Should I start playing again?

mihaiisraging

Hello guys (and ladies),

I was wandering if someone could enlighten me with what I missed since oct-nov (I think). I stopped playing eso after clockwork's city launch.
I have arround 870 CP and 3000h on my khajiit nb. I not really thinking on changing my main since I also have like 25k achievs (? maybe a little more), mastercrafter, former emp, vmol speed run, no death vma and so on.

I will list my questions below. If anyone is willing to answer at any of them, he/she would make a honest khajiit very happy.

1. Is stam nb still viable in pvp? What about pve? Is magnb better? If yes what are the DPS differencies in pve that an experienced nb would pull in a trial with a team having all perfect sets?

2. What did I miss? A DLC with 2 dungeons I guess? How hard/easy is it?

3. Did they nerfed/changed any trial? Did they nerf or made OP any class?

4. Are master/maelstorm weapons good at anything nowadays?

5. Is bow/bow viable? How much worse is it than dw/bow?

6. Did they add remodel (transmog) for uncraftable items?

7. What the heck is Sheogorath corner? Is it a solo arena?

8. Are BGS any better? How is cyro nowadays? Best campaign?

9. How is summerset?
Jewelcrafting is any good or useless because the best items are dropable?
Is the new skill line any good? What are the rifts?

10. Is there anything else that I missed and I didn't ask about?

Thank you for your time fellow adventureres!

Yours with paws,
Not Santie Claws

phaneub17_ESO

Since the game doesn't require a subscription to play, what stops you from jumping on every once in a while unless you got a really ***-poor connection.

SydneyGrey

I'm too tired right now to answer all your questions, BUT ...
Summerset is awesome. I highly recommend it.

And the biggest change that's happened since Clockwork just came with the Summerset patch. All two-handed weapons (staves, 2H, bows) now count as two pieces of an armor set. This means a DPS boost to any magicka-using characters, because they can now for the first time use three full armor sets: one 2-piece monster set and two 5-piece sets.

nihirisutou

Sheagorath's corner?

Did you look at Alcast's website? It's his section for unorthodox, fun or theme builds.

TheValar85

In pve? definetly in PVP? No at all.

mihaiisraging

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I'm too tired right now to answer all your questions, BUT ...
Summerset is awesome. I highly recommend it.

And the biggest change that's happened since Clockwork just came with the Summerset patch. All two-handed weapons (staves, 2H, bows) now count as two pieces of an armor set. This means a DPS boost to any magicka-using characters, because they can now for the first time use three full armor sets: one 2-piece monster set and two 5-piece sets.

That is nice! Theorycraft on breakfast, lunch and dinner again!

Narvuntien

1. Is stam nb still viable in pvp? What about pve? Is magnb better? If yes what are the DPS differencies in pve that an experienced nb would pull in a trial with a team having all perfect sets?

StamNb is the best Stamina class in PVE and the power of cloak in PVP is undeniable. DPS is 55K ish for the best players even solo on a dummy. I pull 17K on my PVP specced NB (slotting PVE skills) so I suspect I could get 20K easily with better gear also I have 300 ping.

2.What did I miss? A DLC with 2 dungeons I guess? How hard/easy is it?
Well outfits you missed outfits. But some more difficult DLC dungeons although there are a bunch of 1 shot mechanics and things. normal mode was as easy as ever. The Monster set Zaan is extremely strong.

3. Did they nerfed/changed any trial? Did they nerf or made OP any class?
MagNB are "OP",they buffed all magicka light attacks. They nerfed off balance/lightning staves and the NMG and Sunderflame sets greatly weakening Stam DPS.

4. Are master/maelstorm weapons good at anything nowadays?
Maelstrom staff and bows for back bar. Master Resto. Master bow in PVP.

5. Is bow/bow viable? How much worse is it than dw/bow?
You can complete dungeons, but you have 35K dps instead of that 55K

6. Did they add remodel (transmog) for uncraftable items?
Yep outfits, but its just a overlay of your gear, your gear doesn't actually change.

