First Day BGs - Console Post Summerset

brandonv516

Deathmatch
Deathmatch
Deathmatch
Deathmatch
Deathmatch
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Leaderboards # 100 spots:

Deathmatch
20k score

Land Grab
6k score

Flag Games
5k score

Going to be a pain in the ass getting on the other leaderboards.

Apache_Kid

I know everyone was excited about the option to queue for different modes but I was not...

I like variety in my matches and I also want to be put into matches as quickly as possible. Waiting in lines/queues is the bane of my existence. Every filter they add in to make "matchmaking" better makes our waits longer.

BGs in Dragon Bones was some of the most fun I've ever had in pvp in this game. Take us backkkkk

Nevasca

Yeah I noticed that on PC/NA as well. Deathmatch is fun but when you get matches vs premades as a solo player it is much worse to deal with it compared to the other modes.

Apache_Kid

Littlebluelizard wrote: »

Yeah I noticed that on PC/NA as well. Deathmatch is fun but when you get matches vs premades as a solo player it is much worse to deal with it compared to the other modes.

This too. I've won plenty of objective game-mode matches against pre-mades as a solo-queue player because if you get tunnel-vision for the objectives and avoid the larger fights and only play to win you can out-score them. Deathmatch is the one mode where you really can't overcome the large skill gap that exists in ESO PvP.

CatchMeTrolling

Yes it’s basically deathmatch and an increase in sorcs, if this is the direction they need to do something about sorc executes.

Thogard

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Yes it’s basically deathmatch and an increase in sorcs, if this is the direction they need to do something about sorc executes.

Jesus christ, console catches on quickly.

All the High MMR matches on PC NA are just trios and 4 mans with sorc pugs and magblade pugs running sloads.

I've been saying for a long time that the sorc execute needs its range shorted, but the sorc board warriors show up in force whenever i bring it up. they're far more organized and defensive than the nightblade squad, which just whines and embarasses themselves whenever they try to defend something.

CatchMeTrolling

Thogard wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Yes it’s basically deathmatch and an increase in sorcs, if this is the direction they need to do something about sorc executes.

Jesus christ, console catches on quickly.

All the High MMR matches on PC NA are just trios and 4 mans with sorc pugs and magblade pugs running sloads.

I've been saying for a long time that the sorc execute needs its range shorted, but the sorc board warriors show up in force whenever i bring it up. they're far more organized and defensive than the nightblade squad, which just whines and embarasses themselves whenever they try to defend something.

At first it was fine because it was more than deathmatch , now it’s nothing but deathmatch. You get into a match and it’s 4 sorcs in the match spamming execute , barely dpsing.

brandonv516

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Yes it’s basically deathmatch and an increase in sorcs, if this is the direction they need to do something about sorc executes.

Jesus christ, console catches on quickly.

All the High MMR matches on PC NA are just trios and 4 mans with sorc pugs and magblade pugs running sloads.

I've been saying for a long time that the sorc execute needs its range shorted, but the sorc board warriors show up in force whenever i bring it up. they're far more organized and defensive than the nightblade squad, which just whines and embarasses themselves whenever they try to defend something.

At first it was fine because it was more than deathmatch , now it’s nothing but deathmatch. You get into a match and it’s 4 sorcs in the match spamming execute , barely dpsing.

Don't forget overload....been seeing many more sorcerers sitting back and reaping the kills with this lol.

Feanor

Thogard wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Yes it’s basically deathmatch and an increase in sorcs, if this is the direction they need to do something about sorc executes.

Jesus christ, console catches on quickly.

All the High MMR matches on PC NA are just trios and 4 mans with sorc pugs and magblade pugs running sloads.

I've been saying for a long time that the sorc execute needs its range shorted, but the sorc board warriors show up in force whenever i bring it up. they're far more organized and defensive than the nightblade squad, which just whines and embarasses themselves whenever they try to defend something.

You’d have to do the same for every execute then. Basically every class execute has a range of 28m. I think Fury/Wrath is entirely psychological. You know you can’t drop below 25% in that 4 second window, so you’re pushed into the defensive. Changing the range won’t alleviate that, unless you do something absurd like 8 meters.

If you’re close to execute range RD or Impale aren’t less lethal.

Vaoh

Keep in mind that Summerset launch means lots of new zone content, a new mini-trial, jewelcrafting, and apparently a very abusable AP farm now in Cyrodiil.

It’ll take some time before people go back to BGs.

BNOC

On Xbox EU, for me, it's been much better than it previously has.

I've been getting Deathmatches more frequently at about a 2:1 ratio - 2 DM's for every 1 other game.

Perfect.

I've also been playing as a premade in nearly every game and have never came up against a sloads team, a team of sorcs, or anything like that. Except one team of blue healbot Templars, but they got smacked because they had no deeps.

I'm enjoying it.

LokoMatic

Ruined. I don’t care about fighting premades, I care about playing more than 1 match per hour. The mmr system broke the que and now I can’t even get into a game.

Vaoh

LokoMatic wrote: »

Ruined. I don’t care about fighting premades, I care about playing more than 1 match per hour. The mmr system broke the que and now I can’t even get into a game.

