Small man/solo Magplar PvP.

Animus-ESO

It's me battletoadz dropping my second PvP video. Dummerset patch has been really tough for small man and solo PvP so this is all I got so far. Hope you enjoy.

https://youtu.be/wLqIbTvPSjY

casparian

keeping the magplar dream alive.

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Total dark is great when playing against people who don't know to break it. Just slap it on everybody and let them hit themselves in the face until they die.

Animus-ESO

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Total dark is great when playing against people who don't know to break it. Just slap it on everybody and let them hit themselves in the face until they die.

Right? Well it's still useful for experienced players too. Put it on a sorc mid combo, then after 2 ticks CC them with destructive reach or javelin and they will be CCed after taking 8-10k damage. combine that with purifying light and you got a deadly combo. Not many people understand you can CC a target with total dark on them.

Checkmath

What if the enemy is faster with breaking eclypse? I know that since the animation of eclypse is late, you always get one tick. But most of the good players break it immediately.

Thogard

Checkmath wrote: »

What if the enemy is faster with breaking eclypse? I know that since the animation of eclypse is late, you always get one tick. But most of the good players break it immediately.

Eclipse isn't a hard CC to break because the animation is late.... it's because Eclipse can only be broken on the global cooldown. Most hard CCs reset your GCD counter, but eclipse doesn't (because it doesn't interupt what you were doing). If you haven't used an action, you can break it immediately. If you have, you have to wait until your next time / GCD... but many people immediatley spam breakfree and then hit an ability button.

Checkmath

I know i know, i know the class very well . Still against a worthy opponent any real cc ability works better (exception is when fighting a permablocker).

LegendaryMage

Checkmath wrote: »

I know i know, i know the class very well . Still against a worthy opponent any real cc ability works better (exception is when fighting a permablocker).

Eclipse is good to force players to stop doing whatever they were doing. I can't tell you how many times I've killed stamina builds because they were one GCD late to break it, not to mention that the heals are sweet on an Argonian with boosted healing taken/done.

Animus-ESO

Eclipse is probably one of the best and most unique skills in a Templars kit. If used intelligently its devastating. But if you use it mindlessly it will get countered. The only thing I'd ever change on eclipse is make it cause damage on breaking. That way it is never a wasted cast.

Animus-ESO

Checkmath wrote: »

I know i know, i know the class very well . Still against a worthy opponent any real cc ability works better (exception is when fighting a permablocker).

You better not mess up my eclipse! I know your a class rep! Eclipse could use a slight buff but dont make if a mindless skill like they have been doing to all the other classes!

Checkmath

Gotcha, buff to eclypse! It now deals oblivion damage when the target breaks out.

VirtualElizabeth

I need to revamp my Magplar. I have been running Overwhelming/Shacklebreaker for some time now and it still seems to work. Any other thoughts?

brandonv516

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Total dark is great when playing against people who don't know to break it. Just slap it on everybody and let them hit themselves in the face until they die.

Not many people understand you can CC a target with total dark on them.

This is why you can double cast Total Dark on an enemy. Let them get 2 ticks of it and then refresh it (unless they break free).

Animus-ESO

Checkmath wrote: »

Gotcha, buff to eclypse! It now deals oblivion damage when the target breaks out.

Oooo... Thats dirty. I like it

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Checkmath wrote: »

What if the enemy is faster with breaking eclypse? I know that since the animation of eclypse is late, you always get one tick. But most of the good players break it immediately.

It still does the same thing any CC does, which is force an enemy to spend one GCD and a pile of stamina to use break free. Plus you always get that first tick of damage and healing, sometimes more.

The only disadvantage eclipse has is when you're trying to finish off a low health opponent with no stam, they can still just blockheal instead of laying prone on the ground.

Brutusmax1mus

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

What if the enemy is faster with breaking eclypse? I know that since the animation of eclypse is late, you always get one tick. But most of the good players break it immediately.

It still does the same thing any CC does, which is force an enemy to spend one GCD and a pile of stamina to use break free. Plus you always get that first tick of damage and healing, sometimes more.

The only disadvantage eclipse has is when you're trying to finish off a low health opponent with no stam, they can still just blockheal instead of laying prone on the ground.

Block heal with no stam? Ok.

A lot of times, the stun preventing movement leads to a kill vs opponents that are retreating. Eclipse doesn't have that.

An enemy can literally just go defensive for 6 seconds and not have lost a damn thing. It's a skill that's amazing vs baddies tho

Animus-ESO

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

What if the enemy is faster with breaking eclypse? I know that since the animation of eclypse is late, you always get one tick. But most of the good players break it immediately.

It still does the same thing any CC does, which is force an enemy to spend one GCD and a pile of stamina to use break free. Plus you always get that first tick of damage and healing, sometimes more.

The only disadvantage eclipse has is when you're trying to finish off a low health opponent with no stam, they can still just blockheal instead of laying prone on the ground.

Block heal with no stam? Ok.

A lot of times, the stun preventing movement leads to a kill vs opponents that are retreating. Eclipse doesn't have that.

