Xbox One X Performance Mode please

CompletelyToast

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

Mystrius_Archaion

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

A sequel to the game with a new engine.

Violynne

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

Microsoft's permission, who has blocked publishers from allowing for 1080p options.

This is part of their ongoing, but decades late, push to get "Windows and XBox" together as a "single" platform.

Yeah, that's going to work out well for us.

ArchMikem

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

You know you can go into your Console settings and lower the resolution right?

MJallday

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

CompletelyToast

ArchMikem wrote: »

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

You know you can go into your Console settings and lower the resolution right?

It doesnt work like that, and anyways I’m on a 1080p screen it’s set at 1080p but It still renders in 4K for super sampling

Karivaa

ArchMikem wrote: »

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

You know you can go into your Console settings and lower the resolution right?

How?

Violynne

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

He's getting at the fact that owners of the XBox One X no longer have a choice in the version of game we want to play.

There are two versions of ESO for the XBox: 1080p and 4k.

Zenimax automatically pushes 4k to XBX users without their permission, and because of this, we lose any control over the 1080p many of us bought the console for.

When Bethesda pulled this crap with Fallout 4 (then released the Creation Club which broke my 750+ hour game), it literally ruined the game because the 4K version of Fallout 4 is worse than the 1080 version.

PC players can control their resolution (as well as install the 4K Fallout 4 textures, if they want).

XBX owners cannot, despite the capability of doing so.

MasturCheef

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

What the duck, this is so wrong.

There are plenty of 60 fps games out there on console. SSDs don’t give you more „speed“ in terms of frames, they speed up general loading times and texture streaming.

Also, this „25-30 %“ speed increase you mentioned... argh, this grinds my gears, do you have any clue what you are talking about? This is so ridiculously wrong, unbelievable.

ArchMikem wrote: »

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

You know you can go into your Console settings and lower the resolution right?

You know you don’t have to post if you don’t understand what OP is asking for, right?

Dasovaruilos

The reason they didn’t do that was not technical limitations (that engine pumps 100 fps on PCs that can handle).

They don’t do this because they don’t want to have X players having an advantage over original Xbox and S players with higher fps.

Personally, I don’t know if that would be that big of a deal, but they specifically said that when asked about it close to the X launch.

MasturCheef

CalmFury wrote: »

Personally, I don’t know if that would be that big of a deal, but they specifically said that when asked about it close to the X launch.

Think about PvP...

MJallday

MasturCheef wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

What the duck, this is so wrong.

There are plenty of 60 fps games out there on console. SSDs don’t give you more „speed“ in terms of frames, they speed up general loading times and texture streaming.

Also, this „25-30 %“ speed increase you mentioned... argh, this grinds my gears, do you have any clue what you are talking about? This is so ridiculously wrong, unbelievable.

no it isnt, its fact.

yes of course there are 60fps games out there at 4k (forza 7 for example) - but the OP is askign for UNLIMITED FPS which is impossible based on the code, engine, and indeed hardware
my statement about the performance of SSD versus SAS disk stands on ESO. try it for yourself. theres about 200 threads on here about it.

try engaging brain and reading before your engaging fingers next time.

Apache_Kid

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

Edited after reading other reply

ssd will only improve load times. But it helps alot with those.

MJallday

Violynne wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

He's getting at the fact that owners of the XBox One X no longer have a choice in the version of game we want to play.

There are two versions of ESO for the XBox: 1080p and 4k.

Zenimax automatically pushes 4k to XBX users without their permission, and because of this, we lose any control over the 1080p many of us bought the console for.

When Bethesda pulled this crap with Fallout 4 (then released the Creation Club which broke my 750+ hour game), it literally ruined the game because the 4K version of Fallout 4 is worse than the 1080 version.

PC players can control their resolution (as well as install the 4K Fallout 4 textures, if they want).

XBX owners cannot, despite the capability of doing so.

Why on earth would you want lower resolution, when both work at 30fps anyway due to the code? genuine question.

MJallday

Apache_Kid wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

This is so wrong it isnt even funny. My mind is blown. There are plenty of 60fps games on the xbox one x

i never said there wernt.....

again try reading before engaging fingers.

Apache_Kid

MJallday wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

This is so wrong it isnt even funny. My mind is blown. There are plenty of 60fps games on the xbox one x

i never said there wernt.....

again try reading before engaging fingers.

I did read. Maybe you could be more clear with your finger engagement as i saw your reply to the other person right after i posted and understood what you said.

