Everyone is too healthy in ESO

Tan9oSuccka

Plenty of diseases in ESO. Wizards Reposte among others.

Thunderknuckles

I dunno, man. It's a fantasy game. This is taking realism too far. Among a thousand other examples....we can fricking teleport across and to other zones. Know why they do this instead of making us spend an actual 3 months travelling to another locale like it might be in real life? Because it's a game.

I can just imagine:

Tom's buddy, "Hey Tom, we're running Aetherium Archive, wanna join us?"

Tom, "Can't, man. I'm still on the road and it's gonna be another five days before I get to the location."

Tom's buddy, "No worries, man. Hope you don't catch any fatal illnesses on your way."

Lysette

Tabbycat wrote: »

You look rather pale. It could be ataxia.

Are you interested in my potions and elixirs?

Near - are you interested in my potions and ingredients :-)

To the topic: diseases were not really a problem in Skyrim, because those could be cured by just praying at an altar of the divines. I guess, role players would like it - me too - but ESO has as well a whole lot of people, who aren't into role play and so it might be better to not implement those.

Tabbycat

Lysette wrote: »

Tabbycat wrote: »

You look rather pale. It could be ataxia.

Are you interested in my potions and elixirs?

Near - are you interested in my potions and ingredients :-)

To the topic: diseases were not really a problem in Skyrim, because those could be cured by just praying at an altar of the divines. I guess, role players would like it - me too - but ESO has as well a whole lot of people, who aren't into role play and so it might be better to not implement those.

Pft. Of course she doesn't offer elixirs. Hers aren't as good as mine.

AlienatedGoat

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

I dunno, man. It's a fantasy game. This is taking realism too far. Among a thousand other examples....we can fricking teleport across and to other zones. Know why they do this instead of making us spend an actual 3 months travelling to another locale like it might be in real life? Because it's a game.

I can just imagine:

Tom's buddy, "Hey Tom, we're running Aetherium Archive, wanna join us?"

Tom, "Can't, man. I'm still on the road and it's gonna be another five days before I get to the location."

Tom's buddy, "No worries, man. Hope you don't catch any fatal illnesses on your way."

It being a fantasy game is irrelevant. All the other modern TES titles had far more mentions of disease and illness, not to mention actual diseases and illnesses.

Again, not looking for a full disease system in ESO, not really, it's just another annoyance in a game full of annoyances.

It would just be nice to have more mentions of it in quests and conversation, to make the world feel more like the other TES titles.

Tyrobag

The Vestige is immune to mundane diseases as a soul shriven. (ex: walking through Obsidian Gorge while it was full of Llodos Plague) They can still become werewolves and vampires because those are also the blessing/curse of Daedric Princes.

DanteYoda

Its a game op...

ArchMikem

DanteYoda wrote: »

Its a game op...

So is Skyrim, and that game had a ton of sickness.

TheShadowScout

Tyrobag wrote: »

The Vestige is immune to mundane diseases as a soul shriven. (ex: walking through Obsidian Gorge while it was full of Llodos Plague) They can still become werewolves and vampires because those are also the blessing/curse of Daedric Princes.

That is probably the best answer, fluff-wise.
Any disease we catch, lasts only for moments of debuff before it throws up its hands and gives up with our characters coldharbour-fuelled demi-daedric constitutions...

...


Although, it -would- have been nice to have disease be more of a game factor. Some minor ones that can be fixed with simple time and healing spells, like a cold you might catch it you jump into water in eastmarch, and some more serious ones that would linger and debuff people for a very long time and might require a extra-special alchemy potion to cure, which would be available at any town alchemist, or easily self-made if your character was skilled enough, but... would be vexing, and thus add a extra sense of danger when fighting plague-carrier mobs...

SugaComa

Phage wrote: »

Everyone is too healthy in ESO; both NPCs and players.

There are only three diseases in ESO that I know of: Sanies Lupinus, Noxiphilic Sanguivoria, and Llodos Plague.

Only two of those are contractible by players, and both are transmitted by direct infection through bites.

