Stealth is broken...again

davey1107

character pop out of sneak in PvP randomly, stealth potions are consuming the potion with no stealth benefit (yes I know how to use them) and random things are triggering a stealth exposure...like at the end of an invisibility potion the character is standing up for a second then gong into sneak, which is amazingly awesome.

But why bother? I mean, is stealth more important than the 300 other things that are broken in PvP right now? Let’s put it on the list, so you can fast track it for next year’s chapter release, at which time you’ll bypass fixing it so that you can add some stupid feature to soul harvest that no one asked for.

Kram8ion

Ohh soul harvest?, I was looking forward to the trapping webs buff

Beamer_Miasma

Stealth is borked atm, not just in PvP, it's just as broken in PvE. I frequently get into a loop of the eye constantly opening again as soon as it's closed, without any possible observer nearby (it even happens indoors in empty rooms). It's like I'm being followed by an invisible mudcrab, terribly annoying. This was an occasional issue before, but since a few weeks or so it happens several times an hour and the only way to break out of the loop is to unhide and hide again, which isn't always an option.

Another issue is that NPCs who are far outside witness range will witness a murder if they have unobstructed line of sight. It doesn't seem to matter at all how far away they are, as long as they are rezzed and looking in your direction when you commit the murder, you're busted. Seems to me there is a serious issue with distance checks in stealth atm.

Nymre

As a nightblade, where Shadow is 1/3 of my skill set, it's a real pain. I get stealth isn't as high a priority as other functionalities but when an entire class is being brought down I think that's a problem.

WitchyWarrior

I had a feeling it was. In PvP since summerset, I am constantly seeing enemy players that are crouched just randomly appear. There is no one else around me so no magelight or anything popping them out of steath. The weird part is I don't know if they know they can be seen. They continue to be crouched and "sneaking" in the same direction...I mean, usually if your unstealthed You try to stealth again or get out of the area quickly. Nope.
It has been pretty noticable to me & I don't notice a lot of things very often.

davey1107

@WitchyWarrior

Yes, we stealth players know it, lol. What is happening a lot is that something is kicking off the stealth for no reason...either for a second, or for longer periods.

Sometimes you see the eye open and close in a half second, telling you that your location flashed to everyone but you went back into sneak. (And I can verify that many times there is 100% absolutely no reason the character got kicked from stealth. This happens in the middle of nowhere, with no other players around too).

Other times the character is kicked from sneak, but still in crouch, and the system does know tomtransition you back to sneak. I’ve seen enemy players just crouching along a field and never going back to sneak for no reason.

Nightblades get a bit of an advantage (aside from the massive disadvantage of having a core function not work) Cloak allows a NB to hard enter stealth, so if I pop out I can get back into sneak quickly...albeit with a waste of resources and still having been exposed.

Gilvoth

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Nymre

I figured out what the problem is. If you have Dark Cloak, the recent update turned it into a healing ability, not an invisibility one. Reset your morphs and change it to Shadowy Disguise.

Feanor

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

it is very frustrating and hard to deal with.
i wish there stealth and sneaking and invisibility was a toggle instead of cast.

That will never happen hopefully as it would be way too powerful.

Bergzorn

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

it is very frustrating and hard to deal with.
i wish there stealth and sneaking and invisibility was a toggle instead of cast.

Stealth and sneaking (the standard one, not cloak) is a toggle. Or do you mean, once activated, it should be unbreakable?

burglar

I've always had the feeling that stealth classes just aren't liked all that much by the devs.

I'd like for one morph of cloak to be a sort of enhancement to sneaking, where instead of direct invisiblity for 3 seconds, it forces you into sneak with dramatic bonuses to detection radius reduction while slotted. That way it functions like a toggle and can be effectively used by both stam and magicka classes.

merevie

Somehow got x5 mage's wrath applied in a row while cloaked (and showing as in stealth still) and running over a wide, wide area. Either ep have a new special keybind ability I don't know about or cloak is dead. This was combined with the new record of 26 failed R presses for ult while standing at a breach... at least nothing was freezing up? Just non-functional.

Lexxypwns

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=65875

Here’s a no-stealth mageblade build for you guys. If devs won’t fix it just play around not having it.