buff sloads
Swimguy
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Id rather not fight 13K+ wards in PvP.
or make elemental weapon do oblivion damage against damage shields?
or make elemental weapon do oblivion damage against damage shields?
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Swimguy✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »How about you BG then?
I was in battlegrounds lol, player had 17k hp and shield covered nearly all of his hp bar2 -
Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Waffennacht wrote: »How about you BG then?
I was in battlegrounds lol, player had 17k hp and shield covered nearly all of his hp bar
Maybe 2 shields, definitely not 12 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Also buff Zaan so that 1 tick is a 20k proc. We clearly need more one shots as they lessen served load significantly.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
Lichbourne90✭✭✭Bring back the old viper tremor blackrose build!Edited by Lichbourne90 on June 15, 2018 5:45PM3
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
It’s neither a glitch nor an exploit. It’s just a defense mechanic you obviously struggle to deal with, according to your postings. But that doesn’t make it fall into the above two categories.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.3 -
DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
you are running shieldbreaker AND sloads and you still complain about shields...like wtf?4 -
Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.PC/EU DC4 -
Swimguy✭✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
lol but its really not hard to just get them out of cloak. On my dk its super easy just use volatile armor.... you have plenty other options though. Maybe if we had a skill to completely remove shields? LOL2 -
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ive played my petsorc that is meant for vma and i can ez tank 2 people (daily rewards). if my build was made for pvp im sure itd be better0 -
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✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
lol but its really not hard to just get them out of cloak. On my dk its super easy just use volatile armor.... you have plenty other options though. Maybe if we had a skill to completely remove shields? LOL
Learn how to count, learn how to cc and learn how to burst.PC/EU DC0 -
Swimguy✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »How about you BG then?
I was in battlegrounds lol, player had 17k hp and shield covered nearly all of his hp bar
Maybe 2 shields, definitely not 1
either way its 17k whats the difference. the problem is that there is NO COUNTER PLAY. You can re apply shields before they run out. The CC after 4-5 seconds trick is okay but doesnt work against GOOD players.1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭in the case where "stacking shields" is used as a defense:
they are able to kill everyone and keep everyone out of stealth.
in the case where "casting invisibility" is used as a defense:
they are able to escape and defend, nothing more. (no one died)
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
that exploit was removed in patch.
your shield stacking was not.1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
you are running shieldbreaker AND sloads and you still complain about shields...like wtf?
i do not wear sloads armor set.
infact for several reasons.
here was my thinking in the PTS:
i used it and golded it out and tried it repeatedly in both pvp and pve and it just was weak for me and also it did not proc when i wanted it to, sometimes it did proc when i wanted but most of the time it was random proc and did weak damage.
what made me stay away from it the most and i droped it like a hot potato was the fact that i myself as a wearer of sloads could not stealth nor cloak because it takes ME out of cloak to put a DOT on someone, forced me out of cloak.
at that point, and seeing all those bad things, i knew it was not a good set.0 -
Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
that exploit was removed in patch.
your shield stacking was not.
I'm not a shield stacker. I play DK. I just learned how to deal with shields that doesn't involve sets with no counterplay or whining about it on the forums.
P.S I also don't have a problem with cloak. You think sorcs only defense is unfair but many would say the same about nightblades only defense. That is all I was trying to point out in my post.PC/EU DC0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lichbourne90 wrote: »Bring back the old viper tremor blackrose build!
when I see newest mag procs like zaan, calurion etc + now sload I miss old stamina procs like even this tremor with snare to death xD, old insta dmg viper exploited by weapon enchants to proc it with snipe at 40m+ range etc0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
that exploit was removed in patch.
your shield stacking was not.
I also don't have a problem with cloak. You think sorcs only defense is unfair but many would say the same about nightblades only defense. That is all I was trying to point out in my post.
and i explained how shields are not fair but being able to cloak is fair.
because:
we casting invisibility are able to escape and defend, nothing more. (no one died)
but in the case of shield stacking they are able to kill entire groups of people and not die because they can constantly shield stack.
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✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »How about you BG then?
I was in battlegrounds lol, player had 17k hp and shield covered nearly all of his hp bar
When I’m in PVE my shield is actually bigger than my entire health pool. I’m not even a sorc.0 -
Swimguy✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
that exploit was removed in patch.
your shield stacking was not.
