So about those hard world bosses

Katahdin

You know, those bosses that everyone cheered and jumped for joy because they were now hard to solo?
NO ONE DOES THEM ANYMORE...........NO ONE

I made the mistake of starting a new character for Summerset. I usually run them around and do bosses to level up and get the stupid things done because they are such a royal pain in the rear end. Beg in map chat, beg and beg and beg. NO ONE wants to do them, cant get them done unless youre in a starter zone, or Summerset or somewhere where they actually drop something people want. IF they dont drop something people want, you cant get help, beg for hours, no one comes, with 100 ppl in the zone.

So can we get these stupid bosses nerfed back into reality so that people can actually solo them again and get them done

gimpdrb14_ESO

agreed

MLGProPlayer

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

Kadoin

No.

Cage_Lizardman

Huh?

20k hp, some self heals and stay out of red, and you can solo most non-dlc world bosses without much trouble.

Doctordarkspawn

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

@MLGProPlayer

Like it or not, this is exactly what we stated would happen if you buffed them years in advance. When people got tired of them they'd become a deadzone.

Maybe people wanna be able to do the damn bosses again.

It is what it is. Nobody wants to do these anymore, they wanna do the worldbosses in new zones because those bosses have quests we can swap. So it's either create incentive or just nerf them.

Amoureros

I can solo almost every single world bosses. It's not impossible. You just need the right build.

Only the boss I failed to solo was wrothgar poacher. I think I can do it if I alter my build little bit.

rumple9

If they drop something worthwhile people will do them

Armatesz

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

I've solo'd the unfinished dolmen 4 times... it is a pain to do solo, hardest world boss imo and I've done all world bosses solo.

imnotanother

Some of them are pretty tough.

Kawall

Players shouldn't be able to solo world bosses. It's in their name after all. You can solo all of the base game world bosses with one self healing skill. Summerset world bosses my favorite part of the this chapter.

MLGProPlayer

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

@MLGProPlayer

Like it or not, this is exactly what we stated would happen if you buffed them years in advance. When people got tired of them they'd become a deadzone.

Maybe people wanna be able to do the damn bosses again.

It is what it is. Nobody wants to do these anymore, they wanna do the worldbosses in new zones because those bosses have quests we can swap. So it's either create incentive or just nerf them.

People don't do any old content after they're done with it. If you have trouble with a world boss, ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. It's really that simple. No need to nerf content because you don't want to use chat.

MLGProPlayer

Armatesz wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

I've solo'd the unfinished dolmen 4 times... it is a pain to do solo, hardest world boss imo and I've done all world bosses solo.

Good to know. I guess everything is soloable then. It's the only one I wasn't able to solo, but it's been ages since I tried it.

Armatesz

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Armatesz wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

I've solo'd the unfinished dolmen 4 times... it is a pain to do solo, hardest world boss imo and I've done all world bosses solo.

Good to know. I guess everything is soloable then. It's the only one I wasn't able to solo, but it's been ages since I tried it.

Hunger world boss in vvardenfell is a hard one because he can potentially pin you down and if you get that while you are doing solo you are screwed, it is a rare encounter where you can make it so that he never does the pin move making it so that you can solo him. Done the hunger world boss solo 7 times so far. It is a weird one to solo. Not sure if a glitch or intended that there is a way to avoid the pin. Looks more intended than a glitch to me honestly.

MLGProPlayer

Armatesz wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Armatesz wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

I've solo'd the unfinished dolmen 4 times... it is a pain to do solo, hardest world boss imo and I've done all world bosses solo.

Good to know. I guess everything is soloable then. It's the only one I wasn't able to solo, but it's been ages since I tried it.

Hunger world boss in vvardenfell is a hard one because he can potentially pin you down and if you get that while you are doing solo you are screwed, it is a rare encounter where you can make it so that he never does the pin move making it so that you can solo him. Done the hunger world boss solo 7 times so far. It is a weird one to solo. Not sure if a glitch or intended that there is a way to avoid the pin. Looks more intended than a glitch to me honestly.

I found the Vvardenfell bosses easier than Wrothgar (except for the hunger, that thing is a pain). Haven't tried the Summerset bosses yet, but I imagine it will be a few weeks before the zone is empty enough for a chance to solo them.

