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Sloads and duroks bane should be looked into
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Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You can outheal defile on non CP and make it less than a tickle on CP. Defile isn’t actually strong enough against people who know how to play. Against potatoes it’s OP, I suppose.3 -
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✭why are these two sets implemented the way they are? Duroks bane has virtually no cooldown and defile is strong and this having no cooldown just makes healing that much tougher, and you combine that with sloads and you have a dot on you that you can only really heal through to counter and duroks bane makes it that much more frustrating to counter sloads… With the amount of cheese going around I am surprised zos hasn't come out and created a ingame pizza recipe that would make sheogorath proud
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
???
its not possible for stam build
we can tell you have jsut 2 dots and fromt hose slod is procing on you, many classes are using also more than jsut 2 dots
so even with only 2-3 dots and load you need to cast purge atlest 3 times becasue of also many other debuff effexts which can be easily to get in pvp from different classes like jsut status effects (tested it ofc with friend with sload)
stamina has mostly 10k max mag pool and rarely are going for mag regen, so common stamina build wont cast more than 2 times in row purge burning all his magica which is also needed for other utility than only purge0 -
TheYKcid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭L2PDoctordarkspawn wrote: »L2P.
Sloads is fine. And necessary.
say that to pvpers like @FENGRUSH or @Gilliamtherogue whom have openly stated that sloads is a horribly implemented set and needs to be deleted, experienced pvpers who know how to play
Blobs has been extremely outspoken against it, too, and for good reason.
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✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
Purge is bugged. So good luck with that. :-)
Sloads is like the old viper on steroids. I'm not surprised they didn't even learn.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
Purge is bugged. So good luck with that. :-)
Sloads is like the old viper on steroids. I'm not surprised they didn't even learn.
A viper that ignores all mitigation1 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭Oh durok’s bane proc when getting hit. When you chase ppl it provide only defensive stat and 0 dmg. It’s unbalanced for dueling, I agree. But it’s really not op in open world pvp. Sload does not do nearly enough dmg to be op.4
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✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
Purge is bugged. So good luck with that. :-)
Sloads is like the old viper on steroids. I'm not surprised they didn't even learn.
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BigBadVolk✭✭✭✭✭Well I give it at least half a year before zos nerf this set to oblivion, till then either run it with a defensive set (personally I go with sload, reposte and earthgore will change that too alchemist once I get my jewelry to there)
Until then just suffer and make forum posts "The ass is similar to the opinion: Everyone has it, but no one cares about the others!"
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Hutch679✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheValar85 wrote: »Sload is fine to be honest. finaly sorc got some candy dont robe them.
candy that can be used against them as stacking shield breaker and sloads will melt your sorc's defence
For sure gonna use sloads with infused one hand and shield and oblivion glyph on my stam dk. Spam wings, reverb, venom claw, noxious breath, heroic strike... this is how you deal with sorcs.0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
???
its not possible for stam build
we can tell you have jsut 2 dots and fromt hose slod is procing on you, many classes are using also more than jsut 2 dots
so even with only 2-3 dots and load you need to cast purge atlest 3 times becasue of also many other debuff effexts which can be easily to get in pvp from different classes like jsut status effects (tested it ofc with friend with sload)
stamina has mostly 10k max mag pool and rarely are going for mag regen, so common stamina build wont cast more than 2 times in row purge burning all his magica which is also needed for other utility than only purge
im a stamina nightblade, i use purge, it removes sloads dot.
the dot wont get replaced immediate because takes 6 seconds to cool down.1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
use purge.
and by the way, it is normal to die to prety much anything and everything when you are alone and trying to fight 5 people.
if you are fighting more then 1 person your chance of death should be double.
consider making a build that will be able to handle what you are coming up against the most in cryodiil.
if you are seeing people hit you with sloads constantly then plan to defend with a build against slaods.
Edited by Gilvoth on May 29, 2018 3:26PM6 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭.L2PDoctordarkspawn wrote: »L2P.