Apache_Kid

MJallday wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

This is so wrong it isnt even funny. My mind is blown. There are plenty of 60fps games on the xbox one x

i never said there wernt.....

again try reading before engaging fingers.

Also, eso is capped at 30fps on the one x for NO GOOD REASON. Op is asking for that to be removed so you dont even fully understand what they were asking.

zaria

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

A sequel to the game with a new engine.

That run without issues on pc, not that it is not guarantee +60fps at all time neither on pc.

Console games tend to lock framerate, and yes running ESO on 1080p on xbox x would give an more reliable performance as you have more to go on.

Mystrius_Archaion

zaria wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

A sequel to the game with a new engine.

That run without issues on pc, not that it is not guarantee +60fps at all time neither on pc.

Console games tend to lock framerate, and yes running ESO on 1080p on xbox x would give an more reliable performance as you have more to go on.

I would prefer a locked frame rate even if my monitor was Gsync and the graphics card was capable of much more just because then I can push the other settings more and still have butter smooth visuals.

MJallday

Apache_Kid wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

This is so wrong it isnt even funny. My mind is blown. There are plenty of 60fps games on the xbox one x

i never said there wernt.....

again try reading before engaging fingers.

Also, eso is capped at 30fps on the one x for NO GOOD REASON. Op is asking for that to be removed so you dont even fully understand what they were asking.

How do you know it was capped for no go reason? are you a Zenimax developer?

look forward to hearing back your reasoning on that one.

Violynne

MJallday wrote: »

Why on earth would you want lower resolution, when both work at 30fps anyway due to the code? genuine question.

Stability. 1080p @ 60fps+ runs much better than 4k @ 30fps.

I literally bought the XBX in order to improve my Fallout 4 gameplay, until Bethesda pushed 4k without asking.

MJallday

Violynne wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

Why on earth would you want lower resolution, when both work at 30fps anyway due to the code? genuine question.

Stability. 1080p @ 60fps+ runs much better than 4k @ 30fps.

I literally bought the XBX in order to improve my Fallout 4 gameplay, until Bethesda pushed 4k without asking.

why would they need to ask you? me or indeed anyone?

i think a few people are getting really salty on this. and theres absolutely no need. So let me be factual.

ZOS made a design decision to encode for 4k at 30fps.
could they step up to 60fps? possibly? will they? no.
Would you see a performance diffence? undoubtably. so.
could you make the frame rate unlimited (as per the OP's question) - firmly, NO.

Do you want to remedy some of the xbox1(s and x) performance issues? buy a SSD.
what difference does it make? over the standard SSD - load times between grahtwood and auridon drop from 19 seconds average (based on 20 jumps) to 9 seconds (based on 20 jumps) thats actually better than the 30 % increase.
do you get pauses / the same performance issues in pvp? not as severe as not having an SSD.

the game is HDD intensive. fact.

Violynne

MJallday wrote: »

i think a few people are getting really salty on this. and theres absolutely no need. So let me be factual.

No one is getting salty, but you're clearly not paying attention to the issue discussed in this thread.

ZOS made a design decision to encode for 4k at 30fps.

Perhaps they did, but we're not talking about the 4k version, so why are you continuing with this line of discussion?

There are two versions of this game: 1080p and 4k.
Those still on the older versions of XBox and PS4 are getting the1080p version. This is not a downscale, because these consoles can't handle 4k.

The OP is asking why XBox One X owners can't get the 1080p version instead of the 4k version.

It's a reasonable request.

I won't address the rest of your post because it's irrelevant to the discussion, though I will say one thing: Adding an SSD to the XBX (or any console) only improves the data transfer rate, not the processing rate. Shaving a few seconds from an installed game isn't improving the performance of the game.

testd4n1

Violynne wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

i think a few people are getting really salty on this. and theres absolutely no need. So let me be factual.

No one is getting salty, but you're clearly not paying attention to the issue discussed in this thread.

ZOS made a design decision to encode for 4k at 30fps.

Perhaps they did, but we're not talking about the 4k version, so why are you continuing with this line of discussion?

There are two versions of this game: 1080p and 4k.
Those still on the older versions of XBox and PS4 are getting the1080p version. This is not a downscale, because these consoles can't handle 4k.

The OP is asking why XBox One X owners can't get the 1080p version instead of the 4k version.

It's a reasonable request.

I won't address the rest of your post because it's irrelevant to the discussion, though I will say one thing: Adding an SSD to the XBX (or any console) only improves the data transfer rate, not the processing rate. Shaving a few seconds from an installed game isn't improving the performance of the game.

