Nightblade Bowman n00b

IK0Nv2 · May 2018

Hello guys.

So today I was trying to fight in Cyrodiil but I gave up. 1k crit my damage vs 4k -7k dmg which I received. Like every time. Why the hell Im doing wrong?
Im playing as Argonian Nightblade Bowman lvl 50 (185 champion).

Here you have my stats:

And how my gear looks like. Pretty similar items in terms of stats. Most of them are boosting mundus stone which gives crit damage. I have bow without penetration bonus so yeah, I need to change it as soon as I finish woodworking.

I know that probably this isnt first topic like this but I havent found any answer which would satisfy my. And yes I checked some builds but honestly I dont think that changing my "night mother" set into "marksman" set would make such a huge difference. Or would it?

Please tell me what the hell am I missing?

Regards, Ikon.

BohnT · May 2018

1. You still have very low CP that is a huge damage and stat loss. Also i guess your CP allocation might be optimal.
2. Marksman/ hawk eye are a huge damage increase, spriggan is also much better than NMG, it's a bad set for snipe builds it just doesn't work.
3. Somethings about your build:
- you need to put all points into stamina for max damage
- you need to put 3 weapon damage glyphs on your jewelry
- easy to get gear (10-20k) 5pc marksman + 5pc hawk eye or spriggan + one of those sets. You want a nirnhorned bow (if you can get it via transmutation) if you can't get one use an infused one with disease or poison enchant.
Then you need to use health + stamina food or health + mag+ stam food
For your blue CP: put 41 points into master at arms, 27 into mighty, and the rest into precise strikes until you get more then you start putting them into master at arms, precise strikes and penetration with this rate 1-1-3 (3 into penetration).
Then you want a 2h on your backbar to have access to rally (major brutality and a good heal)

Your bar setup:
Frontbar (bow): cloak, poison injection, vigor, lethal arrow, draining shot/fear Ultimate: Ballista/ flawless dawnbreaker
Backbar (2h): relentless focus, shuffle, piercing mark, rally, shuffle, flex slot Ultimate: use whatever you like

This isn't optimised but it will be enough until you get better with the game and have bigger insight on the whole game and builds etc.

IK0Nv2 · May 2018

Wow. Looks like I would need to spend a lot of gold.

Thats what I hoped for. Clear answer. Thank you A LOT mate.

BohnT · May 2018

IK0Nv2 wrote: »

Wow. Looks like I would need to spend a lot of gold.

Thats what I hoped for. Clear answer. Thank you A LOT mate.

I guess you can get everything for ~30k if you find cheap prices.
In the long run you'll have to spend some more money for Gold bow (you want to have that as fast as possible)
and Gold glyphs on jewelry and weapons (no need to rush here purple is fine)
Your gear can be full purple just try to get your bow to Gold as it's a huge damage increase

IK0Nv2 · May 2018

I want to lvlup my woodworking anyway so Ill make the bow myself (for beginning at least).
Yeah it deals like 200 - 300 more damage.
But hell, at least I know what to do.

ShadowMonarch · May 2018

1. Play in no cp campaign or BG's, you will be a wet noodle compared to high cp players.I literally cannot stress this enough, unless you just build full tank to be annoying you are going to get ran over and plowed under with that low of CP.

2. Drop those points out of health, load them into your stamina. You want that stat as high as possible, it effects your damage, how many times you can roll, how many abilitys you can cast before your done, ect ect, you want a big stamina pool. Having 20k stamina ain't gonna cut it for a newer player that isn't experienced. You are going to also want a lot higher stamina recovery.

3. Upgrade your weapons to gold, its a pain and can be expensive for newer players but it makes a TON of difference.

4. Put stamina enchants on your armor.

5. Food buffs, HUGE DEAL! Get some tri stat foods or some foods to boost your health+stam+stam regen ect.

6. You are a Argonian, not the best race but it does have its advantage! (I myself am a Argonian) You are going to want to get some Tri-Pots. They are potions that give you back Health, magika, and stamina. Around 9.6k-Health, and 7.5k-Magika and Stamina. With Argonian anytime you drink a potion you get back a extra 4620 Health/magika/stamina on top of what the potion gives. So If your going to roll A Argonian and miss out on all the great passives from other races you should really take advantage of the potions to make the most of it!

