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magblade pve sets that arent from trials

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MrDenimChicken
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Can anyone give me a good build to use for magblade that doesn't involve trials sets?

I'm currently just using Julianos/willpower/valk...but I feel like there could be a way better set combo that doesn't involve trials sets.
  • Nestor
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    If you run Shades, Necropetence, Julianos, Molag Kena

    I run Julianos, Mother's Sorrow and one Molag Kena, my crits are in the 80% range.

    For a More Yolo approach, Rattle Cage Chest, Legs and Jewelry, Julianos, Molag.

    Withered Hand is kind of RP for a NB, of course with Julianos/Kena

    I know I keep mentioning Julianos, but every time I equip another 5 piece set, all I have done is move numbers around. The one I mix with it on the other hand, that has a huge effect. And, until Summerset, one piece Molag Kena is your best choice unless you Front/Back bar.
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  • MrDenimChicken
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    Nestor wrote: »
    If you run Shades, Necropetence, Julianos, Molag Kena

    I run Julianos, Mother's Sorrow and one Molag Kena, my crits are in the 80% range.

    For a More Yolo approach, Rattle Cage Chest, Legs and Jewelry, Julianos, Molag.

    Withered Hand is kind of RP for a NB, of course with Julianos/Kena

    I know I keep mentioning Julianos, but every time I equip another 5 piece set, all I have done is move numbers around. The one I mix with it on the other hand, that has a huge effect. And, until Summerset, one piece Molag Kena is your best choice unless you Front/Back bar.

    running shades for group dungeons? that seems like a waste of a skill spot just to get a +2k magicka buff. Does it increase DPS by that much?

    Also I've heard mechanical acuity is meta right now, but I'm wondering what would pair well with mechanical acuity (that isn't a trial set)
  • Camb0Sl1ce
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    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid
  • Datthaw
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    Warmaiden is pretty solid run that with juli and kena
  • MrDenimChicken
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    Camb0Sl1ce wrote: »
    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid

    does burning spellweave proc apply to any tic with destro fire blockade? or just after first cast? I'm wondering how often the proc is up, and if it would technically be more dmg than war maiden
    Edited by MrDenimChicken on May 11, 2018 1:24AM
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Camb0Sl1ce wrote: »
    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid

    does burning spellweave proc apply to any tic with destro fire blockade? or just after first cast? I'm wondering how often the proc is up

    it procs off of any fire attack so your light attacks, flame enchants, and blockade will all proc it.
  • Ectheliontnacil
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    5 burning spellweave, 5 mechanical acuity, 1 piece kena and vma inferno backbar is a very competitive setup. You can do pretty much anything with that. Once you get it, you can consider swapping out bsw for master architect.
  • Runefang
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    Ectheliontnacil wrote: »
    5 burning spellweave, 5 mechanical acuity, 1 piece kena and vma inferno backbar is a very competitive setup. You can do pretty much anything with that. Once you get it, you can consider swapping out bsw for master architect.

    This. BSW + Acuity + 1 piece is the best set up.

    Moondancer and Master Architect are the sets you want from trials. Moondancer for when you're forced to go ranged. Master Architect when you're able to go melee. Generally I only run those in trials though, in dungeons I prefer BSW anyway since its a bit more general purpose.
  • Runefang
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    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Camb0Sl1ce wrote: »
    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid

    does burning spellweave proc apply to any tic with destro fire blockade? or just after first cast? I'm wondering how often the proc is up

    it procs off of any fire attack so your light attacks, flame enchants, and blockade will all proc it.

    Yeah, with a double fire set up, fire enchant and blockade you should hit 60% uptime just fine.
  • MrDenimChicken
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    Datthaw wrote: »
    Warmaiden is pretty solid run that with juli and kena

    yeah i thought about that, but it doesn't affect a lot of
    Runefang wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Camb0Sl1ce wrote: »
    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid

    does burning spellweave proc apply to any tic with destro fire blockade? or just after first cast? I'm wondering how often the proc is up

    it procs off of any fire attack so your light attacks, flame enchants, and blockade will all proc it.

    Yeah, with a double fire set up, fire enchant and blockade you should hit 60% uptime just fine.

    wouldn't 60% uptime still be less total + dmg than warmaiden? .6 x 525 = 315, whereas war maiden just gives a flat + 400.
  • Narvuntien
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    I mean it is from a trial.. but you can just go buy it... Destruction Mastery.

    War maiden is only for magic damage and doesn't buff all your fire damage.
  • eso_lags
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    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    If you run Shades, Necropetence, Julianos, Molag Kena

    I run Julianos, Mother's Sorrow and one Molag Kena, my crits are in the 80% range.

    For a More Yolo approach, Rattle Cage Chest, Legs and Jewelry, Julianos, Molag.

    Withered Hand is kind of RP for a NB, of course with Julianos/Kena

    I know I keep mentioning Julianos, but every time I equip another 5 piece set, all I have done is move numbers around. The one I mix with it on the other hand, that has a huge effect. And, until Summerset, one piece Molag Kena is your best choice unless you Front/Back bar.

    running shades for group dungeons? that seems like a waste of a skill spot just to get a +2k magicka buff. Does it increase DPS by that much?

    Also I've heard mechanical acuity is meta right now, but I'm wondering what would pair well with mechanical acuity (that isn't a trial set)

    Yes it does if you're running necro. Ive always found that in pvp or pve, max mag is king. You can stack really high on a magblade and that equals bigger shields and more damage.

