the game size is insane!

UglyBunnyCu

After update to install requires 90 GB! I was able to play fine before summerset! Some people say this is only in steam please people tell me is it 90 GB for you too? If this is issue in steam, when linking steam account why can't we download from website as well if its better? I see there are new crown crates out and so much fun i'm missing anyways. Does all eso players have monster computers now??

TheCyberDruid

My Steam version uses 84 GB.

Milvan

No steam here. It occupies nearly 70gb.

Rain_Greyraven

Actually compared to many MMO's that's on the light side

MLGProPlayer

That's tiny by modern game standards. Most games today require 100 GB+.

UglyBunnyCu

TheCyberDruid wrote: »

My Steam version uses 84 GB.

that what the info says, and i was fine with this size, but after summerset it goes all the way over 90, i was able to install game, but when at launcher and it does the update thing, it doesn't finish and notification pops up saying not enough disk size

UglyBunnyCu

Milvan wrote: »

No steam here. It occupies nearly 70gb.

wow, steam version is broken then, i hope they fix or let you download from website, this is ridiculous

zaria

Its an game with thousands of voiced quests in an very large and detailed world.

Note that installing also require download archives and unpacking them before installing. This is to avoid corrupting the game
That increase install size a lot to avoid an failed download leaving you with broken software, this is very nice for an single player game and critical for an operation system or workplace software but an bit redundant for an MMO you can not play unless updated.

And its not the largest game, list has some surprises for me
https://www.gamesradar.com/biggest-ps4-install-size-games/
Yes GTA 5 would eat a lot of drive space, but surprisingly an number of games far smaller in scope use even more

Zorgon_The_Revenged

On my PC I have GW2, BDO, FFXIV, Archeage and they are all in the 30-40GB range. ESO uses 67GB.

EDIT: Only Archeage is through Steam.

Kiralyn2000

Could be worse - the PC version of Final Fantasy 15 w/4k texture pack is 150gb. Whee!

Wildberryjack

Mine is 67.6. How in the world is yours 90?

Kiralyn2000

Does this game have an extra install for beta testing content patches?

Ydrisselle

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

After update to install requires 90 GB! I was able to play fine before summerset! Some people say this is only in steam please people tell me is it 90 GB for you too? If this is issue in steam, when linking steam account why can't we download from website as well if its better? I see there are new crown crates out and so much fun i'm missing anyways. Does all eso players have monster computers now??

Did you do a fresh install through Steam? That can be a problem, since the Steam installer is an old one, so your game has to apply a lot of patches. Plus most of the downloadad files are compressed, and they require more space for decompressing. My install is 84.5 GB right now, but I'm in Europe so I have the files for 3 complete voiceovers (English, German and French) and each of them is 8-9 GB.

Xarico

Well, you don't need a monster computer, you just need enough disk space. ESO is certainly larger than most other MMOs, though, and is on par with modern singleplayer games.

Numerikuu

Well, of course it is. It's a very large world after all~

UglyBunnyCu

Ydrisselle wrote: »

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

After update to install requires 90 GB! I was able to play fine before summerset! Some people say this is only in steam please people tell me is it 90 GB for you too? If this is issue in steam, when linking steam account why can't we download from website as well if its better? I see there are new crown crates out and so much fun i'm missing anyways. Does all eso players have monster computers now??

Did you do a fresh install through Steam? That can be a problem, since the Steam installer is an old one, so your game has to apply a lot of patches. Plus most of the downloadad files are compressed, and they require more space for decompressing. My install is 84.5 GB right now, but I'm in Europe so I have the files for 3 complete voiceovers (English, German and French) and each of them is 8-9 GB.

fresh install? What do you mean?

UglyBunnyCu

DjinnRa wrote: »

Mine is 67.6. How in the world is yours 90?

67 GB sounds great, wish i had it like that

idk

I am showing 136 GB though I do have the PTS as well.

Mystrius_Archaion

Yes, the game size is ridiculous, but the size on the hard drive is not the issue. It just takes forever to download on internet connections that are fully capable of playing it.

