Trial finders

lukastef

Like the title says, why cant we simply have trial finder where you assign your role and trial you want to play and finder groups you up with people you need just like in dungeon finders. I dont understand why we still dont have this much more time would be saved this way

patents

Yes please

Astrid

Agree, though veteran trials have very little success with pug groups. Normal sure.

Digiman

Would be nice and make it easier for us, there is plenty of success in other MMO's that do this even with the headache of a pug and will help fill missing members for a premade.

Peekachu99

I’d like a LFG interface instead, which lets you select and detail the kind of party/ people you want: casual, clear, hardcore completion, achievement farming, pledges. The social interface in this game is terrible and they’re making money hand over fist so there’s no excuse.

Uviryth

God yes!

bkzland

Please make this happen. +1

MLGProPlayer

Would be great for farming gear. Setting up a trial group manually takes herculean effort. Most trade guilds run a normal trial every week, but sometimes I want to finish a set asap, so being able to queue for multiple normal trials in succession is perfect. I don't have time to dedicate to a progression guild.

This would also increase trials participation.

Dymence

Would work great for normal, vet not so much.

idk

We have trial finder. It is called a guild.

Granted, craglorn normal trials could work in GF. vMoL and vHoF will probably often be a train wreck. Vet versions is an absolute perfect storm and should never be part of GF>

Zos could put forward rewards for grouping for a random normal trial but that would just mean the guilds will use it if they want the reward.

efduncanub17_ESO

just got to any major city and you will find people looking for trial groups...craglorn especially...Most normal trials are face roll but ones like HRC would be a nightmare with Randoms...Do ppl just have issues making friends and finding guilds?

nursingninja

Don't know if I'd like that. I like the ability to screen who comes along without kicking people who waited in a queue.

MLGProPlayer

idk wrote: »

We have trial finder. It is called a guild.

Granted, craglorn normal trials could work in GF. vMoL and vHoF will probably often be a train wreck. Vet versions is an absolute perfect storm and should never be part of GF>

Zos could put forward rewards for grouping for a random normal trial but that would just mean the guilds will use it if they want the reward.

Guilds don't run trials every night, they have a set schedule. If you can't make that schedule, you're SOL.

MLGProPlayer

nursingninja wrote: »

Don't know if I'd like that. I like the ability to screen who comes along without kicking people who waited in a queue.

You could still do that. You wouldn't be forced to use the queue.

MLGProPlayer

efduncanub17_ESO wrote: »

just got to any major city and you will find people looking for trial groups...craglorn especially...Most normal trials are face roll but ones like HRC would be a nightmare with Randoms...Do ppl just have issues making friends and finding guilds?

Problem is scheduling. Guilds run trials on a strict schedule. A lot of people play this game sporadically (i.e. whenever they have time). A trial finder would be especially useful for farming gear.

Two of my guilds run trials pretty regularly. But as someone with an irregular schedule (I'm a PhD student), I can't meet that schedule 90% of the time. I'd like to be able to hop into a trial whenever I'm online.

idk

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

idk wrote: »

We have trial finder. It is called a guild.

Granted, craglorn normal trials could work in GF. vMoL and vHoF will probably often be a train wreck. Vet versions is an absolute perfect storm and should never be part of GF>

Zos could put forward rewards for grouping for a random normal trial but that would just mean the guilds will use it if they want the reward.

Guilds don't run trials every night, they have a set schedule. If you can't make that schedule, you're SOL.

There are guild that run trials most every day. Even outside of that I have been in guilds that raid 4-5 nights a week.

If you are in an active guild and want to raid then organize it.

If you are not in a guild where they do any raiding, find a guild that does. We have 5 guild slots. Heck, as for normal raids you can organize them from your trade guild. It really is that simple. Even in another game that does actually have normal raids in GF, it rarely pops.

Even your comment that guilds run raids on strict schedules is not entirely correct. A raid guild runs scheduled raids and impromptu raids. How do you think the weekly leaderboard fills. Mostly impromptu raids.

Mostly what is missing in active guilds is someone to actually bother to get 12 people together (and in the right roles).

Be the solution.