IK0Nv2 · May 2018

ShadowMonarch wrote: »

1. Play in no cp campaign or BG's, you will be a wet noodle compared to high cp players.I literally cannot stress this enough, unless you just build full tank to be annoying you are going to get ran over and plowed under with that low of CP.

2. Drop those points out of health, load them into your stamina. You want that stat as high as possible, it effects your damage, how many times you can roll, how many abilitys you can cast before your done, ect ect, you want a big stamina pool. Having 20k stamina ain't gonna cut it for a newer player that isn't experienced. You are going to also want a lot higher stamina recovery.

3. Upgrade your weapons to gold, its a pain and can be expensive for newer players but it makes a TON of difference.

4. Put stamina enchants on your armor.

5. Food buffs, HUGE DEAL! Get some tri stat foods or some foods to boost your health+stam+stam regen ect.

6. You are a Argonian, not the best race but it does have its advantage! (I myself am a Argonian) You are going to want to get some Tri-Pots. They are potions that give you back Health, magika, and stamina. Around 9.6k-Health, and 7.5k-Magika and Stamina. With Argonian anytime you drink a potion you get back a extra 4620 Health/magika/stamina on top of what the potion gives. So If your going to roll A Argonian and miss out on all the great passives from other races you should really take advantage of the potions to make the most of it!

1. I know at least that. I have never played cyrodiil with CP. I knew it would be suicide.

2. Yeah, I tried to put points to somewhat balance my character (like in diablo 2). Aint know how it worked here.

3. Good thing I was collecting parts to upgrade armor and bow.

4. This I already got. Well, mostly at least.

5. Yeah I really neglected alchemy which was a huge mistake as I can see.

Thats REALLY helpful. Thanks a lot mate.

edit:
After putting all my attributes points in stamina and changing my bow (gold marksman) FINALLY Im dealing crits up to 4k. Now we only have to take back Bruma and buy some hawk's eye stuff. Thanks again for help guys.

agrr70 · May 2018

Check this if you wanna go full Bow,I use it and it reks.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/381412/sniper-stamina-nightblade-pvp-build-clockwork-city-patch/p1

IK0Nv2 · May 2018

agrr70 wrote: »

Check this if you wanna go full Bow,I use it and it reks.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/381412/sniper-stamina-nightblade-pvp-build-clockwork-city-patch/p1

Yeah, I saw it but I needed more basic guide for n00bs.
But thanks for suggestion anyway.

IlCanis_LupuslI · May 2018

https://youtu.be/aK6UNc7Obpc

Disclaimer= this video was made with the intent to show how easy it is to get kills by just spamming snipes hitting people for 12-17k with the initial 1st shot and how much counterplay exists with lag and lethal arrow health desyncs. I'm saying this because despite the ironic title people hav problems getting the intent of the video. It also shows that even experienced players can get killed very effortlessly as soon as a bit of lag comes and they can't break free.
Fortunately zenimax has done the first step to nerd this stupid build by changing how empower works.
Thank you!

exeeter702 · May 2018

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/aK6UNc7Obpc

Disclaimer= this video was made with the intent to show how easy it is to get kills by just spamming snipes hitting people for 12-17k with the initial 1st shot and how much counterplay exists with lag and lethal arrow health desyncs. I'm saying this because despite the ironic title people hav problems getting the intent of the video. It also shows that even experienced players can get killed very effortlessly as soon as a bit of lag comes and they can't break free.
Fortunately zenimax has done the first step to nerd this stupid build by changing how empower works.
Thank you!

Well... you can get serious damage with the asylum bow and still play from stealth and remain mobile. But yeah magelight snipe ganks wont be a thing anymore.

IK0Nv2 · May 2018

Mangeli200194 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/aK6UNc7Obpc

Disclaimer= this video was made with the intent to show how easy it is to get kills by just spamming snipes hitting people for 12-17k with the initial 1st shot and how much counterplay exists with lag and lethal arrow health desyncs. I'm saying this because despite the ironic title people hav problems getting the intent of the video. It also shows that even experienced players can get killed very effortlessly as soon as a bit of lag comes and they can't break free.
Fortunately zenimax has done the first step to nerd this stupid build by changing how empower works.
Thank you!

Wow it looks OP as hell. But anyway it gives me some ideas.
Surprisingly nice music tho.