I regularly game on my mobile hotspot from my phone due to my home internet being unreliable at best and just down at worst. It is limited to 512kbps, which means download speeds around 60KBps(Bytes vs bits, 1 to 8 ratio). That takes forrrrrreverrrrrrr to download.

DCUO has far more complex graphics than this game and has been around far longer yet it doesn't take up even half the storage this game does or download size.


Hard drive space is cheap. Download bandwidth is not. This game really needs to be better optimized and shrunk, but it is too late. I guess we can hope for an ESO2 like Everquest and Lineage and Guild Wars did in the past, and even Runescape kind of did.

idk

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Yes, the game size is ridiculous, but the size on the hard drive is not the issue. It just takes forever to download on internet connections that are fully capable of playing it.

I regularly game on my mobile hotspot from my phone due to my home internet being unreliable at best and just down at worst. It is limited to 512kbps, which means download speeds around 60KBps(Bytes vs bits, 1 to 8 ratio). That takes forrrrrreverrrrrrr to download.

DCUO has far more complex graphics than this game and has been around far longer yet it doesn't take up even half the storage this game does or download size.


Hard drive space is cheap. Download bandwidth is not. This game really needs to be better optimized and shrunk, but it is too late. I guess we can hope for an ESO2 like Everquest and Lineage and Guild Wars did in the past, and even Runescape kind of did.

I find it odd someone would choose to compare ESO to DCUO since they are not even the same type of game by any measure. Of course people can have their opinions of what they think is better graphics but also settings must also be taken into consideration but DCUO is not even in the same league as ESO.

Besides being more of an action game vs an RPG I expect their world and much more is smaller that ESO. Also making comparisons with far from common bandwidth does not seem appropriate.

Anotherone773

My zenimax folder in steam is 86.8 GB that includes all content that is available.

Sigma957

My non-steam game is 67.4GB, both the live version and the pts are the same size.

MLGProPlayer

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Yes, the game size is ridiculous, but the size on the hard drive is not the issue. It just takes forever to download on internet connections that are fully capable of playing it.

I regularly game on my mobile hotspot from my phone due to my home internet being unreliable at best and just down at worst. It is limited to 512kbps, which means download speeds around 60KBps(Bytes vs bits, 1 to 8 ratio). That takes forrrrrreverrrrrrr to download.

DCUO has far more complex graphics than this game and has been around far longer yet it doesn't take up even half the storage this game does or download size.


Hard drive space is cheap. Download bandwidth is not. This game really needs to be better optimized and shrunk, but it is too late. I guess we can hope for an ESO2 like Everquest and Lineage and Guild Wars did in the past, and even Runescape kind of did.

1. You're literally using dial-up and you're complaining about download speeds
2. DCUO has lower resolution textures than ESO and a much smaller game world

It's 2018. If you're still using a 512 kbps connection, that is entirely on you. I switched to 6 mbps in 2003... I'm at 1 gbit right now. I can't even find an internet package below 25 mbps where I live.

I get you might be living in a rural area with satellite internet or something, but you're in the minority. 99% of gamers have high speed internet. Large file sizes are the norm today.

Kiralyn2000

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I get you might be living in a rural area with satellite internet or something, but you're in the minority. 99% of gamers have high speed internet. Large file sizes are the norm today.

From https://gizmodo.com/if-streaming-is-the-future-of-console-gaming-it-might-1827056790:

According to Akamai, the average internet speed in the United States is just 18.7Mbps, which would deliver just 720p at 60fps. Worse, a quarter of homes in the U.S. are unable to get broadband-level speeds, which is defined as 25Mbps or higher.
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Things are even more dire when you consider the cost of good internet. If you think paying for Xbox Live Gold or PS Plus is bad, consider that, according to one study, the U.S. is one of the more expensive places in the world to get internet. Right now the average price for 25Mbps is $66.17. That price fluctuates wildly depending on where you live. I pay around that for over 200Mbps here in New York City. My dad in North Texas pays more than that for... less than 10Mbps, and I know others, in rural areas, who will be lucky to pay that for just 3Mbps.

tl;dr - The "all-digital, all-the-time" crowd are running toward that future, faster than our broadband infrastructure is. (and the current deregulation, hands-off atmosphere isn't going to push the ISPs into improving things anytime soon)

Chaos2088

MORE MORE MORE!!!! -evil cackle with lighting-

DonWalking

Those are noob numbers! MY XBOX GAME FILE TAKES OVER 130GB!

