Is it viable to level from level 1 with a Templar one hand and shield class?

Letholdrus

I love the idea of paladins and knights with large shields.

If I create a Templar tank with one hand weapon and shield, will I be able to level using this setup or is the damage component just to low?

TelvanniWizard

It´s good to level up, specially if you have a strong back bar. Once levelled it will make an excellent tank.

Komma

I leveled to 50 on a templar never having equipped a weapon for fun so yes.

Ectheliontnacil

If you want to level quickly I'd suggest frontbar 2h (with cleave for AoE and huge damage shield) and backbar bow (volley as an AoE dot). This is pretty effective to grind huge mob pulls, even at low lvls.

For magicka I'd slot a destro staff with elemental blockade, use shards and spam jabs for healing and tons of AoE damage.

That being said, if you don't care about the speed at which you level, sword and shield is fine. Especially for questing, your character doesn't have to be in a hugely effective build.

Letholdrus

Excellent! Thanks for the information.

Which race is the best RP wise for a Templar? Are there races similar to for instance a WoW human? Basically what I am asking is which race's buildings, armor, weapons, shields and backstory fit the 'human holy crusader / paladin' the best.

I don't want to pick a race for min max reasons, but I want one where it will 'feel' like I am playing a crusader.

Any thoughts?

EDIT:
Seeing as the above is actually a separate question, I will create a new thread for it

Luthid

It’s not meta, but it’s viable.

I leveled my first Templar from 1 to vr6 with sword and shield (not any 1h, it had to be a sword), using all class skills. I put a resto staff on the back bar and did every vet dungeon (pre DLCs) with this s+b healer build, including all speed and no-death achievements.

For solo questing I put a destro staff on the back bar.

In pvp I have never not used sword and shield on my Templar.

redshirt_49

Leveled my DK tank with sword and shield on both bars. Mob killing was definitely slower than on a DPS build but that's okay.

If you have CPs at your disposal you can put all of them into offensive categories and then respec to tank when you're at 50.

That certainly helps too.

FatelessLava

Sword and board templars are really good for pvp so if you ever go in there then the leveling would be worth it. I run a tanky healer in pvp and I love it. You could use S&B to lvl 15 then get a 2hand to help you level up as well. Or use jabs and class skills to help you level until 15 then start with the the 2hand skills.

Or if you don't mind waiting for a few levels use the 2hand or whatever first to get your damage output up then switch to S&B front bar and use the other weapon skills (on their respective bar) to help level up that way.

hmsdragonfly

Letholdrus wrote: »

Excellent! Thanks for the information.

Which race is the best RP wise for a Templar? Are there races similar to for instance a WoW human? Basically what I am asking is which race's buildings, armor, weapons, shields and backstory fit the 'human holy crusader / paladin' the best.

I don't want to pick a race for min max reasons, but I want one where it will 'feel' like I am playing a crusader.

Any thoughts?

EDIT:
Seeing as the above is actually a separate question, I will create a new thread for it

@Letholdrus
I say Imperial. You will make excellent tank and good stamina Templar for both PvE and PvP. It also fits the lore very well, you can roleplay as either a Knight of the Eight, or a Knight of Akatosh, which is lore friendly since a lot of Imperials are Knights in these organizations. Imperial is absolutely the best choice, it is the best fit for your RP theme, it is also very ummm... min-maxing friendly. No reason to choose any other race.

Also your name "Letholdrus" is very lore friendly for an Imperial lol. Now you have to pick Imperial ^^

Everstorm

Letholdrus wrote: »

Excellent! Thanks for the information.

Which race is the best RP wise for a Templar? Are there races similar to for instance a WoW human? Basically what I am asking is which race's buildings, armor, weapons, shields and backstory fit the 'human holy crusader / paladin' the best.

I don't want to pick a race for min max reasons, but I want one where it will 'feel' like I am playing a crusader.

Any thoughts?

EDIT:
Seeing as the above is actually a separate question, I will create a new thread for it

Redguards are a very pious people, make excellent stamina based characters and they get a bonus to leveling up the sword and board skill line.