An enemy can literally just go defensive for 6 seconds and not have lost a damn thing. It's a skill that's amazing vs baddies tho

What you dont realize is that they dont get CC immunity until eclipse is gone. I use two forms if CC on my bar. If they dont attack me with eclipse on , and they dont have the stanina to break it. I stun them and finish them off. The skill is useful but not for brainless *** who want easy mode skills like rune cage and fossilize

Animus-ESO

VirtualElizabeth wrote: »

I need to revamp my Magplar. I have been running Overwhelming/Shacklebreaker for some time now and it still seems to work. Any other thoughts?

fossilized pair rattlecage with overwhelming. I really enjoy being able to use tri pots and the extra bar space.

maxjapank

@jasonthorpeb14_ESO Nice to see someone else giving Total Dark some love. I have often defended the skill, but players like to come in here and say it is only good against baddies. So not true. But I agree with you about "making it cause damage on breaking." That's really the only thing it needs.

Brutusmax1mus

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

What if the enemy is faster with breaking eclypse? I know that since the animation of eclypse is late, you always get one tick. But most of the good players break it immediately.

It still does the same thing any CC does, which is force an enemy to spend one GCD and a pile of stamina to use break free. Plus you always get that first tick of damage and healing, sometimes more.

The only disadvantage eclipse has is when you're trying to finish off a low health opponent with no stam, they can still just blockheal instead of laying prone on the ground.

Block heal with no stam? Ok.

A lot of times, the stun preventing movement leads to a kill vs opponents that are retreating. Eclipse doesn't have that.

An enemy can literally just go defensive for 6 seconds and not have lost a damn thing. It's a skill that's amazing vs baddies tho

What you dont realize is that they dont get CC immunity until eclipse is gone. I use two forms if CC on my bar. If they dont attack me with eclipse on , and they dont have the stanina to break it. I stun them and finish them off. The skill is useful but not for brainless *** who want easy mode skills like rune cage and fossilize

I do realize this. Sure it's useful, but there's far more useful skills imo. You don't even need stam to get this off, that's how bad of a cc it is.

Btw, you do realize that ifyou cast this on someone, and they don't remove it but don't attack and go defensive and just buff or heal, and then you stun with an actual cc, all you did was waste a gcd. That's how bad it is.

Meanwhile, we you could use reach, and do decent dmg, add a dot, and stun all in one gcd.

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

What if the enemy is faster with breaking eclypse? I know that since the animation of eclypse is late, you always get one tick. But most of the good players break it immediately.

It still does the same thing any CC does, which is force an enemy to spend one GCD and a pile of stamina to use break free. Plus you always get that first tick of damage and healing, sometimes more.

The only disadvantage eclipse has is when you're trying to finish off a low health opponent with no stam, they can still just blockheal instead of laying prone on the ground.

Block heal with no stam? Ok.

A lot of times, the stun preventing movement leads to a kill vs opponents that are retreating. Eclipse doesn't have that.

An enemy can literally just go defensive for 6 seconds and not have lost a damn thing. It's a skill that's amazing vs baddies tho

What you dont realize is that they dont get CC immunity until eclipse is gone. I use two forms if CC on my bar. If they dont attack me with eclipse on , and they dont have the stanina to break it. I stun them and finish them off. The skill is useful but not for brainless *** who want easy mode skills like rune cage and fossilize

I do realize this. Sure it's useful, but there's far more useful skills imo. You don't even need stam to get this off, that's how bad of a cc it is.

Btw, you do realize that ifyou cast this on someone, and they don't remove it but don't attack and go defensive and just buff or heal, and then you stun with an actual cc, all you did was waste a gcd. That's how bad it is.

Meanwhile, we you could use reach, and do decent dmg, add a dot, and stun all in one gcd.

You're imagining TD being used in a scenario where the Templar is being a moron and the person he's attacking is responding with perfect reaction time.

You only use the spell on someone who is already attacking so the first proc is guaranteed and multiple procs are likely even if the enemy is a skilled pvp who's familiar with the skill, and then they spend a GCD breaking free.
There are scenarios where a more traditional stun will be better, there's a give-and-take, but it's still a great skill.

Soris

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

What if the enemy is faster with breaking eclypse? I know that since the animation of eclypse is late, you always get one tick. But most of the good players break it immediately.

It still does the same thing any CC does, which is force an enemy to spend one GCD and a pile of stamina to use break free. Plus you always get that first tick of damage and healing, sometimes more.

The only disadvantage eclipse has is when you're trying to finish off a low health opponent with no stam, they can still just blockheal instead of laying prone on the ground.

Block heal with no stam? Ok.

A lot of times, the stun preventing movement leads to a kill vs opponents that are retreating. Eclipse doesn't have that.

An enemy can literally just go defensive for 6 seconds and not have lost a damn thing. It's a skill that's amazing vs baddies tho

Like most other templar skills.. Jabs can easily hit baddies 4 times, blazing shield melt them, eclipse is the same too. Even rememberance is godly vs baddies. It makes you unkillable in 1vX where as it is useless and puts you in a worse position than ever against a couple of good players. I dont know any other class that has this much difference gap gameplay-wise vs baddies and good players.