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BG Rewards / Points suck for Healers/Tanks/Support go DD or go home..

Troneon
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I could tank 1 million damage, could heal 500k-1million in damage....could even throw in 200-500k damage...

And in one deathmatch I will get crap points, rewards and score last just because I did not do 800k+ damage....

It's such a silly system where damage/ burst is king and build variety is dead where you only reward the players who do high amounts of damage pushing everyone to go for high burst / gank builds only...

No wonder the meta is so broken.

I have builds to play all types but I like to buff / support team and be bait for enemy so they waste their time on me etc, deny enemy kills, debuffs etc...but even if I turn the tide of the fight or save my team from wipes 5 times over I still get crap points...

Am I forced to just go full damage like everyone else? :(
Edited by Troneon on June 1, 2018 11:41PM
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Just make a build that can do a bit of everything and you'll get more points than anyone.
  • Troneon
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    Just make a build that can do a bit of everything and you'll get more points than anyone.

    Nope its all damage or nothing.

    I tried a full tank, got no points, I tried a full healer, got no points, I tried a hybrid of all and got low points...

    Went full damage 700-800k....

    Most points on all three teams....

    System is a joke..
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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Of course Deathmatch is never going to be where a healer or tank shines. (DPS that aren't able to nab the kill won't either)

    Any of the other modes, however...
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Mihael
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    I think healers should get rewarded more and if you are a debuff tank you will probs get lots of points in assist but tanks who only hold block deserve an automatic 0 points
  • Diddly_D_Potatoes
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/413338/battleground-medals

    Know how you get medals.

    The only way you don't get a decent score on dom and crazy kings matches as a healer/tank is if you spend no time at the capture points. Despite the whining from healers about them using all their stamina running from point to point, the way the medals are allocated for these match types greatly favours them.

    Basically if you do stuff away from the capture points, your score is going to be crap, if you do stuff on them you score will be at least respectable.

    Healers/tanks have a bit of a sticky wicket in the other match types. Check how medals are awarded and adjust your game play a bit. Maybe throw some purifying lights about to get assists or something. I'm sure you can work out a way to boost your score if you know how you get medals.

    I probably sound like a broken record now but, know how you get medals.
  • wheem_ESO
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    Healers can potentially score pretty well in Domination, Crazy King, Chaos Ball, and Capture the Relic (if they actually run the relic, rather than support someone else), but you're probably going to be behind a bit in Death Match. It's not nearly as bad as it used to be, though, and if you can slot an execute, AOE, or Purifying Light, you'll get some extra medals from kills and assists.

    I made a forum post about the lack of healing medals quite a while back, using an anecdote about a premade team whose healer did just a little under 1 million healing, essentially winning the match for his team, but ending up like 9th out of 12 on personal score. Medals for pure healing are significantly better now, but you'll still wanna try to squeeze in a little damage for assists, or some killing blows here and there if you want better personal score.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Just make a build that can do a bit of everything and you'll get more points than anyone.

    Nope its all damage or nothing.

    I tried a full tank, got no points, I tried a full healer, got no points, I tried a hybrid of all and got low points...

    Went full damage 700-800k....

    Most points on all three teams....

    System is a joke..

    I've literally dominated every board at one point on my magplar, it's definitely doable. If you build to the point you can deal damage, off heal and mitigate damage you'll get the most points because you're essentially partaking in everything.

  • Kel
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Just make a build that can do a bit of everything and you'll get more points than anyone.

    Nope its all damage or nothing.

    I tried a full tank, got no points, I tried a full healer, got no points, I tried a hybrid of all and got low points...

    Went full damage 700-800k....

    Most points on all three teams....

    System is a joke..

    This is true.....for one match type. In the others, the point system greatly favors healers and tanks.
    If you're not scoring high in other match mode outside deathmatch, you're obviously not playing objectives, or your team isn't, and you're following them around in Crazy King healing them as they try to play deathmatch in a capture the flag secnerio.
  • raasdal
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    Troneon wrote: »
    I could tank 1 million damage, could heal 500k-1million in damage....could even throw in 200-500k damage...

    And in one deathmatch I will get crap points, rewards and score last just because I did not do 800k+ damage....

    It's such a silly system where damage/ burst is king and build variety is dead where you only reward the players who do high amounts of damage pushing everyone to go for high burst / gank builds only...

    No wonder the meta is so broken.

    I have builds to play all types but I like to buff / support team and be bait for enemy so they waste their time on me etc, deny enemy kills, debuffs etc...but even if I turn the tide of the fight or save my team from wipes 5 times over I still get crap points...

    Am I forced to just go full damage like everyone else? :(

    You do realize that you are talking one single matchtype here, right? In a Chaosball match, the exact OPPOSITE is true. Here the Tanks and the Healers will by far outscore anyone focused on killing people. Same is kind of true in Capture the Relic. While Domination is the only matchtype that equally favors all types.

    Also, it is perfectly possible to take any class and make a build that will get high scores on every type of match.
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