Where's the rest of the diseases, like Rockjoint and Ataxia? In Oblivion, the player could contract tons of different diseases (easily curable by a cure disease potion). Wouldn't even matter to me if it was just present in quests or in dialogue. But it's very strange to see so little disease in the past, when the future holds much of it.

Have you seen any other mentions of disease in ESO that I missed? Do you think we need more?

If anyone wants a quick look at some of the weird diseases in TES lore, give this a read: http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Disease

In real life many people died of diseases that had no name because the reality is we hadn't discovered it ... So often we had illnesses misdiagnosed, just put it down to that n enjoy the blessed ignorance of not knowing what it is that ails you

Shawn_PT

Phage wrote: »

Rain_Greyraven wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

Everyone is too healthy in ESO; both NPCs and players.

There are only three diseases in ESO that I know of: Sanies Lupinus, Noxiphilic Sanguivoria, and Llodos Plague.

Only two of those are contractible by players, and both are transmitted by direct infection through bites.

Where's the rest of the diseases, like Rockjoint and Ataxia? In Oblivion, the player could contract tons of different diseases (easily curable by a cure disease potion). Wouldn't even matter to me if it was just present in quests or in dialogue. But it's very strange to see so little disease in the past, when the future holds much of it.

Have you seen any other mentions of disease in ESO that I missed? Do you think we need more?

If anyone wants a quick look at some of the weird diseases in TES lore, give this a read: http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Disease

Wow...you're just a ray of sunshine today.....

I'm actually in a great mood today, thanks for noticing!

Shawn_PT wrote: »

There are plenty of diseases. If you notice your status while fighting some mobs you'll notice a debuff that lasts for like 8 seconds and which has a disease's name. Rockjoint iirc can be caught from a Durzog's heavy attack. We just don't much notice because they go away a few seconds later.

The only status I notice is slow.

Slow...

Slow...

Slow...

Rockjoint's effect IS a snare

And possibly a slight DoT. They're so trivial I've never actually paid attention.

Lysette

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Tyrobag wrote: »

The Vestige is immune to mundane diseases as a soul shriven. (ex: walking through Obsidian Gorge while it was full of Llodos Plague) They can still become werewolves and vampires because those are also the blessing/curse of Daedric Princes.

That is probably the best answer, fluff-wise.
Any disease we catch, lasts only for moments of debuff before it throws up its hands and gives up with our characters coldharbour-fuelled demi-daedric constitutions...

...


Although, it -would- have been nice to have disease be more of a game factor. Some minor ones that can be fixed with simple time and healing spells, like a cold you might catch it you jump into water in eastmarch, and some more serious ones that would linger and debuff people for a very long time and might require a extra-special alchemy potion to cure, which would be available at any town alchemist, or easily self-made if your character was skilled enough, but... would be vexing, and thus add a extra sense of danger when fighting plague-carrier mobs...

you do not catch a cold from jumping into cold water - a cold is a virus infection.

Thunderknuckles

Phage wrote: »

Thunderknuckles wrote: »

I dunno, man. It's a fantasy game. This is taking realism too far. Among a thousand other examples....we can fricking teleport across and to other zones. Know why they do this instead of making us spend an actual 3 months travelling to another locale like it might be in real life? Because it's a game.

I can just imagine:

Tom's buddy, "Hey Tom, we're running Aetherium Archive, wanna join us?"

Tom, "Can't, man. I'm still on the road and it's gonna be another five days before I get to the location."

Tom's buddy, "No worries, man. Hope you don't catch any fatal illnesses on your way."

It being a fantasy game is irrelevant. All the other modern TES titles had far more mentions of disease and illness, not to mention actual diseases and illnesses.

Again, not looking for a full disease system in ESO, not really, it's just another annoyance in a game full of annoyances.

It would just be nice to have more mentions of it in quests and conversation, to make the world feel more like the other TES titles.

Ah gotcha. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

TheShadowScout

Lysette wrote: »

you do not catch a cold from jumping into cold water - a cold is a virus infection.