Bhaal5

Find a guild? Plently of them do trials

Plus do we really trust them with another group finder considering the state of the dungeon and BGs one?

srfrogg23

It would be nice for normal mode. Done just about all the dungeons to death. It’d be nice to pug some trials.

MLGProPlayer

idk wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

idk wrote: »

We have trial finder. It is called a guild.

Granted, craglorn normal trials could work in GF. vMoL and vHoF will probably often be a train wreck. Vet versions is an absolute perfect storm and should never be part of GF>

Zos could put forward rewards for grouping for a random normal trial but that would just mean the guilds will use it if they want the reward.

Guilds don't run trials every night, they have a set schedule. If you can't make that schedule, you're SOL.

There are guild that run trials most every day. Even outside of that I have been in guilds that raid 4-5 nights a week.

If you are in an active guild and want to raid then organize it.

If you are not in a guild where they do any raiding, find a guild that does. We have 5 guild slots. Heck, as for normal raids you can organize them from your trade guild. It really is that simple. Even in another game that does actually have normal raids in GF, it rarely pops.

Even your comment that guilds run raids on strict schedules is not entirely correct. A raid guild runs scheduled raids and impromptu raids. How do you think the weekly leaderboard fills. Mostly impromptu raids.

Mostly what is missing in active guilds is someone to actually bother to get 12 people together (and in the right roles).

Be the solution.

Why be a solution for something that can be automated?

And guilds don't run the trial you need every night. Let's say you're farming Siroria right now. You want to get it over and done with asap. This is where group finder would be ideal. Rather than running the trial over 5 weeks with your guild (once a week, logging in on the exact day they do the trial you need), you could get it over and done with in a few days.

SBC

Peekachu99 wrote: »

I’d like a LFG interface instead, which lets you select and detail the kind of party/ people you want: casual, clear, hardcore completion, achievement farming, pledges. The social interface in this game is terrible and they’re making money hand over fist so there’s no excuse.

This would be where my vote goes. The way FFXIV has their group screen setup is quite nice. You can detail what you're looking for and who you need, and you can add and remove from there before you get inside. Jumping zone instances to find the last 2-3 you need can be quite annoying at times. I wouldn't want it setup like the dungeon finder is.

As for those saying vet would be terrible this way, the easiest solution to that is not to use it. For those that want the dice roll and headache at the chance to complete a pug vet trial, go for it.

Dymence

SBC wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

I’d like a LFG interface instead, which lets you select and detail the kind of party/ people you want: casual, clear, hardcore completion, achievement farming, pledges. The social interface in this game is terrible and they’re making money hand over fist so there’s no excuse.

This would be where my vote goes. The way FFXIV has their group screen setup is quite nice. You can detail what you're looking for and who you need, and you can add and remove from there before you get inside. Jumping zone instances to find the last 2-3 you need can be quite annoying at times. I wouldn't want it setup like the dungeon finder is.

As for those saying vet would be terrible this way, the easiest solution to that is not to use it. For those that want the dice roll and headache at the chance to complete a pug vet trial, go for it.

If there would be a vet trial finder, they should at least cap it to a certain amount of CP like they did with the vet DLC dungeons now. I don't think that'll be enough to ensure good runs, but it would be something.

exiars10

For NORMAL trials, absolutely yes.

Jaimeh

I would definitely use such a feature for normal trial farming ang generally getting more familiar with new trials. I'm trying to get some gear from HOF and been haveing no luck recruting from zone, so having a dedicated finder would be really helpful.

Silver_Strider

There used to be one way back in the day but no one used it because most trials where redundant (or because it was bugged and didn't always work, much like group finder for the longest time).

Don't see the harm in reintroducing it now though. Most normal trials can be pugged very easily.

Tasear

At one point, it became to tiresome to gather people. Takes anywhere from 15 mins to hour get 12 people. I just sit in craglorn and sort my bag out.

I wouldn't have any issues leading them, just getting warm bodies is a long and tideous process when I rather have fun.

Osteos

Yes please

CyberSkooma

I reaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy don't know how I feel about this.

I guess, they could add it. But I would absolutely never use it. Running trials with a full PUG team sounds absolutely horrible.