Cadbury

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Armatesz wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

I've solo'd the unfinished dolmen 4 times... it is a pain to do solo, hardest world boss imo and I've done all world bosses solo.

Good to know. I guess everything is soloable then. It's the only one I wasn't able to solo, but it's been ages since I tried it.

You can't solo it?

But...-points to username-

Armatesz

I should make a list of my top 5 or so hardest world bosses to try to solo.

idk

Zos has been challenged figuring out World bosses. They place to many around for them to be actual world bosses. It is really a joke.

It should be something that after the dust settles guilds, and zones, will form groups to go after the world bosses. As it is there is no reason for such things.

It is really sad.

Armatesz

Or maybe I should do one on each zone's hardest world boss... decisions decisions...

MLGProPlayer

idk wrote: »

Zos has been challenged figuring out World bosses. They place to many around for them to be actual world bosses. It is really a joke.

It should be something that after the dust settles guilds, and zones, will form groups to go after the world bosses. As it is there is no reason for such things.

It is really sad.

World bosses like the ones you're thinking off suck. In GW2, when a world boss spawns, 200 people go there to stand still and spam abilities at it for 10 minutes. It's cool in theory, but a total borefest in practice. They're just a giant target you spam abilities at.

I like the ESO approach much better. At least you can have fun soloing these ones.

Cage_Lizardman

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Armatesz wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Armatesz wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

I've solo'd the unfinished dolmen 4 times... it is a pain to do solo, hardest world boss imo and I've done all world bosses solo.

Good to know. I guess everything is soloable then. It's the only one I wasn't able to solo, but it's been ages since I tried it.

Hunger world boss in vvardenfell is a hard one because he can potentially pin you down and if you get that while you are doing solo you are screwed, it is a rare encounter where you can make it so that he never does the pin move making it so that you can solo him. Done the hunger world boss solo 7 times so far. It is a weird one to solo. Not sure if a glitch or intended that there is a way to avoid the pin. Looks more intended than a glitch to me honestly.

I found the Vvardenfell bosses easier than Wrothgar (except for the hunger, that thing is a pain). Haven't tried the Summerset bosses yet, but I imagine it will be a few weeks before the zone is empty enough for a chance to solo them.

I got a chance to solo the gryphons in summerset, but those dotted red circles kept oneshotting me and were too fast for me to dodge. Did they make them dotted just so they'd be harder to spot? ***.

Though I'm sure someone more determined, and maybe with a ward, would not have a problem with them.

Oh and I soloed the coral crab too. That was probably easier then the mudcrab in stormhaven.

Aesthier

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

That is the issue you can beg for hours in chat and get no responses whatsoever.


Not everyone can solo like the top 10-20% do.




While I don't enjoy trying to find groups to do bosses when no one is around I don't feel like weakening them is the correct answer either.

Cadbury

I'll just leave this here

https://destructoid.com/final-fantasy-xi-boss-causes-vomiting-takes-18-hours-to-beat-99391.phtml

Armatesz

Aesthier wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

That is the issue you can beg for hours in chat and get no responses whatsoever.


Not everyone can solo like the top 10-20% do.


I don't agree they should be nerfed as they were never increased in difficulty.

While I don't enjoy trying to find groups to do bosses when no one is around I don't feel like weakening them is the correct answer either.

Honestly I think it is less than 10% can solo world bosses from what I've seen.

MLGProPlayer

Aesthier wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

You can solo almost every world boss in the game (the only exception I can think of is the incomplete dolmen in Wrothgar).

If you can't, then ask for help in zone chat or guild chat. More people than you need will come to your aid. This is an MMO. Learn to use chat.

Stop asking for nerfs to content that doesn't need nerfs. Either get better, or ask for help. The solutions are simple.

That is the issue you can beg for hours in chat and get no responses whatsoever.


Not everyone can solo like the top 10-20% do.


I don't agree they should be nerfed as they were never increased in difficulty.

While I don't enjoy trying to find groups to do bosses when no one is around I don't feel like weakening them is the correct answer either.

When I was a low level, I would get 3-5 people spawning to me instantly whenever I'd ask for WB help. If you can't find someone in zone (which is extremely rare), guild mates are always eager to help.

I guess it can be difficult if you're on in off-peak hours, but if it's at a normal time, there are almost always tons of people willing to help.

idk

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Zos has been challenged figuring out World bosses. They place to many around for them to be actual world bosses. It is really a joke.