7. What the heck is Sheogorath corner? Is it a solo arena?
I have never heard of it.

8. Are BGS any better? How is cyro nowadays? Best campaign?
Its back to No CP, which Is better. Cyro is cyro, zergs a plenty.

9. How is summerset?
Jewelcrafting is any good or useless because the best items are dropable?
Is the new skill line any good? What are the rifts?

The new skill line is actually pretty good. Its good for classes without spammables and meditate for tanks. Plus a nice AoE Stun for PVP.

You can upgrade jewerelly with crafting, the traits and trait transmutation is really good as well. Bloodthirsty, Trirune for tanks and Infused for Stam DPS. And transmuting healthy sets to robust/infused is amazing. There are a few crafted sets you might use together. Juli + mechanical acuity and Hist bark + Tava's.

The problem with summerset is both jewerelly crafting and Psijic order stuff is that they are a big grind and its going to take a long and mostly boring time until you max them. The rifts are like spell books but for psijic order you find them around when you are exploring they have random enchanting things in them.

10. Is there anything else that I missed and I didn't ask about?

THEDKEXPERIENCE

TheValar85 wrote: »

In pve? definetly in PVP? No at all.

I laugh at this. I took a year off and came back 2 days ago. I’m actually short of the CP cap at 701 and in gear from 12 months ago. I had no issue with PVP at all.

If you know how to PVP you’ll be fine even if you’re not in uber meta gear. It’s not that difficult.

mihaiisraging

Narvuntien wrote: »

1. Is stam nb still viable in pvp? What about pve? Is magnb better? If yes what are the DPS differencies in pve that an experienced nb would pull in a trial with a team having all perfect sets?

StamNb is the best Stamina class in PVE and the power of cloak in PVP is undeniable. DPS is 55K ish for the best players even solo on a dummy. I pull 17K on my PVP specced NB (slotting PVE skills) so I suspect I could get 20K easily with better gear also I have 300 ping.

2.What did I miss? A DLC with 2 dungeons I guess? How hard/easy is it?
Well outfits you missed outfits. But some more difficult DLC dungeons although there are a bunch of 1 shot mechanics and things. normal mode was as easy as ever. The Monster set Zaan is extremely strong.

3. Did they nerfed/changed any trial? Did they nerf or made OP any class?
MagNB are "OP",they buffed all magicka light attacks. They nerfed off balance/lightning staves and the NMG and Sunderflame sets greatly weakening Stam DPS.

4. Are master/maelstorm weapons good at anything nowadays?
Maelstrom staff and bows for back bar. Master Resto. Master bow in PVP.

5. Is bow/bow viable? How much worse is it than dw/bow?
You can complete dungeons, but you have 35K dps instead of that 55K

6. Did they add remodel (transmog) for uncraftable items?
Yep outfits, but its just a overlay of your gear, your gear doesn't actually change.

7. What the heck is Sheogorath corner? Is it a solo arena?
I have never heard of it.

8. Are BGS any better? How is cyro nowadays? Best campaign?
Its back to No CP, which Is better. Cyro is cyro, zergs a plenty.

9. How is summerset?
Jewelcrafting is any good or useless because the best items are dropable?
Is the new skill line any good? What are the rifts?

The new skill line is actually pretty good. Its good for classes without spammables and meditate for tanks. Plus a nice AoE Stun for PVP.

You can upgrade jewerelly with crafting, the traits and trait transmutation is really good as well. Bloodthirsty, Trirune for tanks and Infused for Stam DPS. And transmuting healthy sets to robust/infused is amazing. There are a few crafted sets you might use together. Juli + mechanical acuity and Hist bark + Tava's.

The problem with summerset is both jewerelly crafting and Psijic order stuff is that they are a big grind and its going to take a long and mostly boring time until you max them. The rifts are like spell books but for psijic order you find them around when you are exploring they have random enchanting things in them.

10. Is there anything else that I missed and I didn't ask about?

Thank you so much! You did a great help to this khajiit! I will defentely start playing again and I will have to check the new outifts.

Bow/bow will remain a plan for pvp maybe as it might work in no CP BGS.

