sensible, intelligent developer doesn't pay a whit of attention to their forums when it comes to balancing.

A near zero value of posts will understand what balance is, and a close enough number to that won't even grok the concept of counters. A good system of PvP is built upon counters, not nerfs. It's companies who're horrifically bad at balance who've propagandised players into yelling 'nerf this!' and 'nerf that!' without any awareness of how that'll actually affect the game. They don't even care about how it'll affect PvE, when they clearly don't play it. I mean, absolutely, ruining casual PvE has always done so well for an online game's long term prospects, eh?

Sigh.

Drakkdjinn

Speed was nerfed back in Morrowind, then halfway reintroduced behind Summer-set craft traits.

It’s never been limited to a race.

DuskMarine

MrCal wrote: »

Needs to happen. Everyone is running around as an orc just for that which doesn't even make sense lorewise. Now with the trait swift and immovable pots its nearly impossible to catch anyone, Elder Runs Online is what this game will be called soon. Before people used LoS to PvP, now there's really no need for that.

So please, nerf Orc.

And for all the orc fanboi's rdy to disagree, you know it's why you picked that race in the first place cause yousa runner.

actually orcs speed really isnt all that. tbh medium armor is where they get their speed their base speed is weaker than expedition with swift jewelry by a huge margin. also im a orc fanboy but i kindve find the speed........not needed were hulking tanks that hit like planes we dont need the speed increase were meant to be a bit slower. but do they need a nerf no not really. the racials are fine its just how people tend to usem and if their running full speed setup they arent running damage their chickens.

Morgul667

Im not an orc but seriously they're fine, leave them alone... they dont even have great look, they can have a small speed bonus

Lichbourne90

I feel like someone is salty because they couldn't catch an orc to Xv1 them

ak_pvp

I believe the cap now is 100% of walking speed. 3x swift, minor expd and sprint is enough to hit the 100% cap. 7 med passives+minor/maj expd+sprint actually goes over a little.

I don't think it matters too much honestly, 10% sprint speed isn't massive, and only really worth on some class combos in heavy, its mainly just a good overall stam class for PvP. Extra stam, melee damage, health and health regen make them good, at the cost of redguard's regen.

And though I'd expect khajiit to be faster, a beserking orc could seem plausibly fast.

Lylith

Drakkdjinn wrote: »

Speed was nerfed back in Morrowind, then halfway reintroduced behind Summer-set craft traits.

It’s never been limited to a race.

and was stealth nerfed (by 10 percent) long before morrowind.

Troneon

Beware the ORC ARMY??1!11!!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KKDNQYIGPw

Aliyavana

why would you care about them taking a tactical retreat? Orcs have something in their kit to avoid zergs and you want to take that away from them?

Thannazzar

MrCal wrote: »

Needs to happen. Everyone is running around as an orc just for that which doesn't even make sense lorewise. Now with the trait swift and immovable pots its nearly impossible to catch anyone, Elder Runs Online is what this game will be called soon. Before people used LoS to PvP, now there's really no need for that.

So please, nerf Orc.

And for all the orc fanboi's rdy to disagree, you know it's why you picked that race in the first place cause yousa runner.

"yousa runner" who is the OP..... Jar Jar Binks?

bottleofsyrup

Why do I feel like OP is a zergling chasing down 1vXers...

eso_lags

......wow

Ragnarock41

If anything orc needs a buff. Talking as a redguard player.

The_Red_Viper

"I got rekt, therefore enemy class/race is OP. Waaaaaah!!!"

That's how you sound.

Biro123

OP:. Orc too fast, he can run away..
Forums:. Don't be dumb, he's not killing you if he runs.

OP: Sorc' too fast, he can run away..
Forums:. Yeah, nerf sorc' mobility!.... And their defence, burst, cc, and sustain! Nerf em all to heck and back!

Um, what if it's an orc-sorc?

Dillpat

MrCal wrote: »

Needs to happen. Everyone is running around as an orc just for that which doesn't even make sense lorewise. Now with the trait swift and immovable pots its nearly impossible to catch anyone, Elder Runs Online is what this game will be called soon. Before people used LoS to PvP, now there's really no need for that.

So please, nerf Orc.

And for all the orc fanboi's rdy to disagree, you know it's why you picked that race in the first place cause yousa runner.

and how about the orc fanbois who were orc long before they got any of these changes and it use to be a dmg buff to gap closers? :P

Juhasow

There is speed cap anyway and You can reach it more or less easy so yeah keep beliving Orcs are OP.

Heka Cain

Oh do pipe down!

Marabornwingrion

Orcs stamsorcs in Battleground matches like chaosball or relicts are very annoying, it's nearly impossible to catch them. I was even thinking about using root poisons lol. But I don't think they should be nerfed, we already have speed cap and this game had enough nerfs.