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Magdk PVE set up combos.
scionix90
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So right now for my magdk, dark elf, pve combination I’m using siroria (divines) on body and bsw jewelry and inferno staves. With infused trait on both. It seems to work really well for and I’ve gotten very good at keeping my Siroria stacks high and with bsw procced with it on both bars my spell dmg gets crazy high. So now what I’m asking what works for you? Why? And any issues in trials? If so what?
Thanks!
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Haquor✭✭✭✭✭I have tested Siroria/sun, siroria/bsw, Bsw/elfbane and elfbane/bsw.
Personally i am getting my best results with 2x zaan, 5x elfbane (constant on jewells and 2 armor) and 5x BSW.
All the combinations that do not involve sun are very close tbh.
For solo stuff i prefer valkyn/sun/bsw due to no requirment to build stacks and the aoe ranged monster set.
For trials i kind of prefer bsw/elfbane. Long dots from elfbane and the longish proc from bsw that persists on backbar works well when you need to be mobile or res someone etc1 -
arishok33✭✭Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.2 -
SmellyUnlimited✭✭✭✭Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
I’m guessing the other staff is a Maelstrom inferno? And is it superior still if you’re using a non-perfected Asylum Staff?
I’ve been hunting for this elusive BSW inferno for what feels like decades. Have you tried Mothers Sorrow? Or is that mostly a Magblade set?
Oh last question! Is Elemental Weapon good at all on a DK? I’m hopint not, because trying to weave it is just abysmally clunky and not enjoyable.
Edited by SmellyUnlimited on June 17, 2018 6:50PMDO. NOT. WIPE. (in game OR out!)0 -
arishok33✭✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
I’m guessing the other staff is a Maelstrom inferno? And is it superior still if you’re using a non-perfected Asylum Staff?
Yup and probably no, but I honestly didn't test the non perfected.
Mothers Sorrow isn't as good on the DK since you also use the thief with BSW/Siroria. Sounds weird I know, but it's BiS this patch.^^ Double crit would be overkill with MS.
No, both Whip and Force Pulse (with AS Staff) outperform it thankfully.
Whip out of pure damage and the buff to your other abilities and FP because the burning effect proccs far more often which is where the deeps are at.
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Gallagher563✭✭✭Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.2 -
arishok33✭✭Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
If I ask what I can wear for a class, I want the best combination.
I won't go around telling to people to use a set from which I know isn't yielding the highest results only to have them gold it out and curse me for it later.
Sure I could go around and tell every class to use Julie. Would it make sense? No.Edited by arishok33 on June 18, 2018 5:32AM2 -
hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
Literally any set can work...elfbane can work, julianos can work, silks can work, seducer can work, magnus can work, lol master architect can work...but anyone who understands anything about magdk in summerset wont be recommending any of these...1 -
Gallagher563✭✭✭So right now for my magdk, dark elf, pve combination I’m using siroria (divines) on body and bsw jewelry and inferno staves. With infused trait on both. It seems to work really well for and I’ve gotten very good at keeping my Siroria stacks high and with bsw procced with it on both bars my spell dmg gets crazy high. So now what I’m asking what works for you? Why? And any issues in trials? If so what?
Thanks!
This was the question posted. Just because you feel that something isn't as good doesn't mean you have to disparage the set or anyone who uses it. The OP is asking for options. Yes we agree what he is using is best but that doesn't take away from the fact that other things are viable.1 -
arishok33✭✭Gallagher563 wrote: »So right now for my magdk, dark elf, pve combination I’m using siroria (divines) on body and bsw jewelry and inferno staves. With infused trait on both. It seems to work really well for and I’ve gotten very good at keeping my Siroria stacks high and with bsw procced with it on both bars my spell dmg gets crazy high. So now what I’m asking what works for you? Why? And any issues in trials? If so what?
Thanks!
This was the question posted. Just because you feel that something isn't as good doesn't mean you have to disparage the set or anyone who uses it. The OP is asking for options. Yes we agree what he is using is best but that doesn't take away from the fact that other things are viable.
Dude then run it but don't forget to QQ when you can't even hit 45k with it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
Literally any set can work...elfbane can work, julianos can work, silks can work, seducer can work, magnus can work, lol master architect can work...but anyone who understands anything about magdk in summerset wont be recommending any of these...
Correct me if I am wrong, but if you really are seeing better results with Elf Bane than other sets, it probably means your rotation isnt very good. Elf Bane means longer DoTs, which means it will likely cover the holes in your rotation a bit better. It's not that its a bad set, its just that really good DKs are going to do better with other stuff.
If you can manage Siroria, its BIS. I have been playing with Siroria for about a week now. The damage is awesome, but it can make you play risky sometimes when trying to stay in your ring. As long as you are aware of it, its not bad to manage.
OP: Only changes I would make would be to back bar a VMA staff, and make sure you carry a few monster sets with you. I think you can make arguments for Zaan, Grothdar, and Skoria, depending on content. For ST, you wont beat Zaan.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on June 18, 2018 3:52PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
Literally any set can work...elfbane can work, julianos can work, silks can work, seducer can work, magnus can work, lol master architect can work...but anyone who understands anything about magdk in summerset wont be recommending any of these...
