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Bloodthirsty trait in pvp
mikey_reach
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So help me out here i keep trying to convince my guild that bloodthirsty is pretty dumb in pvp because in imo bloodthirsty is only beneficial in sustain executing(pve) vs burst executing(pvp) in pvp. In pvp i fell like you get better damage from arcane,robust or infused than bloodthirsty. What you do you guys think? Specifically mage's wrath with bloodthirsty.
Edited by mikey_reach on June 30, 2018 6:54AM 0
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Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Most builds kill you already if the execute goes through, so Bloodthirsty's wasted. However, on a mag DK it seems interesting...1 -
mikey_reach✭✭✭QMost builds kill you already if the execute goes through, so Bloodthirsty's wasted. However, on a mag DK it seems interesting...
Because of all the ticking dots i agree but anything else specifically mage's wrath it seems stupid and my guild can't seem to understand.Edited by mikey_reach on June 30, 2018 4:02AM0 -
Jimmy_The_Fixer✭✭✭✭✭Probably decent against healing ward users, since healward is so efficient at low health that it makes them tough to finish off.
Having 1 Magsorc in a BG group that's running 3bloodthirsty jewelry could do work as a designated executer/killstealer, with bloodthirsty securing kills on Tanky/blocking targets. But magsorcs love max mag so much that losing arcane is a big loss.
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mikey_reach✭✭✭Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Probably decent against healing ward users, since healward is so efficient at low health that it makes them tough to finish off.
Having 1 Magsorc in a BG group that's running 3bloodthirsty jewelry could do work as a designated executer/killstealer, with bloodthirsty securing kills on Tanky/blocking targets. But magsorcs love max mag so much that losing arcane is a big loss.
I appreciate the scenario so even then it seems that you still sacrifice a lot for just 15% execute damage assuming that you roll all 3 pieces. Full arcane seems to be way more beneficial. The only time it keeps making sense to me is if you are a magdk or a dot build.0 -
Jimmy_The_Fixer✭✭✭✭✭mikey_reach wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Probably decent against healing ward users, since healward is so efficient at low health that it makes them tough to finish off.
Having 1 Magsorc in a BG group that's running 3bloodthirsty jewelry could do work as a designated executer/killstealer, with bloodthirsty securing kills on Tanky/blocking targets. But magsorcs love max mag so much that losing arcane is a big loss.
I appreciate the scenario so even then it seems that you still sacrifice a lot for just 15% execute damage assuming that you roll all 3 pieces. Full arcane seems to be way more beneficial. The only time it keeps making sense to me is if you are a magdk or a dot build.
It's a niche pick for sure, situational at best. But isn't it 20% per piece? 18% for purple quality? Unless it's been changed since the wiki has been updated.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Traits0 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Probably decent against healing ward users, since healward is so efficient at low health that it makes them tough to finish off.
Having 1 Magsorc in a BG group that's running 3bloodthirsty jewelry could do work as a designated executer/killstealer, with bloodthirsty securing kills on Tanky/blocking targets. But magsorcs love max mag so much that losing arcane is a big loss.
I appreciate the scenario so even then it seems that you still sacrifice a lot for just 15% execute damage assuming that you roll all 3 pieces. Full arcane seems to be way more beneficial. The only time it keeps making sense to me is if you are a magdk or a dot build.
It's a niche pick for sure, situational at best. But isn't it 20% per piece? 18% for purple quality? Unless it's been changed since the wiki has been updated.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Traits
That page was updated on 19 Apr 2018 11:29
month before summerset even released
Dont read fextralife if you are looking for information you dont know. Ever. Half the info can be outdated.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Traits3 -
frostz417✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Probably decent against healing ward users, since healward is so efficient at low health that it makes them tough to finish off.
Having 1 Magsorc in a BG group that's running 3bloodthirsty jewelry could do work as a designated executer/killstealer, with bloodthirsty securing kills on Tanky/blocking targets. But magsorcs love max mag so much that losing arcane is a big loss.
As if endless fury spamming sorcs aren’t cancerous enough, lmfao0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Really really bad
1. Even on a 20k tooltip you're looking at a Max of 1k real dmg (for what you give up, damage all the time)
2. Most player health so low, once in execute range any attack can finish them or if not bloodthirsty wouldn't make a difference.