I realised what Sheogorath's corner is. It is alcast's ideea of having fun in raids.

All in all, everything sounds nice, but the jewelcrafting looks a bit as a failure since the best sets are still dropable, not craftable.
Thank you again!

Getern

mihaiisraging wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

1. Is stam nb still viable in pvp? What about pve? Is magnb better? If yes what are the DPS differencies in pve that an experienced nb would pull in a trial with a team having all perfect sets?

StamNb is the best Stamina class in PVE and the power of cloak in PVP is undeniable. DPS is 55K ish for the best players even solo on a dummy. I pull 17K on my PVP specced NB (slotting PVE skills) so I suspect I could get 20K easily with better gear also I have 300 ping.

2.What did I miss? A DLC with 2 dungeons I guess? How hard/easy is it?
Well outfits you missed outfits. But some more difficult DLC dungeons although there are a bunch of 1 shot mechanics and things. normal mode was as easy as ever. The Monster set Zaan is extremely strong.

3. Did they nerfed/changed any trial? Did they nerf or made OP any class?
MagNB are "OP",they buffed all magicka light attacks. They nerfed off balance/lightning staves and the NMG and Sunderflame sets greatly weakening Stam DPS.

4. Are master/maelstorm weapons good at anything nowadays?
Maelstrom staff and bows for back bar. Master Resto. Master bow in PVP.

5. Is bow/bow viable? How much worse is it than dw/bow?
You can complete dungeons, but you have 35K dps instead of that 55K

6. Did they add remodel (transmog) for uncraftable items?
Yep outfits, but its just a overlay of your gear, your gear doesn't actually change.

7. What the heck is Sheogorath corner? Is it a solo arena?
I have never heard of it.

8. Are BGS any better? How is cyro nowadays? Best campaign?
Its back to No CP, which Is better. Cyro is cyro, zergs a plenty.

9. How is summerset?
Jewelcrafting is any good or useless because the best items are dropable?
Is the new skill line any good? What are the rifts?

The new skill line is actually pretty good. Its good for classes without spammables and meditate for tanks. Plus a nice AoE Stun for PVP.

You can upgrade jewerelly with crafting, the traits and trait transmutation is really good as well. Bloodthirsty, Trirune for tanks and Infused for Stam DPS. And transmuting healthy sets to robust/infused is amazing. There are a few crafted sets you might use together. Juli + mechanical acuity and Hist bark + Tava's.

The problem with summerset is both jewerelly crafting and Psijic order stuff is that they are a big grind and its going to take a long and mostly boring time until you max them. The rifts are like spell books but for psijic order you find them around when you are exploring they have random enchanting things in them.

10. Is there anything else that I missed and I didn't ask about?

Thank you so much! You did a great help to this khajiit! I will defentely start playing again and I will have to check the new outifts.

Bow/bow will remain a plan for pvp maybe as it might work in no CP BGS.

I realised what Sheogorath's corner is. It is alcast's ideea of having fun in raids.

All in all, everything sounds nice, but the jewelcrafting looks a bit as a failure since the best sets are still dropable, not craftable.
Thank you again!

I am kind of dissapointed with ur statment, Its not like I am saying get lost. But hey, with those achievments u posted u seem like a guy who knows whats up. I dont have great news tho. Game in current state is garbage balance wise and still without rewarding for skillful plays. How did u manage to play till Clockwork, its quite an achievment to begin with. To give u idea, I am not playing since Homestead. Point is Zenimax pushes crap even further what puts game into even worse state.
Why am I here posting this? Thats what I consider to be a good deed, to keep decent players away from the game.

mihaiisraging

Getern wrote: »

mihaiisraging wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

1. Is stam nb still viable in pvp? What about pve? Is magnb better? If yes what are the DPS differencies in pve that an experienced nb would pull in a trial with a team having all perfect sets?

StamNb is the best Stamina class in PVE and the power of cloak in PVP is undeniable. DPS is 55K ish for the best players even solo on a dummy. I pull 17K on my PVP specced NB (slotting PVE skills) so I suspect I could get 20K easily with better gear also I have 300 ping.