Sloads is fine. And necessary.
say that to pvpers like @FENGRUSH or @Gilliamtherogue whom have openly stated that sloads is a horribly implemented set and needs to be deleted, experienced pvpers who know how to play
you should be able to rely on your own inteligence and experience and ingame wisdom to make your own builds and make your own ideas of what works and does not work for You and Your current situation.
take the time to study your game and how it works instead of relying on popular complaints.1 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
???
its not possible for stam build
we can tell you have jsut 2 dots and fromt hose slod is procing on you, many classes are using also more than jsut 2 dots
so even with only 2-3 dots and load you need to cast purge atlest 3 times becasue of also many other debuff effexts which can be easily to get in pvp from different classes like jsut status effects (tested it ofc with friend with sload)
stamina has mostly 10k max mag pool and rarely are going for mag regen, so common stamina build wont cast more than 2 times in row purge burning all his magica which is also needed for other utility than only purge
im a stamina nightblade, i use purge, it removes sloads dot.
the dot wont get replaced immediate because takes 6 seconds to cool down.
so you was or lucki and you had no any other dots
yes I could use purge for this if I will fight agaisnt people without dot spam
but I tested yesterday it with friend whjo was using only 3 doth where 1 of this was not even noticable volitile armor and with sload ofc
so I had maybe m25-33% chance to purge just sload from those 4 dot s in overall with other debuf applied on me
purge is not efficient against this with common enemies whoa re using 1-3 dots not even on dot build (1 dot can be from axes and other dot jsut from status effect)
I really triet to have use of purge but dont work, as I wrote I have maybe 25% chance to get purge on slad becuase of many other negative effects + even single purge is eating mostly half of my magica regen and even when I have 1.4k mag regen from drink I will use purge 2 times in row and have magica only for 1 more purge or cloak and then I cant even cast this 1 cloak more after this while still I have not guaranted sload will be purged0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
???
its not possible for stam build
we can tell you have jsut 2 dots and fromt hose slod is procing on you, many classes are using also more than jsut 2 dots
so even with only 2-3 dots and load you need to cast purge atlest 3 times becasue of also many other debuff effexts which can be easily to get in pvp from different classes like jsut status effects (tested it ofc with friend with sload)
stamina has mostly 10k max mag pool and rarely are going for mag regen, so common stamina build wont cast more than 2 times in row purge burning all his magica which is also needed for other utility than only purge
im a stamina nightblade, i use purge, it removes sloads dot.
the dot wont get replaced immediate because takes 6 seconds to cool down.
so you was or lucki and you had no any other dots
yes I could use purge for this if I will fight agaisnt people without dot spam
but I tested yesterday it with friend whjo was using only 3 doth where 1 of this was not even noticable volitile armor and with sload ofc
so I had maybe m25-33% chance to purge just sload from those 4 dot s in overall with other debuf applied on me
purge is not efficient against this with common enemies whoa re using 1-3 dots not even on dot build (1 dot can be from axes and other dot jsut from status effect)
I really triet to have use of purge but dont work, as I wrote I have maybe 25% chance to get purge on slad becuase of many other negative effects + even single purge is eating mostly half of my magica regen and even when I have 1.4k mag regen from drink I will use purge 2 times in row and have magica only for 1 more purge or cloak and then I cant even cast this 1 cloak more after this while still I have not guaranted sload will be purged
then your build should be adjusted.
are you running into that type of fight all the time or just once in a while?
purge should not be your one and only defence, but it should work when you need it to.
if you are finding that you need purge to be cast multiple times in every single fight then why not make a build that is able to cast purge multiple times like you need.
you are not bound to one specific build, eso changes every 90 days, and so does my build.
we all face that because of patches.2 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
???
its not possible for stam build
we can tell you have jsut 2 dots and fromt hose slod is procing on you, many classes are using also more than jsut 2 dots
so even with only 2-3 dots and load you need to cast purge atlest 3 times becasue of also many other debuff effexts which can be easily to get in pvp from different classes like jsut status effects (tested it ofc with friend with sload)
stamina has mostly 10k max mag pool and rarely are going for mag regen, so common stamina build wont cast more than 2 times in row purge burning all his magica which is also needed for other utility than only purge
im a stamina nightblade, i use purge, it removes sloads dot.
the dot wont get replaced immediate because takes 6 seconds to cool down.
so you was or lucki and you had no any other dots
yes I could use purge for this if I will fight agaisnt people without dot spam
but I tested yesterday it with friend whjo was using only 3 doth where 1 of this was not even noticable volitile armor and with sload ofc
so I had maybe m25-33% chance to purge just sload from those 4 dot s in overall with other debuf applied on me
purge is not efficient against this with common enemies whoa re using 1-3 dots not even on dot build (1 dot can be from axes and other dot jsut from status effect)
I really triet to have use of purge but dont work, as I wrote I have maybe 25% chance to get purge on slad becuase of many other negative effects + even single purge is eating mostly half of my magica regen and even when I have 1.4k mag regen from drink I will use purge 2 times in row and have magica only for 1 more purge or cloak and then I cant even cast this 1 cloak more after this while still I have not guaranted sload will be purged
then your build should be adjusted.
