Questions about Alcasts updated pvp stamwarden build.

LittlePinkDot

So I had started a starwarden. I was going to try Alcasts pvp Stamwarden build from dragonbones. Werewolf hide, 2h and werewolf ultimate on backbar for the 15% stamina regen... Then came Summerset...
Now its completely different. I like the addition of SNB because of the reverberating bash. But why lose the werewolf ultimate and werewolf hide and use bone pirates instead?.. And hes added bullnetch and leaching vines and some healing ultimate, why? Especially leaching vines. It seems like waste of a slot for very little healing. Warden already has a butst heal, that mushroom skill whatever its called. And if you just keep werewolf ultimate slotted then you shouldnt need bonepirates. And if you dont need bonepirates then you can wear werewolf hide and wouldnt have to use heroic slash for ultimate generation.
Instead I could use shield charge for a gap closer.
And if sustain is an issue then why not just put more cp into mooncalf.
Mostly I dont like the leaching vines and that ultimate healing thicket. I dont understand why hes using it.

Hutch679

Uh, maybe just ask Alcast? ....

idk

^^^^

Alcast is great at responding. One of the most supportive of the ESO community we have.

LittlePinkDot

idk wrote: »

^^^^

Alcast is great at responding. One of the most supportive of the ESO community we have.

I figured someone on the forum would know.
Didnt really feel like bothering him.

Thogard

I dropped bloodspawn and added trollking to my own warden build. What he did seems like a pretty similar change. It's all in response to all these noobs running around with the sloads hanging out. Master DW + durok + sload is just too common now because it's such an easy win.

LittlePinkDot

Thogard wrote: »

I dropped bloodspawn and added trollking to my own warden build. What he did seems like a pretty similar change. It's all in response to all these noobs running around with the sloads hanging out. Master DW + durok + sload is just too common now because it's such an easy win.

So in otherwords.. Healing.
Ok so then Ill just use that mushroom stam morph burst heal instead of the vines and healing thicket. I can keep werewolf form and werewolf hide.

I was so happy to see that 7th Legion and werewolf hide could be bought at guildtraders.
I might actually get a finished functioning pvp character some time before next century.

Thogard

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

I dropped bloodspawn and added trollking to my own warden build. What he did seems like a pretty similar change. It's all in response to all these noobs running around with the sloads hanging out. Master DW + durok + sload is just too common now because it's such an easy win.

So in otherwords.. Healing.
Ok so then Ill just use that mushroom stam morph burst heal instead of the vines and healing thicket. I can keep werewolf form and werewolf hide.

I was so happy to see that 7th Legion and werewolf hide could be bought at guildtraders.
I might actually get a finished functioning pvp character some time before next century.

Not healing as in burst heals, but healing as in heals over time. Lotus/Vines/vigor/ lingering health pots / troll king / spiderman, etc...

there are too many dots in the game right now that are easily applied to stamina classes. Bust heal is a spammable heal, which is great, but it isn't the most efficient heal. youll get far more total healing (albeit spread out over a longer period of time) from the skills / tactics mentioned above.. they aren't the best for countering burst, but they are the best for countering dots.

for real tho, we are in a defile / dot meta atm.. and stamden is a heal / burst class. It is a tough class to play at the moment. But then again so is every other class.... so yeah. best of luck out there.

Knowledge

If you go on Alcast's discord he will explain it to you if you ask him. That or his twitch when he's streaming. He's really good at answering questions about his builds and a pretty nice guy.

LittlePinkDot

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Thogard wrote: »

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

I dropped bloodspawn and added trollking to my own warden build. What he did seems like a pretty similar change. It's all in response to all these noobs running around with the sloads hanging out. Master DW + durok + sload is just too common now because it's such an easy win.

So in otherwords.. Healing.
Ok so then Ill just use that mushroom stam morph burst heal instead of the vines and healing thicket. I can keep werewolf form and werewolf hide.

I was so happy to see that 7th Legion and werewolf hide could be bought at guildtraders.
I might actually get a finished functioning pvp character some time before next century.

Not healing as in burst heals, but healing as in heals over time. Lotus/Vines/vigor/ lingering health pots / troll king / spiderman, etc...

there are too many dots in the game right now that are easily applied to stamina classes. Bust heal is a spammable heal, which is great, but it isn't the most efficient heal. youll get far more total healing (albeit spread out over a longer period of time) from the skills / tactics mentioned above.. they aren't the best for countering burst, but they are the best for countering dots.

for real tho, we are in a defile / dot meta atm.. and stamden is a heal / burst class. It is a tough class to play at the moment. But then again so is every other class.... so yeah. best of luck out there.

Hmm ok then how about Rally instead of Forward Momentum. Instead of 3x jewlery+weapon, werewolf hide will be the armour pieces. Then I can use shuffle for snare removal instead. Get the 5 piece medium armor bonuses too.

amir412

LittlePinkDot wrote: »

So I had started a starwarden. I was going to try Alcasts pvp Stamwarden build from dragonbones. Werewolf hide, 2h and werewolf ultimate on backbar for the 15% stamina regen... Then came Summerset...
Now its completely different. I like the addition of SNB because of the reverberating bash. But why lose the werewolf ultimate and werewolf hide and use bone pirates instead?.. And hes added bullnetch and leaching vines and some healing ultimate, why? Especially leaching vines. It seems like waste of a slot for very little healing. Warden already has a butst heal, that mushroom skill whatever its called. And if you just keep werewolf ultimate slotted then you shouldnt need bonepirates. And if you dont need bonepirates then you can wear werewolf hide and wouldnt have to use heroic slash for ultimate generation.
Instead I could use shield charge for a gap closer.
And if sustain is an issue then why not just put more cp into mooncalf.
Mostly I dont like the leaching vines and that ultimate healing thicket. I dont understand why hes using it.

Leeching vines is a really good skill first of all, it has insane healings and makes warden super tanky.
Also, my opinion of warden using WW hide (inspired by soimion( is that its tottaly waste of gear slots, u can have permenant major heroism, so why bother with ww hide?