2.What did I miss? A DLC with 2 dungeons I guess? How hard/easy is it?
Well outfits you missed outfits. But some more difficult DLC dungeons although there are a bunch of 1 shot mechanics and things. normal mode was as easy as ever. The Monster set Zaan is extremely strong.

3. Did they nerfed/changed any trial? Did they nerf or made OP any class?
MagNB are "OP",they buffed all magicka light attacks. They nerfed off balance/lightning staves and the NMG and Sunderflame sets greatly weakening Stam DPS.

4. Are master/maelstorm weapons good at anything nowadays?
Maelstrom staff and bows for back bar. Master Resto. Master bow in PVP.

5. Is bow/bow viable? How much worse is it than dw/bow?
You can complete dungeons, but you have 35K dps instead of that 55K

6. Did they add remodel (transmog) for uncraftable items?
Yep outfits, but its just a overlay of your gear, your gear doesn't actually change.

7. What the heck is Sheogorath corner? Is it a solo arena?
I have never heard of it.

8. Are BGS any better? How is cyro nowadays? Best campaign?
Its back to No CP, which Is better. Cyro is cyro, zergs a plenty.

9. How is summerset?
Jewelcrafting is any good or useless because the best items are dropable?
Is the new skill line any good? What are the rifts?

The new skill line is actually pretty good. Its good for classes without spammables and meditate for tanks. Plus a nice AoE Stun for PVP.

You can upgrade jewerelly with crafting, the traits and trait transmutation is really good as well. Bloodthirsty, Trirune for tanks and Infused for Stam DPS. And transmuting healthy sets to robust/infused is amazing. There are a few crafted sets you might use together. Juli + mechanical acuity and Hist bark + Tava's.

The problem with summerset is both jewerelly crafting and Psijic order stuff is that they are a big grind and its going to take a long and mostly boring time until you max them. The rifts are like spell books but for psijic order you find them around when you are exploring they have random enchanting things in them.

10. Is there anything else that I missed and I didn't ask about?

Thank you so much! You did a great help to this khajiit! I will defentely start playing again and I will have to check the new outifts.

Bow/bow will remain a plan for pvp maybe as it might work in no CP BGS.

I realised what Sheogorath's corner is. It is alcast's ideea of having fun in raids.

All in all, everything sounds nice, but the jewelcrafting looks a bit as a failure since the best sets are still dropable, not craftable.
Thank you again!

I am kind of dissapointed with ur statment, Its not like I am saying get lost. But hey, with those achievments u posted u seem like a guy who knows whats up. I dont have great news tho. Game in current state is garbage balance wise and still without rewarding for skillful plays. How did u manage to play till Clockwork, its quite an achievment to begin with. To give u idea, I am not playing since Homestead. Point is Zenimax pushes crap even further what puts game into even worse state.
Why am I here posting this? Thats what I consider to be a good deed, to keep decent players away from the game.

Well, the thing is that I tried to find another MMO to play, but tbh I couldn't find any. I just hope that eso will keep me for some months.

The bad is that the game still needs some pvp improvements in my opinion and this might be the reason that I will stop eso when a better pvp wise mmorpg comes out.

Outfits are really cool though! Now I do not regret anymore buying all motifs )

Rygonix

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

TheValar85 wrote: »

In pve? definetly in PVP? No at all.

I laugh at this. I took a year off and came back 2 days ago. I’m actually short of the CP cap at 701 and in gear from 12 months ago. I had no issue with PVP at all.

If you know how to PVP you’ll be fine even if you’re not in uber meta gear. It’s not that difficult.

Pretty sure he was referring to the incredible lag, instability and the constant stream of glitches that occur on a daily basis in Cyrodiil. It's not fun knowing you could have won a fight if ZoS's servers weren't vintage last millennium hardware.

Waffennacht

Love me some BGs

idk

If you have to ask the forums then it would seem your interest is not there.

I will say jewelry crafting is only useful for changing traits. Very useless for actually crafting jewelry unless white or green is the gear level you want to use.