Are rune nodes now all red?

startstriker

I’ve been away from the game for a while and only came back in the last two weeks and so far all the rune nodes now show a red lightning instead of the blue and yellow ones at least in the early areas but I’m sure this wasn’t always the case just wondered when/why this happened?

Merenwen_812

YES, sorrowfully they made them all red
Edit to add: I don't know when as I took a small break and when I returned the change was in game

Jhalin

I prefer it like this because the nodes drop multiple runes. Way easier than hunting around for specific colors.

startstriker

Merenwen_812 wrote: »

YES, sorrowfully they made them all red
Edit to add: I don't know when as I took a small break and when I returned the change was in game

That’s such a odd change and for no reason I always felt it added to the landscape seeing the mystical glowing colours and die having one hue is a shame

starkerealm

Yeah, I forget exactly when this change was made, but it was an overhaul to runes so that you'd get a mix of them out each node. In part to deal with farmers who would only grab the red nodes looking for kutas, and abandon the others (as I recall).

startstriker

Jhalin wrote: »

I prefer it like this because the nodes drop multiple runes. Way easier than hunting around for specific colors.

That’s fair enough still I feel they could of done it without changing them all to red.

driosketch

They are all red, and now have a chance to drop multiple runes of any type.

AlnilamE

I think they changed it with One Tamriel.

Now a rune node will always drop a potency rune (used to be blue), an essence rune (used to be green) and sometimes an aspect rune (used to be orange/red).

I personally prefereed the blue/purple glow of potency runes, but that was easily confused with thieves' troves, so I can understand why they didn't pick that one.

Elsonso

starkerealm wrote: »

Yeah, I forget exactly when this change was made, but it was an overhaul to runes so that you'd get a mix of them out each node. In part to deal with farmers who would only grab the red nodes looking for kutas, and abandon the others (as I recall).

It was part of an effort to place Potency runes behind a gold sink.

Beardimus

I agree wish they hadnt done this. The excitement of the aspect rune and what it would be etc

Jhalin

lordrichter wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Yeah, I forget exactly when this change was made, but it was an overhaul to runes so that you'd get a mix of them out each node. In part to deal with farmers who would only grab the red nodes looking for kutas, and abandon the others (as I recall).

It was part of an effort to place Potency runes behind a gold sink.

?? What gold sink?

idk

startstriker wrote: »

Merenwen_812 wrote: »

YES, sorrowfully they made them all red
Edit to add: I don't know when as I took a small break and when I returned the change was in game

That’s such a odd change and for no reason I always felt it added to the landscape seeing the mystical glowing colours and die having one hue is a shame

and it enhanced gathering significantly. Most just gathered the aspect Rune and left skipped the rest essentially cutting the available nodes by two thirds. Our bags were full of potency and essence runes.

It was a great change.

starkerealm

lordrichter wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Yeah, I forget exactly when this change was made, but it was an overhaul to runes so that you'd get a mix of them out each node. In part to deal with farmers who would only grab the red nodes looking for kutas, and abandon the others (as I recall).

It was part of an effort to place Potency runes behind a gold sink.

*snorts*

Sorta, kinda, not really.

But, yeah, that might have been the goal.

startstriker

I wonder if they’d consider changing the colour again but allowing them to drop the same resources wouldn’t effect anything then just a small cosmetic change.

MLGProPlayer

Beardimus wrote: »

I agree wish they hadnt done this. The excitement of the aspect rune and what it would be etc

It was a positive change as it forces people to not leave behind the node they don't want.

starkerealm

In fairness to @lordrichter, when the change first hit the PTS, there was a glitch that prevented potency runes from spawning. Meaning you needed to buy them from vendors. I don't think that was intentional, (if it was, I don't remember) but it was fixed before that change hit live.

DanteYoda

Other than cosmetic i prefer this change.

Beardimus

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

I agree wish they hadnt done this. The excitement of the aspect rune and what it would be etc

It was a positive change as it forces people to not leave behind the node they don't want.

Sorry i massively disagree.

Before i could target what i needed, and it added a degree of interest. Now its just a blank farm, and to be honest i run past most of them. Aspect before and id go out of my way in case it had a Kuta.

Once you have 100's if not 1000's of the other it becomes a bit dull.

Sure for farmers ease i can see why the change would appeal, but for gameplay / making it slightly less dull I much prefer how it was before. I'd go back in an Instant.

Even 'those' writ surveys at the top of Craglorn that had an extra Aspect, just to be a nice touch.

I'm glad potency added to the NPC, handy when people need a certain one. BUt I much prefer the old system. It's dull now, they might as well just mail then or such like

jrgray93

I wish they'd just have the old two colors back as a purely cosmetic thing. The "new" system is vastly superior, but the color variety was more interesting.

kip_silverwolf

The change to the rune nodes happened way back with the release of Dark Brotherhood, same time as poisons became available, ESO+ received the craft bag and the removal of vet ranks.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/261799/pts-patch-notes-v2-4-0/p1

Originally it was to be that potency runes couldn't be harvested, only being obtainable by deconning or purchased from the vendor. However players picked up their pitchforks and descended upon the forums in an angry mob, resulting in potency runes being harvestable.

driosketch

Beardimus wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

I agree wish they hadnt done this. The excitement of the aspect rune and what it would be etc

It was a positive change as it forces people to not leave behind the node they don't want.

Sorry i massively disagree.

Before i could target what i needed, and it added a degree of interest. Now its just a blank farm, and to be honest i run past most of them. Aspect before and id go out of my way in case it had a Kuta.

Once you have 100's if not 1000's of the other it becomes a bit dull.

See, that was part of the problem. Like that Simpsons joke where Homer keeps opening the Neapolitan ice cream boxes only to find the chocolate stripe competely gone. Players were grabbing just the red runes. That's also probably why all nodes are red now, to play off that player conditioning.

Mureel

^ this. People who just scanned for red instead of the rest were the reason it was changed.

Would be loltastic if they changed flower nodes to the same system xD like you get a pretty coloured flower, there are many colours, but it is random what you actually harvest xD

Elsonso

Jhalin wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Yeah, I forget exactly when this change was made, but it was an overhaul to runes so that you'd get a mix of them out each node. In part to deal with farmers who would only grab the red nodes looking for kutas, and abandon the others (as I recall).

It was part of an effort to place Potency runes behind a gold sink.

?? What gold sink?

When they first rolled this out on PTS, Potency runes were not dropped. The only way to get new Potency rune was to buy them from a vendor or get one from deconstruction.

As I recall, but do not find a reference (might have been on ESO Live), this was to address problems with players having the runes needed to level the skill. This made Potency more accessible to players who needed them, rather than running around farming them, but also put a gold sink in place. I think the gold sink was a major goal for this.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2909368/#Comment_2909368

Enchanting Improvements
We’ve implemented a number of changes and improvements to Enchanting:
Enchantment glyphs no longer have an upper limit on the equipment they can be applied to. This means a lower level enchantment can now be applied to a higher level piece of gear.
All harvestable runestones will now provide at least one Essence and Aspect runestone per harvest.
Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Before PTS ended, they agreed to drop Potency runes, but not every time. If they were just looking to make them easier to come by, they would have made them drop all the time. By doing it this way, they kept the gold sink in place for the people who did not want to farm.