Are You satsfied with how PvP is performing ? (2018 edition)

IZZEFlameLash

No

BohnT wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

BohnT wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

Let me see: bugs, CHEATERS, macrousers, lag?

Of corse not!

Bugs? Yes
lags? oh hell yes
Cheaters? ***
Macrousers? You met a good player

I can disagree or this is a offense? Buddy, I am not a advocate of cheaters, much less of those who think that in the game this happens, I have my own opinion, alias, I can have opinions, right? I hope so!

No offence here

You can have opinions but you sounded like the typical zergling that followed the jumping sorc and died.
And people read the forums and see "cheaters" and then assume it's something that actually happens in game

Lol, what you said is accurate.

Anyways, the state of PvP has not really improved. It is still the same stuff. New things are just added to the mix to do the same old stuff again and again. It gets old. Same old CC bugs, lags, and what not. Same old AP farms... same old shite rewards. Meh.

BohnT

No

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Performance issues are more prominent since Summerset launch. Although you get better fps across the board, there's weird screen freezes and massive fps drops even in a very undemanding environment. One dev even suggested to disable multi core support in the user settings until these issues are resolved.

Also BGs which I thought would become more enjoyable, are imbalanced with certain sets grossly outperforming other stat based ones. Premades are still a thing which sucks. BGs aren't a lot of fun if you just want to queue in there without altering your cp setup and getting a min maxed team.

BGs are non CP again atm
But yes Cyrodiil is unplayable due to lag, freezes etc.
BGs are unplayable due to imbalances, Premades, broken queues etc.
And Duels are just meh with everyone running sloads or a oneshot sorc build/ per sorc

Juhasow

No

Iskras wrote: »

BohnT wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

Let me see: bugs, CHEATERS, macrousers, lag?

Of corse not!

Bugs? Yes
lags? oh hell yes
Cheaters? ***
Macrousers? You met a good player

I can disagree or this is a offense? Buddy, I am not a advocate of cheaters, much less of those who think that in the game this happens, I have my own opinion, alias, I can have opinions, right? I hope so!

As for cheaters I can partially agree. Not the cheat engine users but more like an exploiters that are abusing bugs for their own benefits. It was always the thing and it'll always be in every online game and to be fair atm ESO is not in the bad spot here and deals more or less decent with those kind of issues.

As for macro users this argument is getting more and more funny and I am supprised anyone can still think macros makes You any better at the game like ESO. Most of the people that clicks and do things fast plus perfectly weaves light attack between is just good players with sometimes not even any super fast but just decent reaction times. It's not like ESO requires super good reaction time. There are games where people react on things and click buttons perfectly in matter of miliseconds. In Fortnite for example good players can build up structures around themselves edit holes in them and shoot other player faster then sometimes it takes someone who watches the stream to understand what actually happened. In ESO global cooldown on abilities is ~0,9 second and no matter what You will do You wont use another ability before that time.

If You got killed by few damaging abilities from one player at the same time that means it was perfectly timed burst combo
and there is no macro that can help You with it. You just need to learn timing since every fight is different and You need to adapt and macro will always repeat the same procces so You could end up dying because of macro.

Compared to other games the 0,9 second time frame between using abilities is a lot of time and it doesnt require incredible amount of practice to master using abilities and weapon attacks perfectly in that interval.

Iskras

No

Juhasow wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

BohnT wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

Let me see: bugs, CHEATERS, macrousers, lag?

Of corse not!

Bugs? Yes
lags? oh hell yes
Cheaters? ***
Macrousers? You met a good player

I can disagree or this is a offense? Buddy, I am not a advocate of cheaters, much less of those who think that in the game this happens, I have my own opinion, alias, I can have opinions, right? I hope so!

As for cheaters I can partially agree. Not the cheat engine users but more like an exploiters that are abusing bugs for their own benefits. It was always the thing and it'll always be in every online game and to be fair atm ESO is not in the bad spot here and deals more or less decent with those kind of issues.

