I can’t 1v6 a group of Sloads wearers....

bg22

This is ridiculous. If 6 ppl wearing Sloads attack me at once, there’s literally nothing I can do about it because of the Sloads proc.

It killded me.

SixVoltCar

That is outrageous did you try unplugging and plugging it back in?!

Teridaxus

SixVoltCar wrote: »

That is outrageous did you try unplugging and plugging it back in?!

Divine prosecution i found the sload user criminal.

smtdbplus

bg22 wrote: »

This is ridiculous. If 6 ppl wearing Sloads attack me at once, there’s literally nothing I can do about it because of the Sloads proc.

It killded me.

I like this guy's attitude.

MajBludd

Only 6?

Phiathornsyldol

You think it's a joke, but usually I play solo in Cyrodiil , so I often encounter 5+ people. Can I kill them all ? No, that happened only a few times vs potatoes . Can I escape ? Yes , that's what happens most of the time , because I mainly play as mag sorc (streak away) or stam NB (cloak+shade) . So actually I can do something vs 6 people (escape), but Sload significantly decreases my chance to survive.

Vaoh

Danko35 wrote: »

You think it's a joke, but usually I play solo in Cyrodiil , so I often encounter 5+ people. Can I kill them all ? No, that happened only a few times vs potatoes . Can I escape ? Yes , that's what happens most of the time , because I mainly play as mag sorc (streak away) or stam NB (cloak+shade) . So actually I can do something vs 6 people (escape), but Sload significantly decreases my chance to survive.

Yep that’s pretty much how it goes. If you have a build specifically made for 1vX and you go up against a bunch of bad players, there’s a decent chance of you succeeding if you are careful. At least... you were before....

What happens when all of them have 30K+ health and play tanky builds, but also slot Skoria and Sloads? Not only will you be unable to kill them, but they can cast a DoT on you and then do whatever - the procs will melt you away.

It’s whatever though. Solo play hasn’t been viable in Cyrodiil for a long time. It’s not a supported playstyle. Sloads didn’t kill solo play - it just made it much less viable, especially if you are a Mag NB or Mag Sorc. Some medium armor Stam build suffer just as badly from Sloads too.

I always found it funny that ZOS wants players to spread out and not zerg so hard, yet they introduce sets like this which are specifically designed to target and kill solo/small scale players.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

puts my crafter to work making Sloads while it's still useful, before the incoming nerf.

Vaoh

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

puts my crafter to work making Sloads while it's still useful, before the incoming nerf.

Idk if it will get nerfed tbh. And if it does they might just do a small nerf to the tooltip, which will still have the same effect when stacked vs individual players.

Malamar1229

They could change it to add a new minor/major debuff instead that does oblivion dmg (minor oblivion/major oblivion). That way a person wouldn't have multiple dots.

pmn100b16_ESO

Vaoh wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

puts my crafter to work making Sloads while it's still useful, before the incoming nerf.

Idk if it will get nerfed tbh. And if it does they might just do a small nerf to the tooltip, which will still have the same effect when stacked vs individual players.

It will get nerfed... when the next dlc drops and the next OP set is introduced. Rinse, repeat. Got to sell that DLC.

Vaoh

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

puts my crafter to work making Sloads while it's still useful, before the incoming nerf.

Idk if it will get nerfed tbh. And if it does they might just do a small nerf to the tooltip, which will still have the same effect when stacked vs individual players.

It will get nerfed... when the next dlc drops and the next OP set is introduced. Rinse, repeat. Got to sell that DLC.

I see what you mean but that’s not happening here. Sloads is located in Summerset, however
1. Someone can craft it for you
2. Someone can place the attuned craft station in their home for you to craft your own stuff

TequilaFire

I am disappointed, I have yet to see Sload's on my death recap on my PC NA account.
It will come I am sure.

Didaco

LOOOOL

U cant face 6 ppl w/ sloads?

Totally a l2p issue

Vaoh

TequilaFire wrote: »

I am disappointed, I have yet to see Sload's on my death recap on my PC NA account.
It will come I am sure.

Don’t you run in a group? I understand you’re a PS4 NA player as well and only recall ever seeing you in a group. I don’t mean this is any negative way either.