I also don't have a problem with cloak. You think sorcs only defense is unfair but many would say the same about nightblades only defense. That is all I was trying to point out in my post.
and i explained how shields are not fair but being able to cloak is fair.
because:
we casting invisibility are able to escape and defend, nothing more. (no one died)
but in the case of shield stacking they are able to kill entire groups of people and not die because they can constantly shield stack.
Idk I reset fight with invis and heavy attack incap for massive burst a lot, and it works a lot. cloak is undeniably strong but it can be countered much easier than shields and is not as easily spammable0 -
Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
that exploit was removed in patch.
your shield stacking was not.
I also don't have a problem with cloak. You think sorcs only defense is unfair but many would say the same about nightblades only defense. That is all I was trying to point out in my post.
and i explained how shields are not fair but being able to cloak is fair.
because:
we casting invisibility are able to escape and defend, nothing more. (no one died)
but in the case of shield stacking they are able to kill entire groups of people and not die because they can constantly shield stack.
And people would argue that being able to reset a fight and set up your burst again with the class with the most burst is unfair. Don't act like night blades just use cloak to run away. They use cloak to set up a burst in which people would die.PC/EU DC0 -
Swimguy✭✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
that exploit was removed in patch.
your shield stacking was not.
I'm not a shield stacker. I play DK. I just learned how to deal with shields that doesn't involve sets with no counterplay or whining about it on the forums.
P.S I also don't have a problem with cloak. You think sorcs only defense is unfair but many would say the same about nightblades only defense. That is all I was trying to point out in my post.
Im not saying literally remove them, I just want them to be toned down a bit. free 100% crit resist and immunity to resistance debuffs+massive protection from damage while active kes shields by far the most efficient skill/best types of skills in the game. Sorc also have things like crit surge, and rune cag and daedric mines. That is plenty.0 -
Swimguy✭✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
that exploit was removed in patch.
your shield stacking was not.
I'm not a shield stacker. I play DK. I just learned how to deal with shields that doesn't involve sets with no counterplay or whining about it on the forums.
P.S I also don't have a problem with cloak. You think sorcs only defense is unfair but many would say the same about nightblades only defense. That is all I was trying to point out in my post.
Im not saying literally remove them, I just want them to be toned down a bit. free 100% crit resist and immunity to resistance debuffs+massive protection from damage while active kes shields by far the most efficient skill/best types of skills in the game. Sorc also have things like crit surge, and rune cag and daedric mines. That is plenty.
sorcs can ez one shot people. why give them one of the best if not the best (and easy to use) defensive skill in the game. Also pets can tank a lot of damage both PvE and in PvP (sometimes you cant help but hit the pet with a few skills).0 -
Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Luigi_Vampa wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »when you see several shades of purple covering thier 2% health slice, and thier red HP line is like a sliver small and the rest is 98% shields is just stupid.
that's not pvp.
what that is is a trained exploit.
i find it impossible to believe that the developers thought stacking shields was a good idea.
some one found a glitch with shields and trained others to do it.
When you have a night blade down to a sliver of health and they cloak and reappear with full health.
That's not pvp
What that is is a trained exploit.
I find it impossible to believe that the developers thought invisibility was a good idea.
Someone found a glitch with cloak and trained others to do it.
that exploit was removed in patch.
your shield stacking was not.
I'm not a shield stacker. I play DK. I just learned how to deal with shields that doesn't involve sets with no counterplay or whining about it on the forums.
P.S I also don't have a problem with cloak. You think sorcs only defense is unfair but many would say the same about nightblades only defense. That is all I was trying to point out in my post.
Im not saying literally remove them, I just want them to be toned down a bit. free 100% crit resist and immunity to resistance debuffs+massive protection from damage while active kes shields by far the most efficient skill/best types of skills in the game. Sorc also have things like crit surge, and rune cag and daedric mines. That is plenty.
sorcs can ez one shot people. why give them one of the best if not the best (and easy to use) defensive skill in the game. Also pets can tank a lot of damage both PvE and in PvP (sometimes you cant help but hit the pet with a few skills).
Sorcs can't one shot people. They have the most predictable burst in the game. Rune cage is a bit overtuned right now, but sorcs are predictable.PC/EU DC1