As for macro users this argument is getting more and more funny and I am supprised anyone can still think macros makes You any better at the game like ESO. Most of the people that clicks and do things fast plus perfectly weaves light attack between is just good players with sometimes not even any super fast but just decent reaction times. It's not like ESO requires super good reaction time. There are games where people react on things and click buttins perfectly in matter of miliseconds. In Fortnite for example good players can build up structures around themselves edit holes in them and shoot other player faster then sometimes it takes someone who watches the stream to understand what actually happened. In ESO global cooldown on abilities is ~0,9 second and no matter what You will do You wont use another ability before that time.

If You got killed by few damaging abilities from one player at the same time that means it was perfectly timed burst combo
and there is no macro that can help You with it. You just need to learn timing since every fight is different and You need to adapt and macro will always repeat the same procces so You could end up dying because of macro.

Compared to other games the 0,9 second time frame between using abilities is a lot of time and it doesnt require incredible amount of practice to master using abilities and weapon attacks perfectly in that interval.

When the connection help...(lag) some times, here, 2 secounds to execute a single skill -_-

Juhasow

No

Iskras wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

BohnT wrote: »

Iskras wrote: »

Let me see: bugs, CHEATERS, macrousers, lag?

Of corse not!

Bugs? Yes
lags? oh hell yes
Cheaters? ***
Macrousers? You met a good player

I can disagree or this is a offense? Buddy, I am not a advocate of cheaters, much less of those who think that in the game this happens, I have my own opinion, alias, I can have opinions, right? I hope so!

As for cheaters I can partially agree. Not the cheat engine users but more like an exploiters that are abusing bugs for their own benefits. It was always the thing and it'll always be in every online game and to be fair atm ESO is not in the bad spot here and deals more or less decent with those kind of issues.

As for macro users this argument is getting more and more funny and I am supprised anyone can still think macros makes You any better at the game like ESO. Most of the people that clicks and do things fast plus perfectly weaves light attack between is just good players with sometimes not even any super fast but just decent reaction times. It's not like ESO requires super good reaction time. There are games where people react on things and click buttins perfectly in matter of miliseconds. In Fortnite for example good players can build up structures around themselves edit holes in them and shoot other player faster then sometimes it takes someone who watches the stream to understand what actually happened. In ESO global cooldown on abilities is ~0,9 second and no matter what You will do You wont use another ability before that time.

If You got killed by few damaging abilities from one player at the same time that means it was perfectly timed burst combo
and there is no macro that can help You with it. You just need to learn timing since every fight is different and You need to adapt and macro will always repeat the same procces so You could end up dying because of macro.

Compared to other games the 0,9 second time frame between using abilities is a lot of time and it doesnt require incredible amount of practice to master using abilities and weapon attacks perfectly in that interval.

When the connection help...(lag) some times, here, 2 secounds to execute a single skill -_-

Lag is the worst thing for macro users in ESO. When game is lagging server start to sometimes count abilities not in the row You used them so You can just waste whole burst combo because of macro. Not even mentioning that sometimes You'll need fast go into defense but macro already used different ability so You need to wait for it and die in the meantime. I am not macro specialist since I never used one but I dont even know why people would have to use macro for PvP in ESO. It's not like game is hard or something and macro will make You a god. If You suck at the game macro wont save You if You're good at it You dont need macro.

montjie

No

I just want my triune jewelry but am too cheap to buy them.

Eirella

Yes

Well I would like to change my vote to "no" now.

Serjustin19

I'm just living a lie, in my own creation.

Gprime31

Yes because I can run sload, durok and zaan with resource poisons. Much fun, much skill ,best expirrence ever, and it works through the lag. 10/10 zos

IcyDeadPeople

with good CPU but lower end graphics card (i7-6700k + GTX 1060), I noticed significant improvement. Before I always played with medium texture and disabled shadows for Cyrodiil, but now I can play on max settings steady 60fps excluding large keep battles.

amir412

No

OK, few days into SummerSet experience, So far i think it became worse, things that never happend to me before:

* Game freezes
* Frames skipping
* Sload abusers
* Skills getting locked + auto sprtinting till stam is 0 then it released, happend 9 times today mid fight.
* Lag got worse
* High rank friends in BGS reporting queue of 40 minutes+


Just lol.