Correct me if I am wrong, but if you really are seeing better results with Elf Bane than other sets, it probably means your rotation isnt very good. Elf Bane means longer DoTs, which means it will likely cover the holes in your rotation a bit better. It's not that its a bad set, its just that really good DKs are going to do better with other stuff.
If you can manage Siroria, its BIS. I have been playing with Siroria for about a week now. The damage is awesome, but it can make you play risky sometimes when trying to stay in your ring. As long as you are aware of it, its not bad to manage.
Elf bane also allows for more time to use whip. You can squeeze a few more in before you need to apply your dots again.1 -
hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
Literally any set can work...elfbane can work, julianos can work, silks can work, seducer can work, magnus can work, lol master architect can work...but anyone who understands anything about magdk in summerset wont be recommending any of these...
Correct me if I am wrong, but if you really are seeing better results with Elf Bane than other sets, it probably means your rotation isnt very good. Elf Bane means longer DoTs, which means it will likely cover the holes in your rotation a bit better. It's not that its a bad set, its just that really good DKs are going to do better with other stuff.
If you can manage Siroria, its BIS. I have been playing with Siroria for about a week now. The damage is awesome, but it can make you play risky sometimes when trying to stay in your ring. As long as you are aware of it, its not bad to manage.
OP: Only changes I would make would be to back bar a VMA staff, and make sure you carry a few monster sets with you. I think you can make arguments for Zaan, Grothdar, and Skoria, depending on content. For ST, you wont beat Zaan.
Yeah...but rotation just changes from 5/2 to 7/4...not crazy different, but yes I agree. Main issue is you cant really pair elfbane well with siroria, since siroria on both bars is a must0 -
arishok33✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
Literally any set can work...elfbane can work, julianos can work, silks can work, seducer can work, magnus can work, lol master architect can work...but anyone who understands anything about magdk in summerset wont be recommending any of these...
Correct me if I am wrong, but if you really are seeing better results with Elf Bane than other sets, it probably means your rotation isnt very good. Elf Bane means longer DoTs, which means it will likely cover the holes in your rotation a bit better. It's not that its a bad set, its just that really good DKs are going to do better with other stuff.
If you can manage Siroria, its BIS. I have been playing with Siroria for about a week now. The damage is awesome, but it can make you play risky sometimes when trying to stay in your ring. As long as you are aware of it, its not bad to manage.
OP: Only changes I would make would be to back bar a VMA staff, and make sure you carry a few monster sets with you. I think you can make arguments for Zaan, Grothdar, and Skoria, depending on content. For ST, you wont beat Zaan.
Thats exsctly it. Elf Bane can help with rotation issues, but it's really bad when compared to other dps sets.0 -
scionix90✭✭✭I’ve tried a few of the suggestions out and so far the best results come from siroria // bsw on both bars. Thanks all for the suggestions, I really like to know everyone’s opinions.1
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Haquor✭✭✭✭✭Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
If I ask what I can wear for a class, I want the best combination.
I won't go around telling to people to use a set from which I know isn't yielding the highest results only to have them gold it out and curse me for it later.
Sure I could go around and tell every class to use Julie. Would it make sense? No.
So siroria is best in all trial fights? And is that perfected only or including imperfect?Edited by Haquor on June 23, 2018 2:22AM0 -
arishok33✭✭Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
If I ask what I can wear for a class, I want the best combination.
I won't go around telling to people to use a set from which I know isn't yielding the highest results only to have them gold it out and curse me for it later.
Sure I could go around and tell every class to use Julie. Would it make sense? No.
So siroria is best in all trial fights? And is that perfected only or including imperfect?
Imperfected one as well. Only fight I don't use it is vAS+2. Too much running around.^^
There is an addon called Siroria that shows the timer of the stacks and when you can deploy the circle again.
With that you can keep it up in mobile fights pretty good as well.0 -
hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gallagher563 wrote: »Don't use Elf Bane, it's not a good set DPS wise.
Siroria/BSW like you already use is the best combo when using whip.
The other alternative which yields roughly the same damage ist Siroria/Willpower/AS Staff with Force Pulse.
Both able to push 48-49k.
Stop saying Elf Bane is not a good DPS set. Yes I acknowledge it isn't BIS but it still has a purpose and is in line with Silks of the Sun and Julie. I like it because it helps with sustain and it is another option. Dismissing the set outright is not helping and makes you sound elitist.
If I ask what I can wear for a class, I want the best combination.
I won't go around telling to people to use a set from which I know isn't yielding the highest results only to have them gold it out and curse me for it later.
Sure I could go around and tell every class to use Julie. Would it make sense? No.
So siroria is best in all trial fights? And is that perfected only or including imperfect?
Imperfected one as well. Only fight I don't use it is vAS+2. Too much running around.^^
There is an addon called Siroria that shows the timer of the stacks and when you can deploy the circle again.
With that you can keep it up in mobile fights pretty good as well.
It's best in vas as well1