3. No buff to heals
4. No buff to shields
The original version could have seen play, but was way too OP for PvE0 -
Jimmy_The_Fixer✭✭✭✭✭Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Probably decent against healing ward users, since healward is so efficient at low health that it makes them tough to finish off.
Having 1 Magsorc in a BG group that's running 3bloodthirsty jewelry could do work as a designated executer/killstealer, with bloodthirsty securing kills on Tanky/blocking targets. But magsorcs love max mag so much that losing arcane is a big loss.
I appreciate the scenario so even then it seems that you still sacrifice a lot for just 15% execute damage assuming that you roll all 3 pieces. Full arcane seems to be way more beneficial. The only time it keeps making sense to me is if you are a magdk or a dot build.
It's a niche pick for sure, situational at best. But isn't it 20% per piece? 18% for purple quality? Unless it's been changed since the wiki has been updated.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Traits
That page was updated on 19 Apr 2018 11:29
month before summerset even released
Dont read fextralife if you are looking for information you dont know. Ever. Half the info can be outdated.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Traits
Ok, that makes sense, bit I knew OP was off when he said it was 15% for all 3 jewels combined since its 30% max and 27% with purple jewels.
Also, what's with sneering tone? We're having a nice and civil conversation here.Edited by Jimmy_The_Fixer on June 30, 2018 3:00PM2 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Probably decent against healing ward users, since healward is so efficient at low health that it makes them tough to finish off.
Having 1 Magsorc in a BG group that's running 3bloodthirsty jewelry could do work as a designated executer/killstealer, with bloodthirsty securing kills on Tanky/blocking targets. But magsorcs love max mag so much that losing arcane is a big loss.
I appreciate the scenario so even then it seems that you still sacrifice a lot for just 15% execute damage assuming that you roll all 3 pieces. Full arcane seems to be way more beneficial. The only time it keeps making sense to me is if you are a magdk or a dot build.
It's a niche pick for sure, situational at best. But isn't it 20% per piece? 18% for purple quality? Unless it's been changed since the wiki has been updated.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Traits
That page was updated on 19 Apr 2018 11:29
month before summerset even released
Dont read fextralife if you are looking for information you dont know. Ever. Half the info can be outdated.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Traits
Ok, that makes sense, bit I knew OP was off when he said it was 15% for all 3 jewels combined since its 30% max and 27% with purple jewels.
Also, what's with sneering tone? We're having a nice and civil conversation here.
Would be first time thinking any text could have sneering tone, but if there was any sneering it was definitely aimed at fextralife wiki for confusing people since 2015.1 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »mikey_reach wrote: »Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »Probably decent against healing ward users, since healward is so efficient at low health that it makes them tough to finish off.
Having 1 Magsorc in a BG group that's running 3bloodthirsty jewelry could do work as a designated executer/killstealer, with bloodthirsty securing kills on Tanky/blocking targets. But magsorcs love max mag so much that losing arcane is a big loss.
I appreciate the scenario so even then it seems that you still sacrifice a lot for just 15% execute damage assuming that you roll all 3 pieces. Full arcane seems to be way more beneficial. The only time it keeps making sense to me is if you are a magdk or a dot build.
It's a niche pick for sure, situational at best. But isn't it 20% per piece? 18% for purple quality? Unless it's been changed since the wiki has been updated.
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Traits
That page was updated on 19 Apr 2018 11:29
month before summerset even released
Dont read fextralife if you are looking for information you dont know. Ever. Half the info can be outdated.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Traits
Ok, that makes sense, bit I knew OP was off when he said it was 15% for all 3 jewels combined since its 30% max and 27% with purple jewels.
Also, what's with sneering tone? We're having a nice and civil conversation here.
Would be first time thinking any text could have sneering tone, but if there was any sneering it was definitely aimed at fextralife wiki for confusing people since 2015.
It probably still says Bull Netch only gives Brutality.
Stupid wiki, I only go there for general info about sets0
https://youtu.be/Ao7SpwfoFqg