are you running into that type of fight all the time or just once in a while?
purge should not be your one and only defence, but it should work when you need it to.
if you are finding that you need purge to be cast multiple times in every single fight then why not make a build that is able to cast purge multiple times like you need.
you are not bound to one specific build, eso changes every 90 days, and so does my build.
we all face that because of patches.
before sload only reason to slot purge was mark, I was able to survive spam dot fest becuase of cloak
I had just 16health, I was really squishy but I was builded for regens (1.5k mag reg and 2.9k stam reg when vampire)
but even with this my regen I cannot survive anymoe dot spam fest just by simply not working cloak becasue:
a) cloak dont work because of sload
b) cant cast cloak because of magica wasterd for purge so at all im still dying because:
- just getting nuke because of no cloak
- every other dot reapplied and now melted by dots becasue also no cloak to surpress it1 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭Sload's is far too OP and is even P2W as it's only craftable with Summerset. In no-cp BG's you can't out heal Sloads, especially when the cheese lords are running it with Durok's and Skoria. They just apply their dot's, let Skoria auto proc on cool-down, and watch you burn. GG.Edited by akray21 on May 29, 2018 8:05PM0
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tannips✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »use purge, it will remove the dot from sloads.
???
its not possible for stam build
we can tell you have jsut 2 dots and fromt hose slod is procing on you, many classes are using also more than jsut 2 dots
so even with only 2-3 dots and load you need to cast purge atlest 3 times becasue of also many other debuff effexts which can be easily to get in pvp from different classes like jsut status effects (tested it ofc with friend with sload)
stamina has mostly 10k max mag pool and rarely are going for mag regen, so common stamina build wont cast more than 2 times in row purge burning all his magica which is also needed for other utility than only purge
im a stamina nightblade, i use purge, it removes sloads dot.
the dot wont get replaced immediate because takes 6 seconds to cool down.
so you was or lucki and you had no any other dots
yes I could use purge for this if I will fight agaisnt people without dot spam
but I tested yesterday it with friend whjo was using only 3 doth where 1 of this was not even noticable volitile armor and with sload ofc
so I had maybe m25-33% chance to purge just sload from those 4 dot s in overall with other debuf applied on me
purge is not efficient against this with common enemies whoa re using 1-3 dots not even on dot build (1 dot can be from axes and other dot jsut from status effect)
I really triet to have use of purge but dont work, as I wrote I have maybe 25% chance to get purge on slad becuase of many other negative effects + even single purge is eating mostly half of my magica regen and even when I have 1.4k mag regen from drink I will use purge 2 times in row and have magica only for 1 more purge or cloak and then I cant even cast this 1 cloak more after this while still I have not guaranted sload will be purged
then your build should be adjusted.
are you running into that type of fight all the time or just once in a while?
purge should not be your one and only defence, but it should work when you need it to.
if you are finding that you need purge to be cast multiple times in every single fight then why not make a build that is able to cast purge multiple times like you need.
you are not bound to one specific build, eso changes every 90 days, and so does my build.
we all face that because of patches.
It's not a build issue with sloads. There's literally no counterplay for it with the exception of purge. Good luck running that on a stam class and sustaining it. You seem to also forget that you shouldn't have to play a completely defense oriented build in order to deal with one set that's both overperforming and super easy to attain. And even if you are playing a completely defensive build, guess what? It doesn't matter. Sloads is flat damage that can't be resisted. This set was a terrible idea and I can't wait for it to be nerfed.3 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: ».L2PDoctordarkspawn wrote: »L2P.
Sloads is fine. And necessary.
say that to pvpers like @FENGRUSH or @Gilliamtherogue whom have openly stated that sloads is a horribly implemented set and needs to be deleted, experienced pvpers who know how to play
you should be able to rely on your own inteligence and experience and ingame wisdom to make your own builds and make your own ideas of what works and does not work for You and Your current situation.
take the time to study your game and how it works instead of relying on popular complaints.