Dang I’m not going to be back to ESO for another three weeks (I already missed the week leading up to Summerset as well as Summerset launch) but I really hope this isn’t the case.

BGs was a lot of fun in Dragon Bones. I’ve heard this same sort of feedback from PC players though when Summerset launched for them. Definitely unfortunate to hear these MMRs will plague console as well.

Merlin13KAGL

Kill credit should go to whoever dealt highest damage, not who got the lucky/well timed proc.

Then Fury would still have its execute benefits without automagically getting kill credit.

CatchMeTrolling

Feanor wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Yes it’s basically deathmatch and an increase in sorcs, if this is the direction they need to do something about sorc executes.

Jesus christ, console catches on quickly.

All the High MMR matches on PC NA are just trios and 4 mans with sorc pugs and magblade pugs running sloads.

I've been saying for a long time that the sorc execute needs its range shorted, but the sorc board warriors show up in force whenever i bring it up. they're far more organized and defensive than the nightblade squad, which just whines and embarasses themselves whenever they try to defend something.

You’d have to do the same for every execute then. Basically every class execute has a range of 28m. I think Fury/Wrath is entirely psychological. You know you can’t drop below 25% in that 4 second window, so you’re pushed into the defensive. Changing the range won’t alleviate that, unless you do something absurd like 8 meters.

If you’re close to execute range RD or Impale aren’t less lethal.

Those executes aren’t comparable, for one Jesus beam hits like a wet noodle. To the point it’s not even worth slotting. Those are less lethal, don’t remember the last time I even seen impale, will is more like the execute.

Lexxypwns

Guess I’m gonna be in Cyrodiil a lot more.

Thogard

Feanor wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Yes it’s basically deathmatch and an increase in sorcs, if this is the direction they need to do something about sorc executes.

Jesus christ, console catches on quickly.

All the High MMR matches on PC NA are just trios and 4 mans with sorc pugs and magblade pugs running sloads.

I've been saying for a long time that the sorc execute needs its range shorted, but the sorc board warriors show up in force whenever i bring it up. they're far more organized and defensive than the nightblade squad, which just whines and embarasses themselves whenever they try to defend something.

You’d have to do the same for every execute then. Basically every class execute has a range of 28m. I think Fury/Wrath is entirely psychological. You know you can’t drop below 25% in that 4 second window, so you’re pushed into the defensive. Changing the range won’t alleviate that, unless you do something absurd like 8 meters.

If you’re close to execute range RD or Impale aren’t less lethal.

Maybe the nightblade one? The others don’t really compare... and by the others I mean the Templar one since DK and warden don’t have one.

Sorc is a 4s debuff though so I wouldn’t even consider it the same as the NB one.

Merlin13KAGL

Thogard wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Yes it’s basically deathmatch and an increase in sorcs, if this is the direction they need to do something about sorc executes.

Jesus christ, console catches on quickly.

All the High MMR matches on PC NA are just trios and 4 mans with sorc pugs and magblade pugs running sloads.

I've been saying for a long time that the sorc execute needs its range shorted, but the sorc board warriors show up in force whenever i bring it up. they're far more organized and defensive than the nightblade squad, which just whines and embarasses themselves whenever they try to defend something.

You’d have to do the same for every execute then. Basically every class execute has a range of 28m. I think Fury/Wrath is entirely psychological. You know you can’t drop below 25% in that 4 second window, so you’re pushed into the defensive. Changing the range won’t alleviate that, unless you do something absurd like 8 meters.

If you’re close to execute range RD or Impale aren’t less lethal.

Maybe the nightblade one? The others don’t really compare... and by the others I mean the Templar one since DK and warden don’t have one.

Sorc is a 4s debuff though so I wouldn’t even consider it the same as the NB one.

It's also a 5%-10% grace period compared to other executes, too, so I'd say it evens out.

Fury's bonus damage doesn't kick in until 20%. Implosion doesn't kick in until 15%.

People tend to neglect to mention that part.

Vapirko

It’ll level out. Was this way on PC for a week and now if you go random you get a good mix.

Kartalin

I queued for a random on my magdk, first BG after update, and got teamed up with @Thogard and @Rin_Senya . I’m sure our opponents thought we were a premade.

Thogard

Vapirko wrote: »

It’ll level out. Was this way on PC for a week and now if you go random you get a good mix.

This is not correct Vapirko. The high MMR players have all stopped playing their mains and the groupsnhave all stopped queueing, so the mid level queues are popping faster now but the high and ultra high matches take even longer than before.

ShadowMonarch

Gool'ol mages fury. Throw it on people and wait for them to get low so it can blow the bottom 25% of their bar away without even needing to still be looking at them!!!

BigBadVolk

Rune cage meteor fury

HeathenDeacon

started Qing again yesterday for first time since console patch. Same short times for me solo as pre patch.
and as far as premades it seemed pretty much the same as pre patch.
SO yeah... not much change for me personally.

Sevn

Nerfsorcs.

brandonv516

After awhile now of playing I'm seeing some of the other game modes pop up. Still mostly DM.

What we really need is to get the crashes and invisible enemies fixed.