Should I stay as Warden?

Lodreus0Redguard19

Since the release of Summerset, I've decided to try out a new class the Warden as I got a bit bored with my stambuild nightblade lvl 100+ something. The only reason I chose Warden is that I wanted to try out the healing and ice spells, oh and they have nice visuals. I'm a sucker for those type of things. But sadly the Animal Companions skills don't interest me or just the sound of it doesn't make me want to play that skill tree or fact that the animal spells aren't that cool? I was hoping to summon those beasts you see out in the wild, not a bear or flying squid.

So, is it ok to play as Warden but only using two of its skill trees with a mix of something else or is it best to try and/or use all 3 skill trees that the class has to offer? Oh, and I have done some searching and I've notice that Templar has popped up quite a few times when comparing the two. I wouldn't mind making a new character but it's doing the Summerset story again is a bit of a pain xD.

My plans are only PVE and I have no interest in PVP while I might drop in and mess around, and I'm not too fussed if I can't kill a guy in a 1v1 fight. Also, I haven't touched trials. I'm simply been doing quests and bit of dungeon as I'm still quite a low level as my Warden is a lvl 21.




Thanks in advance!

ADarklore

You won't be happy with a Magden since the majority of their damage comes from the animal tree and the Ice tree tends to be geared towards tanking. You'll get a variety of players making suggestions, it's tough to tell what you will or won't like. Personally, I love Sorcerer... either Magsorc or Stamsorc... although right now I'm playing my Stamblade. I also have a Magplar that I return to sometimes as well. I like Magicka Templar but I tend to get bored with it quickly, but the Sorcs tend to keep my interest a bit longer having a 'pet' to draw aggro while I stand back and kill from afar.

Yzalirk

Personally, I think you should. My Warden is currently only Level 24 and I have been steamrolling through delves on my skyshard hunt. Granted, I am using a bit of everything the Warden has to offer as leveling those skills are a priority. Later you can respec your skills for a Tank which really does not utilize the Animal Companion skill set.

I have a character for each class and Warden, surprisingly, is one of my favorites competing with the Nightblade. I find the other classes a bit more boring to level up.

LeagueTroll

Nb = best class atm. Warden = worst class atm

Inarre

Warden makes a good tank or healer if you are interested in that and both of those would not need many animal skills. Warden dps I think does require a lot of them.

My current warden tank build has really limited animal companion skill line, however I think you will definitely need at least one or two of the skills from that line. The passive in the animal companion skill line gives you 12% regen if you have an animal skill slotted.

So for instance on my tank I use the squid on one bar and bird of prey (the bad ass looking wings that give you speed and other buffs) on the other.

The rest I use exclusively awesome looking ice and healing skills.

That said if you're into dps or just want to try something new Templar is also really fun (my main if you can see my icon!)

Uviryth

Since it doesnt sound like you love Warden, you shouldnt stay with it. The class performs very poorly at the moment. The only reason some people (like me) play it as a Main is for the aesthetics and the general theme (plus the underdog-factor )

Glenmorils

Warden makes a great tank or a healer. Not so much DPS, especially magicka dps.

Kova

Do you log in to see numbers on a screen at their most efficient points? If so, then don't play your warden.

Is winning and being better because of a class the most important to you? If so, you guessed it, don't play your warden.

Games are meant to be fun. If you're not having fun with something, don't do it. Doing it probably won't lead you to more fun.

Look at your alpha trial groups and pvpers. They're miserable most of the time, but their enjoyment comes from being good, not having fun.

So that's what you have to ask yourself in this case and in a broader sense, life. Do you want to be happy or do you want to be great? The two seldom cross.

illusiouk

It looks like you have already made your decision and you just need that push to another class.

Whatever you decide make the choice on your own experience and not another players.

Also its ok to use other skill trees

VexingArcanist

LeagueTroll wrote: »

Nb = best class atm. Warden = worst class atm

Someone doesn't PvP atm.

josiahva

I have a Warden...I do NOT enjoy playing it and doubt I ever will...every single skill seems to be on a delayed reaction, since they decided they wanted to make pretty animations. chances are I wont play it again ever unless they rework the 90% of the skills

dovakiin5574

If its fun, do it. If its not, drop it.

stewhead2ub17_ESO

I currently am playing three different Wardens, each uses only one class skill tree exclusively along with weapons and other skills. So I have a frost warden, green balance, and animal companion type. I only PvE and I enjoy playing all three with no problems.

Avalon

I have been trying to level a Warden... I have a 50 of every class, with builds I absolutely love. Warden? I have 4 of them, severely different build ideas and styles, and, nope! I keep trying, and I get so tired of playing one after about 10 minutes. The class is built so completely different from every other class, it's like they had ideas for 3 different classes and couldn't flesh any of them out, so they mushed it all together and said screw it.

_Ahala_

I absolutely love my magden and still enjoy playing it 2000 hrs later... am I insane... yes

Lodreus0Redguard19

Thanks for the replies.


I think from the looks of it, It'll be best if I start again but as Templar. I believe it wouldn't be fair and effective if I don't make use of all 3 skill trees and try actually make it a part of my character. Shame cuz the healing visually look really good and some of the animal skills are ok but nothing I would use as some of them don't interest me.