Says the guy who has been complaining about sorcs for the past 3 years cause he cant kill one without the help of an entire group. The irony.8 -
Gilliamtherogue✭✭✭✭✭
✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: ».L2PDoctordarkspawn wrote: »L2P.
Sloads is fine. And necessary.
say that to pvpers like @FENGRUSH or @Gilliamtherogue whom have openly stated that sloads is a horribly implemented set and needs to be deleted, experienced pvpers who know how to play
you should be able to rely on your own inteligence and experience and ingame wisdom to make your own builds and make your own ideas of what works and does not work for You and Your current situation.
take the time to study your game and how it works instead of relying on popular complaints.
There is no intelligence or thought provoking gameplay in a set that forces every single person in the game to run a purge. That's called imbalance if one set is so strong that everyone in the game is forced to run a counter to it. Please refrain from giving advice that can't even follow its own line of logic.
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barshemm✭✭✭✭So I decided to try and put together something that covers most of the complaints in this forum.
I ran sload, shield breaker, troll king front bar dw with back bar vma battle axe. Front bar is axe and mace. Umm weapons are purple but mace is infused with oblivion enchant.
Over all even with front bar purple weapons I could hold my one 1v1 and 1v2 against most classes. Tanks melt to bleeds and any sorcs not smart enough to dodge roll and steak melted. Though mostly the build is actually over all extremely well to good mag sorcs.
Sload though... Nerf it. In 1v1 and 1v2 situations it was my top damage. 1v3+ hurricane would finally pass it.
Add the fact it breaks cloak and procs off anything, I had it proc on siege... It's way over performing.
Considering trying out a sword and shield back bar instead of 2h just to add major defile.2 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Gilliamtherogue wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: ».L2PDoctordarkspawn wrote: »L2P.
Sloads is fine. And necessary.
say that to pvpers like @FENGRUSH or @Gilliamtherogue whom have openly stated that sloads is a horribly implemented set and needs to be deleted, experienced pvpers who know how to play
you should be able to rely on your own inteligence and experience and ingame wisdom to make your own builds and make your own ideas of what works and does not work for You and Your current situation.
take the time to study your game and how it works instead of relying on popular complaints.
There is no intelligence or thought provoking gameplay in a set that forces every single person in the game to run a purge. That's called imbalance if one set is so strong that everyone in the game is forced to run a counter to it. Please refrain from giving advice that can't even follow its own line of logic.
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✭It is ironic to see some of the fiercest of NB defenders come here to defend the obvious cheese combo. I mean, Sload's Semblance will pull them out of their oh so precious Cloak and Durok's Bane won't let them heal themselves. This should be of more concern to NBs than Sorcs. And yet, here they are, defending these two sets thinking that they are the least affected when it is the opposite.Peekachu99 wrote: »You can outheal defile on non CP and make it less than a tickle on CP. Defile isn’t actually strong enough against people who know how to play. Against potatoes it’s OP, I suppose.
You cannot outdo Defile CP or non-CP by yourself. Not every class has Major Mending readily available and Major Vitality only lasts very short amount of time. Defile also will be reapplied regardless of those and still prevent you from healing a lot. You can keep thinking it ain't OP. I mean, that is how most large group runners think anyways.
Left Click meta so smaht and skillful hurr durr
Edited by IZZEFlameLash on May 29, 2018 11:16PMImperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel2 -
lazerlaz✭✭✭Edit: to those of you saying to purge it, let me just waste the virtually nonexistent pool of magic casting it on a stam class and get the same debuff 2 seconds later.
why are these two sets implemented the way they are? Duroks bane has virtually no cooldown and defile is strong and this having no cooldown just makes healing that much tougher, and you combine that with sloads and you have a dot on you that you can only really heal through to counter and duroks bane makes it that much more frustrating to counter sloads… With the amount of cheese going around I am surprised zos hasn't come out and created a ingame pizza recipe that would make sheogorath proud
Because people need to die okay?! If things like this were not in the game there would be too many infinite sustain block and heal tools out there as if there aren't enough already.
Think of defile and sload as balance to that and your life will be much less stressful
On another note, sload is craftable and available to everyone. USE IT.Edited by lazerlaz on May 30, 2018 3:27AM1 -
Thunderknuckles✭✭✭✭Teach a rookie. This has to be multiple people focusing the same player with Sload's, right? I mean, 1v1 it doesn't seem like it'd be that bad with a 6 second cool down. I haven't had a chance to get back into Cyro since Summerset due largely to limited play time.0
