DPS help

gamerguy757

So I'm trying to get my DPS up on my builds. I have the gear, but I think I'm having trouble with rotation but mostly having trouble with sustain. I have a magblade with 5x Acuity, 5x Sorrow, 2x Skoria and 1x VMA Destro Precise. I run out of magicka soooooo fast and i just learned of the nerf to Siphoning Attacks, so now I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I could really use some advice. I love tanking and healing trials/dungeons, but sometimes id like to get in there and cause some damage. Plus I do miss VMA XD.

I just started a MagDen (dunmer) for a DPS end game since I finally somehow got three jewelry pieces of Necropotence and don't feel like having a third sorc lol. Id like variety in my toons.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. This isn't a git gud thread, I'm legitimately asking for some help

Olen_Mikko

Don't know about your skill slots, but make sure you have constant DoT on, to proc skoria but also to improve your dps.

Heavy attack / resto heavy attack / potions shlould help too.
Or you can put one recovery enchant on jewelry

gamerguy757

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

Don't know about your skill slots, but make sure you have constant DoT on, to proc skoria but also to improve your dps.

Heavy attack / resto heavy attack / potions shlould help too.
Or you can put one recovery enchant on jewelry

I have impale, force pulse/funnel health, merciless resolve, inner light, siphoning attacks, soul harvest on the front bar. Back bar I have wall of elements, twisting path, harness Magicka, degeneration, and crippling grasp and raging storm ultimate.

WrathOfInnos

I wouldnt use Acuity. Your crit is already so high with Sorrow that the Acuity proc doesn’t do much. Try Burning Spellweave, Siroria, or Master Architect instead.

For the monster helm, Zaan will significantly outperform Skoria for DPS, you just have to stay within 10m of your target.

For sustain, try Clockwork Citrus Filet food or Witchmothers Potent Brew. And make sure someone is using elemental drain on your target for Magickasteal (usually a healer in dungeons and trials).

And for your vMA staff I would go with Infused instead of precise and put a Spell/Weapon Power enchant on it.

Troneon

Roll a Mag Sorc. Cheese mode activated.

Narvuntien

Acutity and Mothers sorrow are anti synergy with each other Acutity proves 100% crit so you don't need to build any additional crit... use Julianos instead of Acutity.. before eventually looking to grind Skioria.

Vahrokh

Troneon wrote: »

Roll a Mag Sorc. Cheese mode activated.

... and do 7k less DPS (or more).

There's a reason why world top CR kills had 7 magblades and 1 magsorc and not vice versa.

getemshauna

Vahrokh wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

Roll a Mag Sorc. Cheese mode activated.

... and do 7k less DPS (or more).

There's a reason why world top CR kills had 7 magblades and 1 magsorc and not vice versa.

It's more about healing, not dps.

ResTandRespeC

gamerguy757 wrote: »

So I'm trying to get my DPS up on my builds. I have the gear, but I think I'm having trouble with rotation but mostly having trouble with sustain. I have a magblade with 5x Acuity, 5x Sorrow, 2x Skoria and 1x VMA Destro Precise. I run out of magicka soooooo fast and i just learned of the nerf to Siphoning Attacks, so now I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I could really use some advice. I love tanking and healing trials/dungeons, but sometimes id like to get in there and cause some damage. Plus I do miss VMA XD.

I just started a MagDen (dunmer) for a DPS end game since I finally somehow got three jewelry pieces of Necropotence and don't feel like having a third sorc lol. Id like variety in my toons.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. This isn't a git gud thread, I'm legitimately asking for some help

By far the best build videos I've found are by proNDC. He does a very good job at explaining how to play and why things are done. Here's the video for his magblade. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHbgSNVrhQU
If your on PC skill trackers help a ton with magblades as there's no static rotation, since you need to keep up 3 different buffs, and have a skill (path of darkness) that lasts 3 or so seconds longer than your other 2 damage over time skills. If your on console the best thing to do is to turn on your buff trackers and track cripple and your other buffs, while just over casting path since there isn't any reliable way to track it. If your having issues with light attack weaving there are a few videos out there that might be able to help, but more then anything it's just practicing when exactly to press your LA button after doing a skill. Timing definitely seems to be the thing that causes the most issues with people I've tried to help with weaving. Hope it helps! Nightblades are a favorite of mine

Edit- Like the video says, the sets to run are basically a combo of any 2 of the following sets (besides Mothers sorrow and Acuity, as the crit from MS is redundant when Acuity procs): Siroria, BSW, Mothers Sorrow, Acuity, and Master Architect, with an honorable mention going to Julionos. Zaan or skoria for monster sets, and infused on both staffs with a flame enchant front bar and weapon/spell dmg enchant on the vMA staff. The highest dummy parses come from a combo with siroria in the mix with either mothers sorrow or acuity, though it's not the best set to use in mobile fights like vAS or vMA, etc.

starkerealm

gamerguy757 wrote: »

I have a magblade with 5x Acuity, 5x Sorrow, 2x Skoria and 1x VMA Destro Precise.

Where is this build even coming from?

Acuity is a set that, while active, forces every hit to crit.

Mother's Sorrow increases crit chance, which won't matter when Acuity is up.

