Trial Design

CompletelyToast

Do you prefer the old Craglorn style trials, or new mini trials?
I personally love the old Craglorn style trials

FakeFox

Old Craglorn trials

In my opinion the "mini trials" get boring and repetitive very quickly. I personally like long bossfights in general, but it doesn't really work with how most bosses in ESO are designed as the lack clear phases and repeat the same mechanics over and over. I also think trial design in general got a lot worse since MOL, my favourite trial. The newer trials are too cluttered with pointless mechanics, that either do nothing but distract or allow no smart counterplay. I actually like what they have done with CR in comparison to AS, in order to make the mechanics less repetitive and more diverse. But in the end it's pretty much the same, very simple mechanics that only become a problem because the overlap like crazy. I haven't even completed vCR HM jet, but I'm already tired of that trial. I really hope the next trial will be a actual "full" trial again.

RazorCaltrops

Maw of Lorkhaj should be the gold standard for future, non-mini full trials.

While they did a pretty good job with cloudrest after AS disaster, the concept of mini trial is simply boring.

Marabornwingrion

Old Craglorn trials

More trials like vMoL, vHoF.
Less mini trials like vAS.

LadyNalcarya

Old Craglorn trials

vMoL is my favourite trial and I hate vAS and havent tried the new one because I dislike this "mini trial" concept.

FakeFox wrote: »

In my opinion the "mini trials" get boring and repetitive very quickly. I personally like long bossfights in general, but it doesn't really work with how most bosses in ESO are designed as the lack clear phases and repeat the same mechanics over and over. I also think trial design in general got a lot worse since MOL, my favourite trial. The newer trials are too cluttered with pointless mechanics, that either do nothing but distract or allow no smart counterplay. I actually like what they have done with CR in comparison to AS, in order to make the mechanics less repetitive and more diverse. But in the end it's pretty much the same, very simple mechanics that only become a problem because the overlap like crazy. I haven't even completed vCR HM jet, but I'm already tired of that trial. I really hope the next trial will be a actual "full" trial again.

100% agree.

BigBadVolk

Old Craglorn trials

WTB MoL II
+ they could add rune boxes to HM like in AS, which would contain an outfit style and rare mount/pet/personality/polymorph to sell for extra incentive and leave a skin for the vet completion

Turelus

Old Craglorn trials

The old trials were much more interesting. Whilst I understand trash fights are not exciting gameplay with the Craglorn style ones I felt like I was progressing through and beating each boss feels like you're stepping forwards.

The mini-trials just feels like the same thing because the progression is the same boss just with extra mechanics added via the extra bosses.

I also think you can tell a better story with longer trials and potentially have more interesting mechanics like group splits or bosses which require gear swaps.

Sparr0w

Old Craglorn trials

Turelus wrote: »

The old trials were much more interesting. Whilst I understand trash fights are not exciting gameplay with the Craglorn style ones I felt like I was progressing through and beating each boss feels like you're stepping forwards.

The mini-trials just feels like the same thing because the progression is the same boss just with extra mechanics added via the extra bosses.

I also think you can tell a better story with longer trials and potentially have more interesting mechanics like group splits or bosses which require gear swaps.

Group splits are great I'd like non-telegraphed mechanics, e.g. rather that X at 60%, Y at 30%, Z every 60 seconds - I'd just like X, Y & Z to happen at some stage during the fight, then after X Y & Z have happened, they can repeat at the same time, but no pattern to it. (but not crazy like v hm ScaleCaller still PUGable)