IcyDeadPeople

Letholdrus wrote: »

I love the idea of paladins and knights with large shields.

If I create a Templar tank with one hand weapon and shield, will I be able to level using this setup or is the damage component just to low?

By "leveling" do you mean playing the game normally, doing quests, delves, battlegrounds or pvp until you reach level 50? Or do you mean leveling up as quickly as possible via grinding mobs?

If grinding, always use AOE abilities, ideally either class abilities like jabs, destro staff for magicka (wall of elements, etc) or dual wield for stam build (steel tornado). In order to level up your S&B at the same time, simply keep adding the S&B abilities on your bar while using AOE weapons to earn XP fast.

If you will be simply doing quests and delves, your build really doesn't matter too much, any weapons, any gear and any skills will be fine. For battlegrounds or PVP, you need to figure out a more specific pvp build, which can include S&B of course. If you want to level up doing 4-man normal dungeons, choose either tank role with S&B or dps role without S&B (but could have S&B skills on the bar)

josiahva

You will do lower damage with a S&B and level slower that way...its fine, you will still level quickly enough..on my first toon I used S&B main bar all the way to 50(and then all the way to VR16) from lvl1-CP160 took about 2 months, the vast majority of that time was spent going from VR1-VR16(CP1-160). I think it took me a week or so to reach level 50. I did run a 2 hander on my back bar for a little more damage...but it was still a tank toon, and never did much damage(and still doesnt, that toon is now retired as my crafter)

DaveMoeDee

My main has been an Imperial DK tank since the game was launched, but he is proficient in all weapons because I did't like wasting the skill XP when all my tanking skills are already maxed. Heck, I would even use addons to swap gear and skills on quest turn-in to efficiently level. Since he leveled from 1-vr16, every weapon and armor skill line is maxed and I even tried to max both morphs for many skills, though it can be hard to track.

Leveling with a s&b is also a little slower than leveling with higher dps gear. At the very least, it might not ruin the feel of your character if they run a bow on the back bar as they should have the range option when needed. Do you want them to be useless when they are unable to engage at melee range? There are dungeons where you need to destroy portals ASAP, which typically means from range.

I also think there is value in trying every type of weapon. You will understand skills other people in PvP or in your raid group might be running. You will recognize the same skills when enemies use them. If you want your paladin to feel like a paladin, you can spin using other gear this way.

Letholdrus

@hmsdragonfly


Thank you very much for the detailed insightful reply. I read up on the two Knight orders you mentioned and a crusader will make a good fit. Also, the stamina and health passives an Imperial receives seems to indicate that the race was meant to be played tanky.

Letholdrus

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Letholdrus wrote: »

I love the idea of paladins and knights with large shields.

If I create a Templar tank with one hand weapon and shield, will I be able to level using this setup or is the damage component just to low?

By "leveling" do you mean playing the game normally, doing quests, delves, battlegrounds or pvp until you reach level 50? Or do you mean leveling up as quickly as possible via grinding mobs?

If grinding, always use AOE abilities, ideally either class abilities like jabs, destro staff for magicka (wall of elements, etc) or dual wield for stam build (steel tornado). In order to level up your S&B at the same time, simply keep adding the S&B abilities on your bar while using AOE weapons to earn XP fast.

If you will be simply doing quests and delves, your build really doesn't matter too much, any weapons, any gear and any skills will be fine. For battlegrounds or PVP, you need to figure out a more specific pvp build, which can include S&B of course. If you want to level up doing 4-man normal dungeons, choose either tank role with S&B or dps role without S&B (but could have S&B skills on the bar)

Thanks for the information. My aim is not to get to max level asap, but to enjoy the questing and world exploration.

Letholdrus

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

My main has been an Imperial DK tank since the game was launched, but he is proficient in all weapons because I did't like wasting the skill XP when all my tanking skills are already maxed. Heck, I would even use addons to swap gear and skills on quest turn-in to efficiently level. Since he leveled from 1-vr16, every weapon and armor skill line is maxed and I even tried to max both morphs for many skills, though it can be hard to track.