The next time startup ESO I'll start a new character. Good thing Summerset story isn't too long.

seipher09

I liked the play style but the class itself just is not good. Sure I can solo things pretty well, but takes me twice as long when I can do it easier and faster with other classes.

The warden I think was just made for role-playing purposes it feels like.

Anhedonie

This is a game. Play whatever you enjoy. Marden needs a rework and it might get one. Right now he should be enough for normal dungeons and quests. Just don't use ice staff.

Lodreus0Redguard19

I've been playing Templar for 2 hours, and so far I'm enjoying the class. Seems to be an all-rounder class which I quite like.

ADarklore

Lodreus0Redguard19 wrote: »

I've been playing Templar for 2 hours, and so far I'm enjoying the class. Seems to be an all-rounder class which I quite like.

One of the things I love about Templar is that, as you said, all-rounder class. You can play melee, you can play range, you can heal, it does a lot of things and does them pretty well. Which, speaking of Templar, I've dusted off my Magplar and going back to playing him once again.

degarmo_ESO

LeagueTroll wrote: »

Nb = best class atm. Warden = worst class atm

Quoted for truth.

I took my warden to get some cash and he broke three fingers and fell down during the process. He just can't operate the things.

Uviryth

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

I currently am playing three different Wardens, each uses only one class skill tree exclusively along with weapons and other skills. So I have a frost warden, green balance, and animal companion type. I only PvE and I enjoy playing all three with no problems.

I admire people with the capability of playing mmorpgs like Singleplayergames.
Unfortunately I lost that ability 20 years ago

Jameliel

Kova wrote: »

Do you log in to see numbers on a screen at their most efficient points? If so, then don't play your warden.

Is winning and being better because of a class the most important to you? If so, you guessed it, don't play your warden.

Games are meant to be fun. If you're not having fun with something, don't do it. Doing it probably won't lead you to more fun.

Look at your alpha trial groups and pvpers. They're miserable most of the time, but their enjoyment comes from being good, not having fun.

So that's what you have to ask yourself in this case and in a broader sense, life. Do you want to be happy or do you want to be great? The two seldom cross.

Lol the last part about most "alpha" players is funny. Most of them get angry and annoyed very easily. They only have fun if everything goes to perfection the way they expect it to. If not they get stressed out and emotional. When I play with people like them, I can't stop smiling with wonder at how they are so emotionally involved with data pixels on a screen.

Heka Cain

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stewhead2ub17_ESO

Uviryth wrote: »

stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »

I currently am playing three different Wardens, each uses only one class skill tree exclusively along with weapons and other skills. So I have a frost warden, green balance, and animal companion type. I only PvE and I enjoy playing all three with no problems.

I admire people with the capability of playing mmorpgs like Singleplayergames.
Unfortunately I lost that ability 20 years ago

@Uviryth : I'm not sure if you're taking a shot at me, but I'm also not sure how this is playing a mmorpg like "singleplayergames"? I have all my character slots utilized (admitted altoholic) and each character is a different type and build.

DanteYoda

Wardens are my highest characters

Ones a frost tank build the other is a dual wielder and healer.

teladoy

Just as healer and Tank. But as said, best healers are Templars and Tank can DK do it very well .
Winter embrace is an utility tree, forget to try to do dps or something relevant in pve.

Inarre

teladoy wrote: »

Just as healer and Tank. But as said, best healers are Templars and Tank can DK do it very well .
Winter embrace is an utility tree, forget to try to do dps or something relevant in pve.

Honestly I think wardens are great tanks too.

Lord_Ninka

The important questions here are:

1) Do you enjoy playing warden? If yes, then hold on to your warden, if no then stop playing your warden.

2) Do you want to try something else? If yes, then go try something else, your warden will still be there when/if you want to play warden again. If no, then don't.

Play to have fun and don't worry about what's "clever" - unless you think that's fun, of course.

aetherial_heavenn

You can do most things on a warden and they are flexible and fun to level. Guildie can pull trial vet level dps on his and just got flawless vMA. I am starting to heal vet trials on mine. But it takes a lot more work and some serious build testing to get there.

My mag templar heals PvE more easiIy. I don't think i will be able to pvp heal in Cyro as effectively on the magden as on the templar but I do fine in battlegrounds. I think most vet trials are going to be too hard for me but I am not an experienced vet trials healer on the templar either. The warden feels more fun in the new trials though. It is more mobile and I like the buffing debuffing heal style on the warden a lot.

Nightblades and sorcs do easier higher dps as a rule. DKs have better toolkit for tanking. But i have been in a warden tank dps and healer group in vDSA. So if you love the class or you love a challenge .....preferably both... you can do most stuff you want to. Except hit top dps numbers. You want a nb for that.

BTW: Stam wardens are great in pvp.

Masel

LeagueTroll wrote: »

Nb = best class atm. Warden = worst class atm

Nope. Magicka warden can dish out nice damage, Magicka templars are actually a bit below them.. All depends on the build, be careful with generalised statements like that.