When will pre mades be removed from solo que?

Troneon

This needs to happen so we need a group / ranked que.

So many times now pre mades get put against solo players and just abuse it, for example.

Just had a match where 400-450 points ahead pre made team, also using whisper to troll the other players in match, admitting what they are doing, then they release all flags and drag the timer out as long as possible, forcing everyone to stay in a pointless to play match, then when timer almost end they finish the last few points.

Then troll whisper some more....

I thought pre mades had less chance of going against solo players? Or is the system setup as such that if not enough other pre made team players they get to farm solo players instead? This happens over 70% of matches now...

Come on ZOS address this already.

AkromaAngelOfWrath

From what I've seen of battlegrounds since Summerset, the matchmaking system will attempt to find similar-level teams (and during busy times it worked well) but if there are too few players you could end up playing against anyone, including premades.

As for the trolling, if it's persistent enough, it could be reportable as harassment/griefing, and since people doing things like that seems to be the biggest obstacle for getting new players to try PvP, please do that - but as they aren't cheating (just being *holes) I'm not sure if ZOS will take action.

Anethum

AkromaAngelOfWrath wrote: »

From what I've seen of battlegrounds since Summerset, the matchmaking system will attempt to find similar-level teams (and during busy times it worked well) but if there are too few players you could end up playing against anyone, including premades.

As for the trolling, if it's persistent enough, it could be reportable as harassment/griefing, and since people doing things like that seems to be the biggest obstacle for getting new players to try PvP, please do that - but as they aren't cheating (just being *holes) I'm not sure if ZOS will take action.

matchmaking take players with ~similar rank (which is not transparent system...), but it almost doesn't match premade or not. Or idk how it works but I had in summerset only ~20% bgs with only randoms on 3 sides. its pretty disquisting thing in addition to sloadshit meta

Troneon

Anethum wrote: »

AkromaAngelOfWrath wrote: »

From what I've seen of battlegrounds since Summerset, the matchmaking system will attempt to find similar-level teams (and during busy times it worked well) but if there are too few players you could end up playing against anyone, including premades.

As for the trolling, if it's persistent enough, it could be reportable as harassment/griefing, and since people doing things like that seems to be the biggest obstacle for getting new players to try PvP, please do that - but as they aren't cheating (just being *holes) I'm not sure if ZOS will take action.

matchmaking take players with ~similar rank (which is not transparent system...), but it almost doesn't match premade or not. Or idk how it works but I had in summerset only ~20% bgs with only randoms on 3 sides. its pretty disquisting thing in addition to sloadshit meta

Yep nothing but pre mades with Zaan/Skoria and Sloads...with any other proc set ...

wheem_ESO

I had a Crazy King game a little bit ago (early prime time for PC NA), where it was a full 4 man premade with dedicated heals vs 2 different solo queued teams of 3 people each. And of course said premade was classy about it, tryhard chasing people down 4v1 and whatnot. I even managed to get distance from all but 1 of them, and blow most of my resources doing that + healing through their Sloads damage, but as soon as I open up on the remaining guy that chased me, he tucks tail and runs back to his group.

The group was so incredibly fun to fight against that 2 out of the 3 people on the other pug team quit (while mine started standing around in base), and caused the game to end prematurely. When these pug stomping premades start sucking the fun out of it so badly that people are willing to eat a 20 minute debuff and get 0 rewards, I don't mind if said teams get stuck in the queue for hours on end. If you're going to play in such a way that it ruins everyone else's fun, it doesn't bother me if you don't have any either.

Given how often I see premades while I'm solo queueing (and I mean the teams that are organized, not the casual getting-a-few-games-with-your-buddies ones), there's a lot of pug stomping going on, and it needs to stop. I saw a lot of people in game being really hopeful about the Summerset changes, while being pug stomped by premades; "At least this won't happen anymore in Summerset," they said. But, their hopes were dashed.

ZOS just needs to separate the queues entirely.

CO_Gibbs

They won’t. The system is hopelessly broken, ZOS needs to revert back to how it was so you don’t have to wait in a 40 minute Q just to face 2 premades. Or they need to rebuild the whole system and remove MMR. But doing either would require them to admit they had no idea what they were doing in the first place, so I wouldn’t hold your breath.

ATomiX96

i just think the playerbase is way too small for seperating queue, I played the same people 5 games back to back so I believe it prioritizes queue time & similar skill over solo vs premade seperation.

CO_Gibbs

ATomiX96 wrote: »

i just think the playerbase is way too small for seperating queue, I played the same people 5 games back to back so I believe it prioritizes queue time & similar skill over solo vs premade seperation.

Which is the direct opposite of how the new system was alleged to work.

Why would MMR be more important than group vs solo? 100% there are enough solo q'ers to support multiple games at a time on every server. Make groups only q against groups, and if they can't find a pop then they have to break group and solo. This new method is completely dicking over anyone who has played substantial amount of BGs and want's to solo Q.

Thogard

The solo players getting pug stomped are the highest MMR solo players in queue. If anyone should fight the premades, it’s the soloers with the most experience or best ranking. The problem is that the system keeps grabbing the same soloers for this over and over again because their MMR doesn’t seem to be going down... they get frustrated and they stop queueing.