Leveling with a s&b is also a little slower than leveling with higher dps gear. At the very least, it might not ruin the feel of your character if they run a bow on the back bar as they should have the range option when needed. Do you want them to be useless when they are unable to engage at melee range? There are dungeons where you need to destroy portals ASAP, which typically means from range.

I also think there is value in trying every type of weapon. You will understand skills other people in PvP or in your raid group might be running. You will recognize the same skills when enemies use them. If you want your paladin to feel like a paladin, you can spin using other gear this way.

Great answer thanks. What do you mean when you say you don't want to lose skill points by not using other weapons?

IcyDeadPeople

Letholdrus wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Letholdrus wrote: »

I love the idea of paladins and knights with large shields.

If I create a Templar tank with one hand weapon and shield, will I be able to level using this setup or is the damage component just to low?

By "leveling" do you mean playing the game normally, doing quests, delves, battlegrounds or pvp until you reach level 50? Or do you mean leveling up as quickly as possible via grinding mobs?

If grinding, always use AOE abilities, ideally either class abilities like jabs, destro staff for magicka (wall of elements, etc) or dual wield for stam build (steel tornado). In order to level up your S&B at the same time, simply keep adding the S&B abilities on your bar while using AOE weapons to earn XP fast.

If you will be simply doing quests and delves, your build really doesn't matter too much, any weapons, any gear and any skills will be fine. For battlegrounds or PVP, you need to figure out a more specific pvp build, which can include S&B of course. If you want to level up doing 4-man normal dungeons, choose either tank role with S&B or dps role without S&B (but could have S&B skills on the bar)

Thanks for the information. My aim is not to get to max level asap, but to enjoy the questing and world exploration.

In this case, you can level up just fine with sword and shield, even equipped on both bars if you prefer. You can definitely do enough damage from your class abilities as well as puncture and heroic slash to kill all the enemies in quests and delves.

hmsdragonfly

@Letholdrus btw, by Knights of Akatosh, i meant Order of the Hour. It is the official name of the order.

Axoinus

Letholdrus wrote: »

I love the idea of paladins and knights with large shields.

If I create a Templar tank with one hand weapon and shield, will I be able to level using this setup or is the damage component just to low?

I did it with a Breton Nightblade. That was built hybrid. Before 1Tam. Solo. While drinking.

Letholdrus

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

@Letholdrus btw, by Knights of Akatosh, i meant Order of the Hour. It is the official name of the order.

Yeah, this order: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Order_of_the_Hour_(Online)

Doctordarkspawn

Great thing about Templar is if you do Magplar tank, you can basicly run a strong, single player build, that can do most normal content. (Honestly I wouldn't step foot in Vet anymore unless you're serious about dungeons and raids and stuff, same goes for PVP.)

Build I currently run is sword and board on the first bar with Puncturing sweep, Vampires Bane, Channeled Focus, Breath of Life, and Puncture. I have a resto backbar but it's flexible enough to where you can run whatever you like, but that basic template is a good setup that'll get you through the entire game.

Letholdrus

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Great thing about Templar is if you do Magplar tank, you can basicly run a strong, single player build, that can do most normal content. (Honestly I wouldn't step foot in Vet anymore unless you're serious about dungeons and raids and stuff, same goes for PVP.)

Build I currently run is sword and board on the first bar with Puncturing sweep, Vampires Bane, Channeled Focus, Breath of Life, and Puncture. I have a resto backbar but it's flexible enough to where you can run whatever you like, but that basic template is a good setup that'll get you through the entire game.

Thank you very much, my Imperial Paladin is currently level 7, and WOW Summerset is beautiful!!

Had to get my head around the fact that MagPlar is closer to a DnD Paladin than a Stamina build to to all the 'holy' / 'light' based skills needing Magicka.

Well, so now I am following this guide to get to max level: https://alcasthq.com/eso-templar-tank-build-pve/

What do you guys and gals think?

Heka Cain

You can lvl stark b0ll0ck naked with only your c0ck in your hand!

Matei

I leveled with a shield and 1h, im happy with it. I cant comment on that alcasthq build because i didnt follow it. I just read and tried the spells out and went with what felt ok for me.