Actually it is because you don't encounter the loading screens in the middle of overland content.

Thogard

testd4n1 wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

i think a few people are getting really salty on this. and theres absolutely no need. So let me be factual.

No one is getting salty, but you're clearly not paying attention to the issue discussed in this thread.

ZOS made a design decision to encode for 4k at 30fps.

Perhaps they did, but we're not talking about the 4k version, so why are you continuing with this line of discussion?

There are two versions of this game: 1080p and 4k.
Those still on the older versions of XBox and PS4 are getting the1080p version. This is not a downscale, because these consoles can't handle 4k.

The OP is asking why XBox One X owners can't get the 1080p version instead of the 4k version.

It's a reasonable request.

I won't address the rest of your post because it's irrelevant to the discussion, though I will say one thing: Adding an SSD to the XBX (or any console) only improves the data transfer rate, not the processing rate. Shaving a few seconds from an installed game isn't improving the performance of the game.

Actually it is because you don't encounter the loading screens in the middle of overland content.

Actually...

Beardimus

MasturCheef wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

What the duck, this is so wrong.

There are plenty of 60 fps games out there on console. SSDs don’t give you more „speed“ in terms of frames, they speed up general loading times and texture streaming.

Also, this „25-30 %“ speed increase you mentioned... argh, this grinds my gears, do you have any clue what you are talking about? This is so ridiculously wrong, unbelievable.

ArchMikem wrote: »

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

You know you can go into your Console settings and lower the resolution right?

You know you don’t have to post if you don’t understand what OP is asking for, right?

MasturCheef wrote: »

MJallday wrote: »

not sure what the OP is getting at.

quite aside from the coding difficulties, engine difficulties and indeed, the permission issues - the xbox (original, s, 1x) is only capable of a certain amount of frames due to its respective GPUs

if you want "faster performance" on one of those platforms - the only thing you can realistically do is buy an SSD . which speeds the game up about 25-30%

hth

What the duck, this is so wrong.

There are plenty of 60 fps games out there on console. SSDs don’t give you more „speed“ in terms of frames, they speed up general loading times and texture streaming.

Also, this „25-30 %“ speed increase you mentioned... argh, this grinds my gears, do you have any clue what you are talking about? This is so ridiculously wrong, unbelievable.

ArchMikem wrote: »

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

You know you can go into your Console settings and lower the resolution right?

You know you don’t have to post if you don’t understand what OP is asking for, right?

Agreed, as the gain from a SSD is much less on a X1X than previous models or so ive read / seen in testing.

It's already well optimized.

BaneOfBattler

Console affairs...

Dasovaruilos

MasturCheef wrote: »

CalmFury wrote: »

Personally, I don’t know if that would be that big of a deal, but they specifically said that when asked about it close to the X launch.

Think about PvP...

I understand that this is the reason.

I just don't know how big of an advantage that might be, but also I'm not really competitive PvPwise so not the best to judge this.

After playing on PC even on an old MacBook and seeing the game running at 50+ FPS I'd love One X to have 60 FPS too, but I think this will never happen.

NewBlacksmurf

No....that’s backwards

The issue is how the game doesn’t utilize CPU’s not the graphics it’s running

NewBlacksmurf

CalmFury wrote: »

The reason they didn’t do that was not technical limitations (that engine pumps 100 fps on PCs that can handle).

They don’t do this because they don’t want to have X players having an advantage over original Xbox and S players with higher fps.

Personally, I don’t know if that would be that big of a deal, but they specifically said that when asked about it close to the X launch.

It would be a big deal cause of the internet.
Funny ppl swear they are getting C and Y FPS now and unless they’re using an external device (which almost everyone isn’t) They have no idea what FPS they actually get

CompletelyToast

Violynne wrote: »

CompletelyToast wrote: »

Please Zenimax give us a 1080p performance mode with uncapped frame rate. What would it take for you to give us that?

Microsoft's permission, who has blocked publishers from allowing for 1080p options.

This is part of their ongoing, but decades late, push to get "Windows and XBox" together as a "single" platform.

Yeah, that's going to work out well for us.

Microsoft allows it they said The developers can use its power how they want. It has nothing to do with Microsoft not allowing it.
At least

CalmFury wrote: »

They don’t do this because they don’t want to have X players having an advantage over original Xbox and S players with higher fps.

That’s a stupid argument because everyone on PC has different frame rates so advantage is out of the question. If that’s the case lock PC to 30fps. But no they won’t because people would riot wouldn’t they.