N2woR

No thanks, running dungeons with 3 people who don’t know mechanics is bad enough. You get lucky sometimes but imagine trying to get 11 players luck....

brimstone74

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

idk wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

idk wrote: »

We have trial finder. It is called a guild.

Granted, craglorn normal trials could work in GF. vMoL and vHoF will probably often be a train wreck. Vet versions is an absolute perfect storm and should never be part of GF>

Zos could put forward rewards for grouping for a random normal trial but that would just mean the guilds will use it if they want the reward.

Guilds don't run trials every night, they have a set schedule. If you can't make that schedule, you're SOL.

There are guild that run trials most every day. Even outside of that I have been in guilds that raid 4-5 nights a week.

If you are in an active guild and want to raid then organize it.

If you are not in a guild where they do any raiding, find a guild that does. We have 5 guild slots. Heck, as for normal raids you can organize them from your trade guild. It really is that simple. Even in another game that does actually have normal raids in GF, it rarely pops.

Even your comment that guilds run raids on strict schedules is not entirely correct. A raid guild runs scheduled raids and impromptu raids. How do you think the weekly leaderboard fills. Mostly impromptu raids.

Mostly what is missing in active guilds is someone to actually bother to get 12 people together (and in the right roles).

Be the solution.

Why be a solution for something that can be automated?

And guilds don't run the trial you need every night. Let's say you're farming Siroria right now. You want to get it over and done with asap. This is where group finder would be ideal. Rather than running the trial over 5 weeks with your guild (once a week, logging in on the exact day they do the trial you need), you could get it over and done with in a few days.

Agreed. Guilds are an antiquated way to drive group play for non-hard core content for MMOs in general. We already have a feature for this. It's not a crazy ask to expand upon it. On top of that, if the concern is the erosion of the social network in the game, that is a misnomer. Often features of this type foster interactions and social bonds that would not otherwise have occurred, even beyond an individual's current guild's scope.

IwakuraLain42

SBC wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

I’d like a LFG interface instead, which lets you select and detail the kind of party/ people you want: casual, clear, hardcore completion, achievement farming, pledges. The social interface in this game is terrible and they’re making money hand over fist so there’s no excuse.

This would be where my vote goes. The way FFXIV has their group screen setup is quite nice. You can detail what you're looking for and who you need, and you can add and remove from there before you get inside. Jumping zone instances to find the last 2-3 you need can be quite annoying at times. I wouldn't want it setup like the dungeon finder is.

As for those saying vet would be terrible this way, the easiest solution to that is not to use it. For those that want the dice roll and headache at the chance to complete a pug vet trial, go for it.

FF14 does this slightly different: you have the Duty Finder (that is equivalent to our Activity Finder) that you can use for normal Raids and the Party Finder (that is what you described) that is used to create general groups.
The last one is used for their equivalent of the Vet Trials.

But then again that game has a strict role structure, you can't cheat healer/tank roles there.

SBC

IwakuraLain42 wrote: »

SBC wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

I’d like a LFG interface instead, which lets you select and detail the kind of party/ people you want: casual, clear, hardcore completion, achievement farming, pledges. The social interface in this game is terrible and they’re making money hand over fist so there’s no excuse.

This would be where my vote goes. The way FFXIV has their group screen setup is quite nice. You can detail what you're looking for and who you need, and you can add and remove from there before you get inside. Jumping zone instances to find the last 2-3 you need can be quite annoying at times. I wouldn't want it setup like the dungeon finder is.

As for those saying vet would be terrible this way, the easiest solution to that is not to use it. For those that want the dice roll and headache at the chance to complete a pug vet trial, go for it.

FF14 does this slightly different: you have the Duty Finder (that is equivalent to our Activity Finder) that you can use for normal Raids and the Party Finder (that is what you described) that is used to create general groups.
The last one is used for their equivalent of the Vet Trials.

But then again that game has a strict role structure, you can't cheat healer/tank roles there.

Ya you're right, I didn't consider people cheating their roles. However, in all the pugs I've run for normal, no one ever lies about their role like with DF. I've also found it never makes much of a difference. Normal trials are pretty face roll.

If you're running vets you probably already have a trial guild anyway.