UglyBunnyCu

Sigma957 wrote: »

My non-steam game is 67.4GB, both the live version and the pts are the same size.

Another evidence, so its confirmed then right? Going to say it again, I hope they're going to fix this or allow steam users download from website as account is linked. :c

starkerealm

idk wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Yes, the game size is ridiculous, but the size on the hard drive is not the issue. It just takes forever to download on internet connections that are fully capable of playing it.

I regularly game on my mobile hotspot from my phone due to my home internet being unreliable at best and just down at worst. It is limited to 512kbps, which means download speeds around 60KBps(Bytes vs bits, 1 to 8 ratio). That takes forrrrrreverrrrrrr to download.

DCUO has far more complex graphics than this game and has been around far longer yet it doesn't take up even half the storage this game does or download size.


Hard drive space is cheap. Download bandwidth is not. This game really needs to be better optimized and shrunk, but it is too late. I guess we can hope for an ESO2 like Everquest and Lineage and Guild Wars did in the past, and even Runescape kind of did.

I find it odd someone would choose to compare ESO to DCUO since they are not even the same type of game by any measure. Of course people can have their opinions of what they think is better graphics but also settings must also be taken into consideration but DCUO is not even in the same league as ESO.

Besides being more of an action game vs an RPG I expect their world and much more is smaller that ESO. Also making comparisons with far from common bandwidth does not seem appropriate.

It is. DCUO has, basically, two 2011 sized sandbox cities to wander around it. It also has some DLC zones, but it's harder to assess how large those are because they're gated off behind significant gear score grind (or were when I last played.)

To be fair, for it's age, it's was a pretty striking game, and there was a lot of territory to bounce around it. On the downside, a lot of that space was, in fact, empty. You'd have a questing zone taking up a couple city blocks, and then empty space all around that where "life was continuing as normal," only to find another bit of anarchy sneaking in.

The vast majority of the game, at level cap, were instanced dungeons, in either solo, duo, or 4 man modes, with basically no other reason to step foot off the Watchtower. Beyond that, most of those instances were reused from earlier solo content you would have cleared while playing through the game.

MLGProPlayer

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I get you might be living in a rural area with satellite internet or something, but you're in the minority. 99% of gamers have high speed internet. Large file sizes are the norm today.

From https://gizmodo.com/if-streaming-is-the-future-of-console-gaming-it-might-1827056790:

According to Akamai, the average internet speed in the United States is just 18.7Mbps, which would deliver just 720p at 60fps. Worse, a quarter of homes in the U.S. are unable to get broadband-level speeds, which is defined as 25Mbps or higher.
.
.
Things are even more dire when you consider the cost of good internet. If you think paying for Xbox Live Gold or PS Plus is bad, consider that, according to one study, the U.S. is one of the more expensive places in the world to get internet. Right now the average price for 25Mbps is $66.17. That price fluctuates wildly depending on where you live. I pay around that for over 200Mbps here in New York City. My dad in North Texas pays more than that for... less than 10Mbps, and I know others, in rural areas, who will be lucky to pay that for just 3Mbps.

tl;dr - The "all-digital, all-the-time" crowd are running toward that future, faster than our broadband infrastructure is. (and the current deregulation, hands-off atmosphere isn't going to push the ISPs into improving things anytime soon)

18.7 Mbps is VERY different from 512 Kbps (0.5 Mbps). You can count the number of households with those internet speeds on one hand. It's barely a step up from dial-up (56 Kbps).

LordPalpatine2015

Don't feel bad, even in September 2019 I'm capped at 1 MB/s download/upload speed due to having country-fried small town rural internet in East Texas!!!

richo262

Update 25 and 26 should reduce the file size considerably as duplicate assets are stripped.