BohnT

No

amir412 wrote: »

OK, few days into SummerSet experience, So far i think it became worse, things that never happend to me before:

* Game freezes
* Frames skipping
* Sload abusers
* Skills getting locked + auto sprtinting till stam is 0 then it released, happend 9 times today mid fight.
* Lag got worse

Yes lag is horrible and freezes happen all the time, the game is really desynced as well. You'll get one shotted because you take multiple hits in one moment although you are them over a long period of time.

Sometimes you can solve the sprint lock by Pressing sprint again, it doesn't work all the time but 90% of the time it'll work

zyk

No

BohnT wrote: »

Sometimes you can solve the sprint lock by Pressing sprint again, it doesn't work all the time but 90% of the time it'll work

Yeah, but at least our outfits look great when we're lying dead! ZOS priorities....

ZarkingFrued

No

88% no. Get to work ZOS

Juhasow

No

After running whole last week in PvP I think I never disliked it that much like right now. I slowly come to realization that PvP is way beyond capabilities of Zenimax development to solve the issues with it. Instead of starting to fix issues and looking for solutions to makes things right they're just pushing stuff that makes things even worse... Summerset will be posibly one of the worst if not the worst update for PvP in this game history.

GlorphNoldorin

No

The performance always suffers around new patches but this has to be one of the worst. The game is unplayable for me on Oceanic ping at the best of times but this taking it to new levels. Combat bug, lag spikes from 300-700-999+, animations lagging, players rubber banding, crashing on entering delves, crashing in general, potions not working, cc not working.......could go on.

gabriebe

No

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Hitting 3-5 minutes loadscreen traveling between keeps. How is this supposed to be normal? We are paying for this game every month for crying out loud. The bare minimum should be that it works. My group is porting to keeps that are announced to be under siege and when we load in, we are already dead on flags. Fix this.

Like I know it's been pointed out before, but what will it take for you guys to take action? This is a broken game and it's entirely the fault of your performance teams. You wouldnt need to sell so much sparkly mounts if you could get a player base that doesnt rage every 5 minutes because of lag, crashes, load screens, and overall amateurism.

Vencenzo

No

I love ESO..
I think ESO has the best pvp of any rpg out there...

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When it works

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It's not working atm. I'm spending half of my time reloging, with 8 fps, 900 latency, or getting HP desynced to death/killing non responsive players.

amir412

No

At this point i think one day ZOS will decale that they are removing cyrodill from the game.

Lucky28

No

Not really. i understand ZOS wanting to bring in new players, however they've been screwing their hardcore playerbase in the process. Players don't take PvP seriously anymore, they don't really try and challenge themselves like they used to... just Zerg.

I dunno. Morrowind pretty much killed hardcore PvP in ESO. and now @ZOS_Wrobel is setting his sights on destroying class identity as well, so yeah. I mean since summerset launched i haven't used Strife once PvP or PvE.... my classes signature ability and it's not even on my bar, *** stupid.

Vaoh

No

This thread reminds me a lot of the AoE Caps poll, where it’s essentially the players vs the Devs. Players didn’t want AoE Caps, but ZOS added them in anyway and their PvP was never the same

Here I see what should be obvious - PvP these days is an absolute disgrace to what it once was. Will ZOS make changes by listening to feedback from their players? Probably not tbh.

I’m glad that BGs is still a fun experience most of the time. Without that I would have zero incentive to PvP.

Juhasow

No

Vaoh wrote: »

This thread reminds me a lot of the AoE Caps poll, where it’s essentially the players vs the Devs. Players didn’t want AoE Caps, but ZOS added them in anyway and their PvP was never the same

Here I see what should be obvious - PvP these days is an absolute disgrace to what it once was. Will ZOS make changes by listening to feedback from their players? Probably not tbh.

I’m glad that BGs is still a fun experience most of the time. Without that I would have zero incentive to PvP.

We definietly are playing on different servers because on PC EU battlegrounds were never in good shape but since Summerset release it's getting worse with every day.

Azramel

No

I don't have any issues with update changes exactly, although I will say some stuff needs rebalance imo like zaan (op cheese on magblade).

What made me answer no is performance issues. The constant random load screens all over cyrodil have been super annoying. The other thing is I get random fps dips to 10-20 fps for a few seconds. Not sure if thats directly related to summerset tho because it started 2 days before summerset early access after I downloaded a couple windows 10 updates.