It should be something that after the dust settles guilds, and zones, will form groups to go after the world bosses. As it is there is no reason for such things.

It is really sad.

World bosses like the ones you're thinking off suck. In GW2, when a world boss spawns, 200 people go there to stand still and spam abilities at it for 10 minutes. It's cool in theory, but a total borefest in practice. They're just a giant target you spam abilities at.

I like the ESO approach much better. At least you can have fun soloing these ones.

So because ESO has not provided a sustainable reason for groups to do WBs you think that is a good idea merely because GW2 went overkill? Interesting but I do not see the logic in that.

MLGProPlayer

idk wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Zos has been challenged figuring out World bosses. They place to many around for them to be actual world bosses. It is really a joke.

It should be something that after the dust settles guilds, and zones, will form groups to go after the world bosses. As it is there is no reason for such things.

It is really sad.

World bosses like the ones you're thinking off suck. In GW2, when a world boss spawns, 200 people go there to stand still and spam abilities at it for 10 minutes. It's cool in theory, but a total borefest in practice. They're just a giant target you spam abilities at.

I like the ESO approach much better. At least you can have fun soloing these ones.

So because ESO has not provided a sustainable reason for groups to do WBs you think that is a good idea merely because GW2 went overkill? Interesting but I do not see the logic in that.

I'm just saying that the big world bosses are boring to kill. They can't provide a challenge if they attract a million people. The only way to do it properly would be to make bosses separate instances, but we have trials for that.

idk

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

idk wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Zos has been challenged figuring out World bosses. They place to many around for them to be actual world bosses. It is really a joke.

It should be something that after the dust settles guilds, and zones, will form groups to go after the world bosses. As it is there is no reason for such things.

It is really sad.

World bosses like the ones you're thinking off suck. In GW2, when a world boss spawns, 200 people go there to stand still and spam abilities at it for 10 minutes. It's cool in theory, but a total borefest in practice. They're just a giant target you spam abilities at.

I like the ESO approach much better. At least you can have fun soloing these ones.

So because ESO has not provided a sustainable reason for groups to do WBs you think that is a good idea merely because GW2 went overkill? Interesting but I do not see the logic in that.

I'm just saying that the big world bosses are boring to kill. They can't provide a challenge if they attract a million people. The only way to do it properly would be to make bosses separate instances, but we have trials for that.

You missed the point

ADarklore

It's funny how some people here are talking about how easy it is to kill World Bosses solo and yet, I've been playing for four years and still cannot SOLO a World Boss. No, I don't do trials, MA, or dungeons... I'm a solo quester running gear that I can acquire- since I don't have access to BiS 'end game' gear. I'd imagine that most players who can solo them have a LOT of experience at 'end game' content, but those of us who do not, which are the majority of players in the game, cannot solo world bosses.

Aesthier

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

When I was a low level,

I am assuming that was years ago.


Not years since you have had your most recent lowbie toon but years since those bosses in those odd locations were new or difficult for you.


But again that is an assumption.


While I am not fully capable of soloing them yet, I usually save them for when my best friend is online and we knock them out together or try (a few are still not quite in reach) at any rate.

And yeah even then there are times between 7pm t0 10pm when dependant on the zone we are in no one will come.


We do get more responders when we state in zone chat that "insert name" WB is going down hurry up. We usually state that before we begin traveling there to give people time to show up.

However, The frustration of running solo and begging for hours is still fresh.

No one wants to go unless they know it is going down which is one of the main reasons we state that it is regardless.

idk

ADarklore wrote: »

It's funny how some people here are talking about how easy it is to kill World Bosses solo and yet, I've been playing for four years and still cannot SOLO a World Boss. No, I don't do trials, MA, or dungeons... I'm a solo quester running gear that I can acquire- since I don't have access to BiS 'end game' gear. I'd imagine that most players who can solo them have a LOT of experience at 'end game' content, but those of us who do not, which are the majority of players in the game, cannot solo world bosses.

@ADarklore

It does not take BiS gear, just understanding how to approach it and wiling to fail.

Some of us soloed WBs during the first year of the game but we are talking about DLC bosses in this thread which are more challenging than base game WBs.

There is nothing wrong with you as a player just because you do not solo WBs. Everyone has different interests and that is just fine.