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What is the difference between an expansion and a DLC ?
Vostorn
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Hey guys,
I was wondering as the title says : "What is the difference between an expansion and a DLC ?"
First I was thinking DLC means DownLoadable Content but both DLC and expansions are downloadable.
Then I thought it was a matter of content but I feel Orsinium had way more content than SSI.
Finaly, I thought that an expansion can be bought physically but still, I can physically buy ESO gold which are DLC.
So, what differentiates an expansions than a DLC ?
I was wondering as the title says : "What is the difference between an expansion and a DLC ?"
First I was thinking DLC means DownLoadable Content but both DLC and expansions are downloadable.
Then I thought it was a matter of content but I feel Orsinium had way more content than SSI.
Finaly, I thought that an expansion can be bought physically but still, I can physically buy ESO gold which are DLC.
So, what differentiates an expansions than a DLC ?
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
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Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭DLCs cost crowns and can be obtained by ESO+.
Chapters are available only by "real money" payment.Edited by Ladislao on May 23, 2018 11:36AMEverything is viable3 -
Geekgirl✭✭✭Whether or not ZoS will charge Crown+ players to purchase it before playing?
DLC = Crown+ gets it bundled in.
Expansion = everyone needs to purchase the content
This is how I have been translating it anyway.
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Merenwen_812✭✭✭The technical reason they give is you do not need the base game to play.
You can go buy summerset and jump right in while the dlc you need to have a version of the game to gain access to.0 -
Vostorn✭✭✭✭
Well, but ZoS told when Tamirel Unlimited went out that any DLC would be available to ESO+ subscribers.DLC are included in ESO+. Chapters are not. That’s basically the main difference (apart from DLC being group dungeon-centric most times).
If an expansion is a DLC, what should I think, then ?0 -
Yzalirk✭✭✭✭I was confused by this for a while too. I believe expansions add never explorable areas, like Orsinium. Yearly chapters may fall under this category as well except they are separate from an ESO+ subscription. DLC, generally speaking, simply add new dungeons or trials.Edited by Yzalirk on May 23, 2018 11:45AM0
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Menelaos✭✭✭✭If an expansion is a DLC, what should I think, then ?
A Chapter is a DLC you get for free one year after its release bundled along with the next Chapter for which you have to pay hard bucks. Or something...
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Well, but ZoS told when Tamirel Unlimited went out that any DLC would be available to ESO+ subscribers.DLC are included in ESO+. Chapters are not. That’s basically the main difference (apart from DLC being group dungeon-centric most times).
If an expansion is a DLC, what should I think, then ?
Do a search of the forums. This has been discussed ad nauseum for months when Morrowind was announced. ZoS has said Summerset is a chapter and not part of ESO+. As much as we may disagree, that is not going to change (for now).
If you want to play it now, pay now or wait and hope they make it ESO+ in a year like they did with Morrowind.Edited by Katahdin on May 23, 2018 12:12PMBeta tester November 20130 -
sdtlc✭✭✭✭✭As we have learned, by buying the expansion "Chapter" you bought early access to a future dlc.
Have fun with it.Die Qualität verhält sich nicht zwingend proportional zur Masse...
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✭✭✭✭✭A DLC is released for crowns or ESO+
A Chapter is released for cold, hard cash, and a year later suddenly turns into a DLC (for crowns and ESO+) and base game content.
Yeah, its basically ZOS wanting cold, hard cash instead of "I only buy at 50% off sale price" crowns.Edited by VaranisArano on May 23, 2018 11:50AM2 -
lardvader✭✭✭✭✭Nothing - just a way to bypass the model so they dont have to give access with ESO+
Orsinium is still the best "chapter" and was released as DLC from the beginning.CP 1200+ PC EU EP5 -
Raraaku✭✭✭✭The difference is about tree fiddy of your monies.
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✭✭For the people here saying the difference is zero;
a DLC delivers a balance patch and new content.
a chapter delivers the new path balance will take for the comming year, new content, and extra content too base game.
So yah, people crying just because they want to.
First two 'chapters' were free for players; Tamriel Unlimited came as a patch, same with One Tamriel (both just added too base game), then morrowind came a year after one tamriel. With basegame upgrades, a new continent etc etc.
And now we are on summerset, the best chapter till now
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Well, but ZoS told when Tamirel Unlimited went out that any DLC would be available to ESO+ subscribers.DLC are included in ESO+. Chapters are not. That’s basically the main difference (apart from DLC being group dungeon-centric most times).
If an expansion is a DLC, what should I think, then ?
You should think businesses will do whatever they can to make money, even when it means lying to customers.1 -
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✭✭✭Had it not been for Orsinium, ZoS would have gotten away with their shite excuses. But ...0 -
profundidob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Hey guys,
I was wondering as the title says : "What is the difference between an expansion and a DLC ?"
First I was thinking DLC means DownLoadable Content but both DLC and expansions are downloadable.
Then I thought it was a matter of content but I feel Orsinium had way more content than SSI.
Finaly, I thought that an expansion can be bought physically but still, I can physically buy ESO gold which are DLC.
So, what differentiates an expansions than a DLC ?
In theory (common consensus in the world):
An expansion expands the basegame, making the entire game bigger than before by changing the base elements that were there from day 1
DownLoadableContent adds extra content without expanding or changing the basegame elements
example of 'DLC': Zos adds a separate zone where one can go kill a specific thievery or murdery questline in it's own separate zone and nothing changes to the basegame. Another example would be adding 2 complete new dungeons as new, separate and extra content without touching basegame
example of 'Expansion': they expand the the basegame crafting system with a new craft called "jewelcrafting" and a complete new player class and they change all existing related content. As a result, runnning the same basegame dungeons will never be the same because the group will content the new Warden class. Also basic game economy and crafting locations change forever after the addition of the new craft
In practise (implementation by ZOS):
Zos got it all wrong and mixes them together in every DLC and every expansion so the only difference is indeed the extra required real money
Edited by profundidob16_ESO on May 23, 2018 1:09PM0 -
dbgager✭✭✭The difference is in the definnition. DLC stands for downloadable content. DLC is downloaded and purchased from the internet. AN expansion however may be available at a retailer on disk. Summerset is available from retailers so it is by defintition and expansion and not DLC.Edited by dbgager on May 23, 2018 3:04PM0
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Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭I'm quite sure that Orsinium would be called a chapter today, not a DLC. So it's "Chapter 0", Morrowind is "Chapter 1" and now Summerset is "Chapter 2".1