However, Sloads is an “Xv1” set, meaning it specializes in killing solo players based on its very functionality, while being meh in 1vX. So if you haven’t seen it on your death recap it would make sense based on what I know about you that you’re always in a group.

Kikke

I think it is amazing how ESO players realisticly think that they can go up against x6 and get away alive.

Yes, you could do it before; Not anymore... They dont want demi-gods running around in cyro facetanking 10 people each..
So sets like sload is nice; time too say NO to demi-gods destroying our newer players!

Solariken

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

puts my crafter to work making Sloads while it's still useful, before the incoming nerf.

Idk if it will get nerfed tbh. And if it does they might just do a small nerf to the tooltip, which will still have the same effect when stacked vs individual players.

It will get nerfed... when the next dlc drops and the next OP set is introduced. Rinse, repeat. Got to sell that DLC.

Except you don't even have to buy Summerset to get this set... ZOS basically gave this set to everyone for free through crafting. There must be some deeper motive...

Samadhi

Vaoh wrote: »

...
However, Sloads is an “Xv1” set, meaning it specializes in killing solo players based on its very functionality, while being meh in 1vX. ...

Here is a question,
Multiple players can have the Sloads DoT active on a single target
but is it even possible for a single player to have the Sloads DoT on multiple targets?

Basically a question of is this explicitly a Xv1 set; or is the functionality at least programed with group vs group play in mind

DanteYoda

Your mistake op was entering a PvP area, they should post warning signs on those things..

VexingArcanist

TequilaFire wrote: »

I am disappointed, I have yet to see Sload's on my death recap on my PC NA account.
It will come I am sure.

Enter a BG. Get back to me.

Vaoh

kikkehs wrote: »

I think it is amazing how ESO players realisticly think that they can go up against x6 and get away alive.

Yes, you could do it before; Not anymore... They dont want demi-gods running around in cyro facetanking 10 people each..
So sets like sload is nice; time too say NO to demi-gods destroying our newer players!

“demi-gods” aka good players

Good players who had fair fights when against players of the same skill level. And when those good players went up against even 2 other good players they get destroyed. That sounds great to me.

What doesn’t sound normal is if I am a new player and join the game a week ago and then hop into Cyrodiil barely knowing what a dodge roll is. However I am able to stack health/survivability sets and Sloads to create a build that actually hurts those good players and applies pressure, all while having enough survivability to avoid getting bursted and can heal up plenty. That’s sounds really bad to me.
If I was a new player who understood very little about the game, or simply a player who is extremely unskilled, and could legitimately hurt the very best players because of a sets that do the work for me while I remain a tank..... well that tells me there are fundamental issues here in the gameplay itself.

That’s my opinion on it at least And back in those times when skilled play was rewarded and you could viably play solo in Cyrodiil, there were significantly more players.

Vaoh

Samadhi wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

...
However, Sloads is an “Xv1” set, meaning it specializes in killing solo players based on its very functionality, while being meh in 1vX. ...

Here is a question,
Multiple players can have the Sloads DoT active on a single target
but is it even possible for a single player to have the Sloads DoT on multiple targets?

Basically a question of is this explicitly a Xv1 set; or is the functionality at least programed with group vs group play in mind

There is a single DoT. Once it is applied, there is cooldown. Therefore it is extremely powerful vs a single target, but useless for that single target vs a group of enemies. Also with the way this specific set works it reallyyyyu hurts solo players when the procs stack. Major Defile makes Oblivion Damage far more dangerous since you struggle to outheal it. A group player will get plenty of heals anyway.

Nemeliom

bg22 wrote: »

This is ridiculous. If 6 ppl wearing Sloads attack me at once, there’s literally nothing I can do about it because of the Sloads proc.

It killded me.

Oh no!! I can't survive 6. THAT is unbalanced?

EvilCroc

Nobody should be able 1v6, no matter what skill he has.
Sload or not, but it sounds like a healthy situation.

Neoauspex

When faced with multiple attackers, try using Sloads to even the odds.

Samadhi

Vaoh wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

...
However, Sloads is an “Xv1” set, meaning it specializes in killing solo players based on its very functionality, while being meh in 1vX. ...

Here is a question,
Multiple players can have the Sloads DoT active on a single target
but is it even possible for a single player to have the Sloads DoT on multiple targets?