Then ofc there are bugs which need to be addressed. I'm just patiently waiting on a lot of this to hopefully get worked on.

Edziu

No

Juhasow wrote: »

Eirella wrote: »

I have to agree with @Sharee . It's not really a simple yes or no, but I guess for the most part PVP isn't too bad. The classes are pretty fairly balanced, proc sets aren't out of hand like they have been in the past. It certainly isn't perfect (imo), but it's okay.

Hmm I actually think completly different that class balance sucks and proc sets are out of hand. That is just my opinion though.

class balance? it isnt that bad as was before, proc sets are out off balance
stamblade is easy cancer mode with proc sets and dot build, take away from him every proc setand he wont be that big problem..especialy without dot build it will be even easier opponent to win with him

just take away proc sets from everyone and you will see how is truly performing balance becasue as for now everything is spoiled by proc sets and some classes are that much depending on them as some cant even play without proc set or other is really big cancer with addition of proc sets to this

so 1st off take away proc sets and then we can start talking about balance

Yuke

No

Sload is BS, Rune Cage is BS, Zaan is BS, Performance is a bit better now but still BS and Stamblade burst got out of control with 2h weapon changes.

Thats a nope i guess.

Lucky28

No

Yuke wrote: »

Sload is BS, Rune Cage is BS, Zaan is BS, Performance is a bit better now but still BS and Stamblade burst got out of control with 2h weapon changes.

Thats a nope i guess.

When you're talking about nightblade you have to make sure to specify that you're talking about Magicka nightblade. you say "stamblade" Wrobel will nerf magblade so maybe the opposite is also true.

Soris

No

PvP have never been worse since launch. Not enjoyable anymore for me. Proc sets, unmitigated damages, poisons, more xv1 options, bigger zergs, op premade groups literally facerolling everything, toxic players with op builds, immature rude kids(!) since no subs.... i can go on.

Yuke

No

Lucky28 wrote: »

Yuke wrote: »

Sload is BS, Rune Cage is BS, Zaan is BS, Performance is a bit better now but still BS and Stamblade burst got out of control with 2h weapon changes.

Thats a nope i guess.

When you're talking about nightblade you have to make sure to specify that you're talking about Magicka nightblade. you say "stamblade" Wrobel will nerf magblade so maybe the opposite is also true.

Im ok with magblades tbh. They deserved to get a viable burst ability with the changes to Assa Will. Zaan and Caluurion or Duroks on top of it makes me mad, but thats not a Class issue. The Burst-Damage on stamblade with certain set combinations on the other hand is completly broken imho. People here are running 26k+ hp to avoid getting killed with half a rotation.

thankyourat

Yes

I happy with the overall game. I'm disappointed in the player base at the moment though. The amount of cowardice in game is at an all time high. I would say over 80% of the player base will not engage you if they are alone or if they don't have help from the resource guards. I'm just tired of players running away from me. Why ride your horse to a fight when you can fight me right now. This mentality is getting worse to where it's starting to effect overall gameplay. Zerging is at an all time high and this is killing the servers. There needs to be a way to split these players up. I'm fine with 24 man groups. It becomes a problem when an alliance starts bringing 2 or 3 full groups to one keep

Juhasow

No

thankyourat wrote: »

I happy with the overall game. I'm disappointed in the player base at the moment though. The amount of cowardice in game is at an all time high. I would say over 80% of the player base will not engage you if they are alone or if they don't have help from the resource guards. I'm just tired of players running away from me. Why ride your horse to a fight when you can fight me right now. This mentality is getting worse to where it's starting to effect overall gameplay. Zerging is at an all time high and this is killing the servers. There needs to be a way to split these players up. I'm fine with 24 man groups. It becomes a problem when an alliance starts bringing 2 or 3 full groups to one keep

Atm there is 1 bar for each alliance on Shor PC EU and server performance sucks and abilities are not firing off. I dont think it's zerging connected in this update. Zergs just makes things worse but definietly something else is also going on. Using abilities was never that clunky.

As for cowardice yeah this issue is growing with time. It's partially development fault because the're creating enviroment where zerging is waaay more beneficial and forgiving then running in smalscale or solo and lets be honest if something is clear adventage people will just follow it without looking at morality of their choices.