I mean, I'm honestly asking, because I keep seeing this combo, and it is basically unworkable.

adeptusminor

A lot of others have pointed out your gear issue, but you also mentioned sustain problems. As a magblade, you really shouldn't be having any sustain issues. A couple of things. They increased the cost of funnel health/swallow soul in Summerset, but added a new skill from the Psyijic line called Imbue Weapon (morphed to elemental weapon) that costs about the same as pre-nerf funnel health and is what you should be using as your spammable in most cases. Since it costs less, that should help your sustain a bit.

The other thing that is probably the cause of your sustain issues is the lack of light attacks. Siphoning Strikes will give you a small amount of magicka return for each light attack, and surprise!, light attacks are the bread and butter of magblades. You should be getting light attacks off between every single skill. You should be light attacking so often it will feel like you are light attacking in between your light attacks at times. All those extra light attacks will have the added bonus of proccing merciless resolve, our hardest hitting skill.

Besides those things, as long as you are using witchmothers brew and not overcasting your dots, you will be amazed at how sustainable a magblade is, and you should generally never have to heavy attack.

ResTandRespeC

gethemshauna wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

Roll a Mag Sorc. Cheese mode activated.

... and do 7k less DPS (or more).

There's a reason why world top CR kills had 7 magblades and 1 magsorc and not vice versa.

It's more about healing, not dps.

What do you mean? Having the magsorc is more about the healing or having the magblades is more about the healing? both have pretty good self heals that work well for vCR and that help the team. Twighlight can help the team in the shadow realm for magsorc and magblades can help the team with funnel. To the guy saying role a magsorc, magblade are definitely pulling higher numbers this patch . They just have a harder rotation then magsorcs.

Aisle9

If you're going for dummies make sure you always have Ele Drain applied and Siphoning Attacks running.

Also Witchmother's Brew, and pots on CD.

Sustain is a struggle, considering random drains for no reason are still happening as well...

If you do all of the above you should be fine on a 6mil, or even on a 25mil if you've got your rotation down to muscle memory.

Also, Acuity is not really a thing anymore, right now we (magblades) sport BSW or perfect Siroria with a vma fire stick backbar.

Hope this helps.
Happy hunting.

gamerguy757

Thanks guys!
So I’m leveling a warden now, bc I’ve been seeing with Summerset now out, Warden dps is really good with elemental weapons.

Now I’ll be honest. I took a long break so I had no idea about architect or spellweave. I finally got. Siriria inferno and I have mothers complete. So looks like I need to find people to run cloudiest with.

I’m on Xbox

getemshauna

ResTandRespeC wrote: »

gethemshauna wrote: »

Vahrokh wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

Roll a Mag Sorc. Cheese mode activated.

... and do 7k less DPS (or more).

There's a reason why world top CR kills had 7 magblades and 1 magsorc and not vice versa.

It's more about healing, not dps.

What do you mean? Having the magsorc is more about the healing or having the magblades is more about the healing? both have pretty good self heals that work well for vCR and that help the team. Twighlight can help the team in the shadow realm for magsorc and magblades can help the team with funnel. To the guy saying role a magsorc, magblade are definitely pulling higher numbers this patch . They just have a harder rotation then magsorcs.

Magblades with funnel health allow to have insane group survability, and refreshing path granting Major Expidition and decent hot makes them strongest choice for shadow realm. In terms of dps, sorc is only barely lower than Magblade.

Jaimeh

gamerguy757 wrote: »

So I'm trying to get my DPS up on my builds. I have the gear, but I think I'm having trouble with rotation but mostly having trouble with sustain. I have a magblade with 5x Acuity, 5x Sorrow, 2x Skoria and 1x VMA Destro Precise. I run out of magicka soooooo fast and i just learned of the nerf to Siphoning Attacks, so now I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I could really use some advice. I love tanking and healing trials/dungeons, but sometimes id like to get in there and cause some damage. Plus I do miss VMA XD.

I just started a MagDen (dunmer) for a DPS end game since I finally somehow got three jewelry pieces of Necropotence and don't feel like having a third sorc lol. Id like variety in my toons.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. This isn't a git gud thread, I'm legitimately asking for some help

gamerguy757 wrote: »

I have impale, force pulse/funnel health, merciless resolve, inner light, siphoning attacks, soul harvest on the front bar. Back bar I have wall of elements, twisting path, harness Magicka, degeneration, and crippling grasp and raging storm ultimate.

I had the best results with Zaan, Mother’s Sorrow and (imperfect) Siroria, but there are other things to consider; for example, Siroria is better for the more static fights because then the uptime will be higher. Also, Zaan is great in terms of damage, but for trials I usually wear Skoria for the health bonus. Mother’s Sorrow/Julianos is nice too, as well as Master Architect and BSW. The thing with proc sets is to find out whether the uptime is worth it over having a set with flat stats, and oftentimes this is fight-specific.

Regarding skills, as people mentioned above, the new Psijic skill, Imbue Weapon, can be used as a spammable, but I still prefer running Funnel for the healing, and I pretty much use the same skills are you do, with the exception that Fiery Rage is on my front bar for the destro staff passives, and I use inner light in place of degeneration. You could also use Acceleration from the Psijic skills or Trap for your back bar, and these will boost your dps.

Sustain is usually fine with Witchmother’s brew, siphoning attacks, and pots, and I cast elemental drain for my skeleton parses every two rotations or so. For me blue food is not sustainable on my magNB unfortunately.