Basically a question of is this explicitly a Xv1 set; or is the functionality at least programed with group vs group play in mind

There is a single DoT. Once it is applied, there is cooldown. Therefore it is extremely powerful vs a single target, but useless for that single target vs a group of enemies. Also with the way this specific set works it reallyyyyu hurts solo players when the procs stack. Major Defile makes Oblivion Damage far more dangerous since you struggle to outheal it. A group player will get plenty of heals anyway.

If it could apply to multiple targets at the same time, it would make more sense as being designed for a group vs group scenario
if the mechanics of the DoT are explicitly that multiple can stack on a single target, but a single playhe cannot impact multiple targets
then it sounds like it may well have been designed with the intention of wiping out 1vX/at least making it more difficult with no purge

from the way you describe it tho
it is relatively well-balanced/not particularly overpowered for everything else
only particularly powerful in an Xv1 scenario

Feanor

EvilCroc wrote: »

Nobody should be able 1v6, no matter what skill he has.
Sload or not, but it sounds like a healthy situation.

He absolutely should if the 6 are light attacking potatoes. The set is in the game to make Xv1 even easier and to give all the light attacking potatoes out there a chance to feel “powerful”.

That said, it’s just one of many unbalanced setups. Fun times indeed.

Vaoh

EvilCroc wrote: »

Nobody should be able 1v6, no matter what skill he has.
Sload or not, but it sounds like a healthy situation.

If you are a very skilled player and are fighting 6 players who pretty much stand still and do nothing, you honestly don’t think that the solo player should stand a chance?

Don’t worry, Wrobel agrees.

agegarton

I could be wearing the Infinity Gauntlet from Thanos himself - if I’m attacked by 6 other players i’m probably going to die.

(I put it down to not having teenage-level reactions - under no circumstances is it because i’m crap at PVP).

xeNNNNN

Feanor wrote: »

EvilCroc wrote: »

Nobody should be able 1v6, no matter what skill he has.
Sload or not, but it sounds like a healthy situation.

He absolutely should if the 6 are light attacking potatoes. The set is in the game to make Xv1 even easier and to give all the light attacking potatoes out there a chance to feel “powerful”.

That said, it’s just one of many unbalanced setups. Fun times indeed.

Basically this ^

A lot of people talk about skill and such and whether ESO has it or not. The ability to 1vX (I hate all youtube videos of it but whatever) is by definition the ability to out play your opponent with skill and knowledge of game mechanics but when one set can entirely derail how that plays out simply because it exists rather than being down to how good the player is then it ultimately means that skill has become irrelevant. Which frankly in a Player vs Player environment which should by default be competitive but isn't is just ridiculous.

Of course having fun too is just as important but a large majority of people have fun by being competitive. This set is probably the most counter-productive set to come out for PvP use in quite some time. Its right up there with the proc set discussion.

Vaoh

Samadhi wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

...
However, Sloads is an “Xv1” set, meaning it specializes in killing solo players based on its very functionality, while being meh in 1vX. ...

Here is a question,
Multiple players can have the Sloads DoT active on a single target
but is it even possible for a single player to have the Sloads DoT on multiple targets?

Basically a question of is this explicitly a Xv1 set; or is the functionality at least programed with group vs group play in mind

There is a single DoT. Once it is applied, there is cooldown. Therefore it is extremely powerful vs a single target, but useless for that single target vs a group of enemies. Also with the way this specific set works it reallyyyyu hurts solo players when the procs stack. Major Defile makes Oblivion Damage far more dangerous since you struggle to outheal it. A group player will get plenty of heals anyway.

If it could apply to multiple targets at the same time, it would make more sense as being designed for a group vs group scenario
if the mechanics of the DoT are explicitly that multiple can stack on a single target, but a single playhe cannot impact multiple targets
then it sounds like it may well have been designed with the intention of wiping out 1vX/at least making it more difficult with no purge

from the way you describe it tho
it is relatively well-balanced/not particularly overpowered for everything else
only particularly powerful in an Xv1 scenario

But another thing is that even in a 1v1 it is very strong.

Also I’d hate to see this become so strong literally everyone uses it and we all glow purple in PvP 24/7. I love how ZOS blames lag on armor procs but now wants us o stack as many as possible

This set truly should not exist imo. It’s horrible for the health of the game and truly impossible to balance.