True.
But you do make your body a lot more susceptible to succumbing to that by jumping into cold water and then running around with wet clothes in winter then when you keep nicely warm and packed in dry layers of clothing, riiiight?

What I was trying to say is, I would love it if there were various different ways to "catch something", other then the usual "bitten by rabid skeever during combat" thing that many games do have... no matter if running around in wet clothes after that water jump or eating the raw fish dish in that malabel tor dockside inn, getting bit by mosquitos in black marsh or visiting some brothel in wayrest...

DoctorESO

Speaking of healthy, does anyone notice that 99% of all NPCs look like they are in incredible shape?

Heka Cain

So what's wrong with being elfy if you're an Elf?

Ilithyania

Left part of Deshan

SixVoltCar

Phage wrote: »

Everyone is too healthy in ESO; both NPCs and players.

There are only three diseases in ESO that I know of: Sanies Lupinus, Noxiphilic Sanguivoria, and Llodos Plague.

Only two of those are contractible by players, and both are transmitted by direct infection through bites.

Where's the rest of the diseases, like Rockjoint and Ataxia? In Oblivion, the player could contract tons of different diseases (easily curable by a cure disease potion). Wouldn't even matter to me if it was just present in quests or in dialogue. But it's very strange to see so little disease in the past, when the future holds much of it.

Have you seen any other mentions of disease in ESO that I missed? Do you think we need more?

If anyone wants a quick look at some of the weird diseases in TES lore, give this a read: http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Disease

Because I want to have my naughties prodded by a medical professional every time I run through the now-increased mob density because way back when, a couple of MLG pros suggested that the world felt empty DOES THAT SOUND FUN TO YOU

Lysette

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

you do not catch a cold from jumping into cold water - a cold is a virus infection.

True.
But you do make your body a lot more susceptible to succumbing to that by jumping into cold water and then running around with wet clothes in winter then when you keep nicely warm and packed in dry layers of clothing, riiiight?

What I was trying to say is, I would love it if there were various different ways to "catch something", other then the usual "bitten by rabid skeever during combat" thing that many games do have... no matter if running around in wet clothes after that water jump or eating the raw fish dish in that malabel tor dockside inn, getting bit by mosquitos in black marsh or visiting some brothel in wayrest...

Having played Skyrim winter edition with frostfall hardcore mode, I know exactly how that is to fall in water and having a hard time to get a fire going to warm up, before you freeze to death. It is great for role players, but I bet a lot would hate it in ESO, because they aren't into roleplay at all.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO

You can't expect ESO to be immersive.

DanteYoda

ArchMikem wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

Its a game op...

So is Skyrim, and that game had a ton of sickness.

Which is really annoying to play..

Lysette

DanteYoda wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

Its a game op...

So is Skyrim, and that game had a ton of sickness.

Which is really annoying to play..

But it gave you a good reason to master alchemy, so that is not much of annoyance anymore -and there are amulets as well,which can protect you - like I said, it would be nice for roleplayers, but not for those, who are just playing themselves in an alter ego.

TheShadowScout

Lysette wrote: »

Having played Skyrim winter edition with frostfall hardcore mode, I know exactly how that is to fall in water and having a hard time to get a fire going to warm up, before you freeze to death. It is great for role players, but I bet a lot would hate it in ESO, because they aren't into roleplay at all.

All too true. Sadly.
I suppose I do like me some roleplayinglish semi-realism in my gaming...
But I can understand that not everyone does.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

You can't expect ESO to be immersive.

...
...but we can dream about it, right?

SpiderCultist

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

So healthy nobody has any young kids!

Create a bosmer, the most skinny and smallest one and there you go: your young kid.

bloodthirstyvampire

Heka Cain wrote: »

So what's wrong with being elfy if you're an Elf?

bloodthirstyvampire

SpiderCultist wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

So healthy nobody has any young kids!

Create a bosmer, the most skinny and smallest one and there you go: your young kid.

With a heavy smokers face

AhPook_Is_Here

once you realize this isn't the real tamriel and just a big joke by sheo, everything makes a lot more sense.