    Maybe mechanical acuity and necro? But all the sets nestor listed are good. I mean many things can work, its about rotation. 40k-50k max mag is a good spot. 2k MIN to 3k spell damage.. Maybe more with something like BSW.
  • Darlon
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    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Datthaw wrote: »
    Warmaiden is pretty solid run that with juli and kena

    yeah i thought about that, but it doesn't affect a lot of
    Runefang wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Camb0Sl1ce wrote: »
    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid

    does burning spellweave proc apply to any tic with destro fire blockade? or just after first cast? I'm wondering how often the proc is up

    it procs off of any fire attack so your light attacks, flame enchants, and blockade will all proc it.

    Yeah, with a double fire set up, fire enchant and blockade you should hit 60% uptime just fine.

    wouldn't 60% uptime still be less total + dmg than warmaiden? .6 x 525 = 315, whereas war maiden just gives a flat + 400.

    War maiden only gives +400 to magic damage abilities though, so it will have zero effect on your fire/elemental damage (wall of elements, fire enchant, etc etc)
    Edited by Darlon on May 11, 2018 6:19AM
  • PlagueSD
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    If you're going for a tank build, Livewire and Bahraha's Curse is what you want with S&B front and lightning staff back.

    The synergy between Livewire and lighning staff means everything around you will constantly be "off balance" and Bahraha's will help with heals and take less damage from AOE's.

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  • lardvader
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    Narvuntien wrote: »
    I mean it is from a trial.. but you can just go buy it... Destruction Mastery.

    War maiden is only for magic damage and doesn't buff all your fire damage.

    Yeah I will swap Willpower for Destruction Mastery next patch on my magBlade but that is a build only for farming vMA.

    Currently using Willpower/Julianos/Iceheart with random infused destro on both bars.
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  • SJD_Phoenix
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    Darlon wrote: »
    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Datthaw wrote: »
    Warmaiden is pretty solid run that with juli and kena

    yeah i thought about that, but it doesn't affect a lot of
    Runefang wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Camb0Sl1ce wrote: »
    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid

    does burning spellweave proc apply to any tic with destro fire blockade? or just after first cast? I'm wondering how often the proc is up

    it procs off of any fire attack so your light attacks, flame enchants, and blockade will all proc it.

    Yeah, with a double fire set up, fire enchant and blockade you should hit 60% uptime just fine.

    wouldn't 60% uptime still be less total + dmg than warmaiden? .6 x 525 = 315, whereas war maiden just gives a flat + 400.

    War maiden only gives +400 to magic damage abilities though, so it will have zero effect on your fire/elemental damage (wall of elements, fire enchant, etc etc)

    BSW will also be affected by Major Sorcery whereas War Maidens won’t.
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    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Datthaw wrote: »
    Warmaiden is pretty solid run that with juli and kena

    yeah i thought about that, but it doesn't affect a lot of
    Runefang wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Camb0Sl1ce wrote: »
    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid

    does burning spellweave proc apply to any tic with destro fire blockade? or just after first cast? I'm wondering how often the proc is up

    it procs off of any fire attack so your light attacks, flame enchants, and blockade will all proc it.

    Yeah, with a double fire set up, fire enchant and blockade you should hit 60% uptime just fine.

    wouldn't 60% uptime still be less total + dmg than warmaiden? .6 x 525 = 315, whereas war maiden just gives a flat + 400.

    Warmaiden doesn't get buffed by major sorcery so BSW is in fact 1.2x315=378 spelldamage. This is still lower than the 400 you get from warmaiden, but warmaiden doesn't buff light attacks (which are the highest source of dps if you run vMA inferno and you weave consistently) and it doesn't buff any other sources of elemental dmg like your blockade of fire, your enchants and your destro ultimate. This makes warmaiden completely useless in a pve setting, also I dislike it in pve. IMO warmaiden is one of the most overrated sets in game, it's actually total garbage.

    You do have other (non trial) options instead of BSW however. Scathing mage might perform really well too, especially if you're using crushing shock for vAS for example (since 3 direct dmg procs in one cast) and julianos may have a marginally better 5 piece depending on your BSW uptime. With summerset you could try and combine Mechanical Acuity and Julianos, since well have access to jewelry crafting.

    Hope this helps. :)

    Edited by Ectheliontnacil on May 11, 2018 10:12AM
  • laksikus
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    SJD_Phoenix wrote: »
    Darlon wrote: »
    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Datthaw wrote: »
    Warmaiden is pretty solid run that with juli and kena

    yeah i thought about that, but it doesn't affect a lot of
    Runefang wrote: »
    Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »
    MrDenimChicken wrote: »
    Camb0Sl1ce wrote: »
    Burning spellweave acuity and 2 piece kena is pretty solid

    does burning spellweave proc apply to any tic with destro fire blockade? or just after first cast? I'm wondering how often the proc is up

    it procs off of any fire attack so your light attacks, flame enchants, and blockade will all proc it.

    Yeah, with a double fire set up, fire enchant and blockade you should hit 60% uptime just fine.

    wouldn't 60% uptime still be less total + dmg than warmaiden? .6 x 525 = 315, whereas war maiden just gives a flat + 400.

    War maiden only gives +400 to magic damage abilities though, so it will have zero effect on your fire/elemental damage (wall of elements, fire enchant, etc etc)

    BSW will also be affected by Major Sorcery whereas War Maidens won’t.

    Stop spreading wrong infos.
    War maiden, sun and all the other sets do get affected by major sorcery
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